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    Game Tickets ????????

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    Demand for NFL it very strong...as an alternative...the pre-season game will have the best seats and lowest prices, its a great way to take the kids to an afternoon game until they are old enough to pitch-in and pay for regular season games...road games are not cheap either...I paid just under 200 for each ticket in Miami, upper deck...add fees, travel, etc...but its a special event, vacation, as well so that helps justify it....

    Is Josh becoming too commercialized?

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    yes

    he should be home watching film of the bengals game and the Jax road loss from last year then have a zoom call with Dorsey and McD everyday all before lunch

    then comes running, stretching and lifting

    Tofu for breakfast, protein shake for lunch and salads for dinner - ok to sneak in a Jello Puddin Pop if coach says so

    Before bed churn some butter, darn some socks and bible reading before evening prayers at 845 PM and lights out at 9 PM

    God bless one and all

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    What does our O-Line look like now?

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    58 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    I like the idea of using one of those 7ths on Vorhees

    Beane would not cuz he is 6 year senior at age 24.5 right now and that is a flag, guy we drafted may be short armed, but did play tackle for 3 years and is 2 years younger, Brugler (Beast) has our guy rated higher as well...

    RD 5, Pick 150: WR Justin Shorter, Florida

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    1 hour ago, Srw1525 said:

    He’s a reach. Has a history though of dropping balls. Time will tell.

    nope

     

    per Brugler and the Beast (extract from the Athletic)

     

    110 career reception with 6 drops - none this season - missed 3 games due to hamstring injury and opted-out of bowl game, all of which pissed the Florida fans off so that ain't right////

     

    Led team in receptions in 2022 (but not 2023)...yards per reception improved over each of his seasons...

     

    STRENGTHS: Impressive size/speed athlete … has the arm length that makes some offensive tackles jealous … linear speed to close cushion and force cornerbacks to respect his acceleration … dangerous in the deep third of the field … tracks the ball naturally and adjusts in flight to high-point the football … stabs with focus away from his body (only one registered drop over the 114 combined targets his junior and senior seasons) … ranked No. 2 in the SEC in yards per reception in 2022 (behind only his teammate Ryan Pearsall) … physical stature helps him overwhelm receivers as a blocker … has experience as a gunner on special teams.

     

    WEAKNESSES: Tightly wound, and some of the branches of his route tree are stiffer than others … leggy in and out of breaks, causing him to linger or round off his patterns … comes off the line tall and gives defenders a large target to press … doesn’t consistently use his body to shield or frame defenders downfield … has never been known as a YAC threat over his career … clear your schedule if trying to find forced missed tackles on his tape … disappointing career production and never reached 600 yards receiving in a single season in his five years in college.

     

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida, Shorter was the X receiver in head coach Billy Napier’s offense. One look at him and there is no mystery why he had more stars as a high school recruit than a clear-night sky, but he struggled to find his footing at Penn State and was more of a splashy weapon over his three years at Florida. Shorter has striking speed for his size and is at his best when he can stack coverage and create a vertical runway (75.9 percent of his 2022 catches resulted in a first down or touchdown). Though he provides a large strike zone for his quarterback, his contested catch success should be higher with his size advantage. Overall, Shorter is a one-speed runner with predictable route running, but his height/weight/speed mix is uncommon, and his ball-winning potential will tantalize NFL teams. His fit as a back-end-of-the-roster receiver makes him worth the risk

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    Kincaid - Joe B and D Brugler Extracts

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    extracts from the Athletic:

     

    Joe B - Points out this age, 23.5, which is about a year-older than the average first-round age for Bills under Beane, will be 28 at end of Knox contract...

     

    Dane Brugler - extract from The Beast (downloaded to subscribers)...note  - youngest of 3 - mom would not let him play football, but played several other sports, led AAU team to national championship, picked-up football as senior in HS, played WR.

     

    STRENGTHS: Long, loose athlete with an adequate frame … uses lateral agility and flexible shoulders to quickly release off the line and accelerates into his routes … outstanding focus to isolate the football and catch the ball cleanly … comfortable adjusting mid-air and expanding his catch radius, showing unwavering trust in his ball skills … catches well in stride and stays balanced through contact (eight catches of 25-plus yards in 2022) … quickly collects himself to force overpursuit or make the first man miss (one of only three FBS tight ends with 16-plus forced missed tackles in 2022) … his dynamic speed cuts out of breaks creates interference/holding calls for the defense … willing and functional run blocker … shows the play speed to fit, hook and seal on cross-formation blocks … received positive character feedback from his coaches and was a member of Utah’s leadership council … had a career performance versus USC in 2022 with 16 receptions (on 16 targets) and 234 yards – his 16 catches was the most by an FBS player in 2022 … only Georgia’s Brock Bowers had more catches and receiving yards in 2022 among FBS tight ends.

     

    WEAKNESSES: Slender frame for the position and doesn’t have desired bulk … must continue developing his core strength … doesn’t have a strong blocking base and finds himself upright and off-balance … reaches his landmarks, but his body angles are inconsistent when working up a level or pulling on perimeter runs … messy pass-pro mechanics, often overextending, dropping his eyes and losing control … penalized four times as a senior (three false starts, one holding) … will round off his routes and lean into breaks, telegraphing his intentions … missed time as a senior because of multiple injuries, including a shoulder (October 2022) and thoracic injury (November 2022), which also sidelined him for the Senior Bowl and combine.

    Your one, and only one, draft hot take?

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    weak draft class, hoping a quality WR drops (unlikely) or Branch (S) (again unlikely)

    trying to trade up would only work to get ahead of Balt or NYG if they have a first round grade WR available

    Would love to trade pick 27 to the Lions for both of their second round picks (48 and 55) giving us 3 picks (59 is our own)

     

    What Buffalo Bills draft choice surprised you the most on draft day?

