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  1. 4 hours ago, Estro said:

    What they should do is trade down out of the 1st and pick up a 2nd and 3rd for moving down 12 or so spots.

     

    Then use those multiple 4ths and 5th to moves around in rounds 2 and 3 and come away with 5 picks between selection 40-120.

    trading back from pick 28 to say 40 (second round) the gain is 160 points which is third round pick 86 (2/3 of down the third round)  our two 4ths put together equal a move up to near the 4 th round but still in the fourth round and adding the fifth to that does not move that much either...its that missing third rounder that is now a fourth that hurts as that differnece is  72 points...those points alone would enable a move from pick 28 to 24; or those 72 points alone is valued at pick 111a  mid-4th rounder

     

    https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=nfl+draft+pick+value+chart&fr=mcafee&type=E210US739G0&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.draftblaster.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Ftrade-value-chart.jpg%3Fresize%3D856%2C915#id=6&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.draftblaster.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Ftrade-value-chart.jpg%3Fresize%3D856%2C915&action=click 

  2. hoping for the best outcome which would be a run of qbs like Penix Jr (wash) and JJM (Mich) and OL and edge studs push the second tier of WRs further down the first round...but that creates a pent-up demand for WRs and likely more trade-down competition plus I dont want KC to get their hands on a WR in the first-round as well and they are not a trade partner (see Mahomes, Patrick).

     

    co-related...

     

    This AM WGR mentioned that Beane is the only GM not to take a WR within the first 100 picks of his draft and that he has taken the most RBs within the first 100 as well (Singletray, Moss, Cook)...the WR avoidance undestandable because of Gabe Davis most likely as Beano wasnt about to use a high pick to be a 3rd stringer....this is the year and damn we needed that 3rd round comp pick...

     

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  3. 5 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

    Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs.

    a pro athlete who weighs 295 could put on 10-12pounds easily-healthily over the course of 30 days by drinking a gallon of milk (mixed with protein after a workouts) after 6 PM every nite...kids do this at my gym every summer to bulk up for football season at the high school and college level...btw how much does Ed Oliver weigh, quickness counts as well, no ?

  4. 22 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said:

    "Before his tenure at Miami, Addae won a national title on the staff at Georgia. He also served as the co-defensive coordinator at West Virginia and had earlier stops at Minnesota, Arizona and Cincinnati."

     

    Great hire. My guess is we'll have a lot of depth pieces taken later in the draft at DB, and this is the perfect guy to help coach them up. Also would be great if it propelled Elam but who knows.

     

    1, a surprise - John Butler vet coach was let go - he posted his accomplishments on social media - weird vibe all around- reading into,,,I should be the DC and if not do I really wanna be here...

    2, Kair Elam - social media post about Butler - "No comment"...source WGR radio this morning

  5. 8 hours ago, mannc said:

    As a HS senior, Curry was the top recruit in the country in both basketball and football, so there’s that…

    true dat...he is from Hamptn-VA Beach area and was a top regional recruit, originally leaning to staying in state to attend UVA, but he said his dream school was always Carolina, not just spurning a Virigna school but going to an ACC rival pissed a lot of people off....he likley went to play basketnall as well:

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/men/rsci-recruit-rankings-1998.html

     

    even tho he did not pan-out to be a star he did make the NFL and hung-around for several season, returning kicks amongst receiving duties...I guess he comes from the Sean Payton-Drew Brees coaching tree

     

    Brady, who went to a VA school as well (W&M) and played reciever, likely hired someone who helped him break into the NFL as well; albeit with some credentials.

     

    Best case sceanrio:  suddenly younger coaches in their 30s are getting HC jobs so if Bills have a great offensive season and Brady gets HC, Curry could become OC...if Josh approves...

  6. 4 hours ago, Process said:

    This could actually be a sign they are about to promote Babich

    I hope they do as Babich has interviewed with the Giants and now Dolphins about their open DC positions...as vet DCs Martindale and Fagio got their walking papers after 2 and 1 year respectively)...

  7. some surprise plays are needed...apparently so are acting lessons...

     

    over the decafes...fake punts, screen passes (other than Chan Gailey era) and draw plays have rarely been executed well in Bills history

    I give Daboll credit for running the most trick plays and tackle eligible passes in team history.

     

    Longest gain from scrimmage yesterday for Bills was 15 yards...chiefs has several - 8 I believe


    how about a bomb or two...not just a show-me-one.... with a max protect blocking scheme.

     

  8. no effing way...he ran the show here in DC...his defense was embarassing to the point there were in-season firings of his DC and DB coach after the Cowboys embarassed them on national TV over thanksgiving day...further the Dolphins toyed with them in the penultimate game of this past season and it was a mis-match all game trying to cope with the Dolphins offense.

     

    Sweat and Young - first round D picks - underperfomed and were dumped in trades bringing back some picks for the rebuild which managment was not going to let him touch.

     

    Another recent-epic defensive blunder - 2023 first round he drafted under-sized Emmanuel Forbes - 6-1 - 166 pounds when he could have drafted Christian Gonzalez who was taken with next pick by the Pats...Forbes had 5 starts - 411 snaps - no PBU - 1 pick -his lite build and tackling ability are highly questionable esp for the 16th overall pick.

     

    get to the Super Bowl once and you are a made man...he game has passed him by......I think his time has come...

      

  9. Just like his father...Hochuli is over-effficious  - I think the NFL  held him out of the recent Philly-TB playoff game because Phil is undefeated when he and his crew call their games..that Phil- Bills game added to that streak apparently.