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    70s - Patulski, Dokes,Gant - it was the best of times, sex, drugs and rock-n-roll, it was the worst of times on the field

    80s - Tuttle, Booker Moore - when Knox left so did the winning until Polian 

    90 - Williams James (he of the flame retarndant jersey), Flowers - Butler kept the boat afloat and the cigarettes lit

    00s - Mcargo, Maybn - after Butler left and broke his heart, old man Wilson did not know and trust anyone without gray hair: Levy, Donahoe, Nix

    10s - EJ , Sammy - Whaley

    Beane Era - not Tre, but Josh, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau, Elam - I dont see a bust, but Elam was a reach based on need

     

    Beane - mentioned 3rd comp pick

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    15 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

     

    Spector is slow?

     

    You sure about that?

     

     

    this is from last years draft review - the Beast by Dane Brugler from the Athletic...

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    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Clemson, Spector played weakside linebacker in former defensive coordinator Brent Venables’ scheme. Spector was an afterthought as a safety in the Tigers’ 2017 recruiting class before moving to linebacker and steadily working his way up the depth chart, averaging 6.8 tackles per game over the past two seasons. Spector is a balanced athlete who is comfortable in space and breaks down well on the move to square up ball carriers. Though tough and decisive, he needs to be more patient with his key-and-react and will struggle to consistently shed blocks near the line of scrimmage. Overall, Spector has some safety-linebacker tweener traits, which hurts his potential NFL ceiling, but he is instinctive and athletic, which can keep him earning an NFL paycheck as a backup and special teamer.

     

    Considering what Edmunds did and did not do as a first-rounder....I dont see a play-maker (ceiling) or a play-stopper (floor) here ?  Do you ?  

    To your point, the 4.6/40  is not too bad, its average at best, but like I said he does not check enough boxes for me to be a starter...

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Beane - mentioned 3rd comp pick

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    Today, as part of the owner meetings in Pho Ariz, Beane ahd a Q&A session with the media replayed just after 5 PM today on WGR radio...he was specifically asked about the thrid round comp pick potentially coming back next season in return for Edmunds big contract elsewhere...he replied that it does matter and that after the "large" Harty FA signing all of the FA adds have been under 2M including todays safety from the Rams....then he directly answered the question about the open Mike position with the usual in-house candidates...we like Dodson , Spector is staying and training in Buffalo, Bernard backed-up Milano last season...will get a look.

     

    So expect to fill that position with a cut candidate, trade, or another draft (early ?) to keep that 3rd rounder 2024 draft...oh and think about how they used 18M (edmunds) on several roster adds...pretty much every position but MLB.

     

    That being the case, maybe Milano or Hyde or Poyer call the D signals next season instead of the effing new guy (Mike) ???

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    Great breakdown of McGovern and Harty (The Athletic; paywalled)

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    1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:

    Anyone care to do a summary or share a couple salient points for those of us who don't subscribe?

    An athletic subscription can be had cheaper than you think...and the content is darn good...signed a cheap bass-turd

     

    McGovern has deceptive size and arm length. Usually with guards, you see them be a little shorter than a typical lineman with smaller arms. But McGovern is huge comparatively. He has a 6-foot-5 frame with over 34-inch-long arms, a length acceptable by offensive tackle standards. And on the film, you can see how the height and arm length impact his game positively as a pass blocker immediately. The long arms help catch the defender even if they worm free, and he combines that with quick feet to put together a lot of controlled pass-blocking reps.

    But even more impressive is how he maintains that control even after losing at the beginning of the rep. McGovern uses his long frame to get wide and establish a balanced base, combining a perfect blend of maintaining enough balance to hold his ground while not extending his legs too wide to throw himself off balance. Even if he gets bull-rushed and knocked back by a defensive tackle, McGovern’s recovery is excellent, and he appears to be at his best working backward. 

     

    Harty is a speed merchant. GM Brandon Beane wasn’t exaggerating when he said, “When you just turn on the tape, you can feel speed.” That quickness will force a lot of cornerbacks into playing it safe. Because getting beaten over the top can lead to lost starting roles, Harty gets several opportunities against off-coverage. When they do, his speed and long-ball potential freezes defenders on underneath routes. He generally doesn’t have to worry about deception in his breakdown and can instead do a quick break to his route destination. But the reason he gets those opportunities is because of the long speed. 

     

     

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    Mike Clay's roster talent evaluation all 32 teams ranked

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    interesting and insightful...Texans who are the lowest graded overall actuially have 3 units on offense scoring higher than the Bills,  which indicates what ???  we have better coaching and a QB that makes up for the deificiencies apparenlty...also glaring issue - no special teams  Approx 10% of the game is deveoted to special teams - needs consideration as well and likely elevates Bills score slightly.

     

    I do agree that Miami (due to vet acquisitions) and the Jets (drafting) have rapidly improved their rosters and have closed the gap between to the point of expecting close,competetive games...not a bad thing from the entertainment perspective as most where thrilling and dramtatic

     

    Point of emphasis - Tua was asked toughest place to play...answer:  Buffalo...electric

    Bills sign Damien Harris

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    3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

    Honestly don’t care for this.
     

    Why did we need strictly a runner - he offers nothing in the passing game.  
     

    Against an Allen offense you should be worried about every weapon on the field. 

    still have to have a running game presence in this passing era; Philly, SF, Cin, and to a lesser extent KC and Mia....the mix of a power, receptions and speed...plus Lewis fumbles are not a problem compated to Motor...

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