     

    That last Blls game that his crew officiated - there was that first -half non-call of a horse-collar sack-tackle on Josh - one of my friends says that says that

    horse-collar sack tackle is legal under those conditions, so its a possible exception the normal horse-collar rule...but...how do you consistnelty protect the QB under this rule especially when several other rules exist where it bsically makes touching the QA a foul on the D ?

     

    I believe these playoff ref crews are all-star crews pulled together based on season-long reviews...so the Hoculei crew willitslef  not be working the game which may be the best news of all...

     

    Go bills..get well soon to all our guys who are hurting...mount-up Mafia...and...Lets...Go...Buffalo

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  10. Bless me Mafia brethern for I have sinned...

    Thought about in May, set aside money in June and bought two tickets for this game last July...excited-hopeful

    Tried to make it work in Sept and Oct but for various reasons sold them in Nov for a profit - tried-frustrated

    Took the money and bought tires for my SUV in Dec for that personal Xmas thingy and a trip to NYC-MSG-Phish - the rebound

    Now that its Jan I stand by the decision, next season I will double down for that missed road trip, or maybe a home playoff game this season - sobering regret

    I ask for your forgiveness amidst the temporal punishment of your deserved flaming...being a sadist-masochist comes with decades of being a Bills fan

     

    However-whatever I will not turn in my tear-beer stained membership card....hoping for the best ...expecting the worst...cuz thats what life as Bills fan is with 95% probability to make the playoffs..its the 5% percent that is so Billsy

  11. 1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

    I think there are decent odds that we do that. Because of the trade, Douglas' last year of his contract is entirely non-guaranteed. The Bills have excellent leverage to actually decrease his cap hit next year by signing him to an extension.

    I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year.

    much luv for Trey and I dont want to disagree

     

    but..but..but...look at our cap next season, there has to be cuts and Trey could be on...as well do plan to play him at with his big cap at age 29 with achilles recovery over Benford ?  Elam and Jackson could be the backups...Treys cap does not fit him as backup IMHO

  12. Kelce most times is not the first option, he seems to float-delay-read-react to find the open space in the zone cleared by the other route runners with more speed..how do you defend.. key plays during the 13 seconds fiasco were exactly done this way...and we keep seeing due to Mcd; achiiles heel of dont get beat with the quick-deep strike where safeties play in the next area code 

  13. 16 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    I think he's back in 2024.

    Hate to burst your bubble.

    guaran-freaking-teed:

     

    1. conservative McD + conservtive Pegula = 1 more year of mutual admiration

     

    2. justifiication - McD gets the benefit of the doubt based on legacy culture change of being a "winner" plus major injuries to the D...makes usual     1-2 sacrificial staff changes..invites Frazier back as consultant...

     

    3. fanbase has pretty much fired McD - had 1 foot in the grave after the epic fail of 13 seconds - will be interesting to see if Diggs goes off during end-of-season review-interview and issues ultimatum...keep him or me..but not both.

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  14. a very good question, I dont think the OC gets canned after a win, but the guy was a dead man walking so it was just a matter of time...

     

    Its fair to say that coach McD has lost the fanabase as he already had one foot in the grave after the epic 13 seconds fiasco...but the bigger issue is...has he lost the

    locker-room...

     

    as well...come end of season I dont want Diggs saying...him or me.

     

     

  15. 6 hours ago, Antonio said:

    It is very sad when my friends stop making fun of me and the Bills and really start to feel bad.

    The bullying stops, the jokes are no longer there, once this season a freind of mine told me he rather have the Bills win against his team ´cause he didn't want me to feel numb again.

     

    I don´t want to feel this way, I want to enjoy the season its ups and downs, but lately, it has been a freefall. 

     

    I truly want to be a Bills fan for life, but this is too much: 4 SBs, Music City, 13 seconds, 12 man. What ealse is there tu endure???

    We need the BILLS to start giving back.

    life lesson..if you cant love someone or something at their worst, you dont deserve them or it at their best... I love my team and always will despite moving away from WNY decades ago...yeah this sucks and they just make it hard sometimes..besides who else ya gonna root for....no matter...it wont be the same

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  16. 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    Knox is the epitome of "jack of all trades- master of none"

     

    He does everything that a typical starting TE should be able to do. The biggest problem is he's average in all aspects but paid like a top guy at the position. 

     

    The one thing he does have is the ability for those "angry runs" that get some people pulling for him more. He's quite literally the Gabe Davis of TEs.

    he is good at pounding beers with Josh and his Bills buddies at Sabres games in Josh suite

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  17. 4 hours ago, Mopreme said:

    Didn’t chase young go for a 3rd? Former top 3 pick and considered franchise guy. I like the player the Bills got but giving up such a high pick seems like a lot? My guess is that there was competition.

    well hell yeah were chasing Miami and Jaz and Balt is improved and our safeties are older-slower and as far as corners go..the best is seriously hurt - again - a 6th rounder beats out a first rounder and the rest are backups one of which had to start, one is 35 and out of football for over a year...and oh yeah Dean Marlowe is not available 

  18. pocket-passer Josh versus X-factor Josh, both have their pros and cons...but face it...a healthy, upright Josh is what we need now and long-term...sure he can get hurt in the pocket, but we got zero chance to win a game, make the playoffs without him, so being careful is OK...provided:

     

    some offensive ideas - Gabe Davis says we need to simplify - so run a hurry-up offense for a few series to catch the d off-balance, get Harty and speed more involved - on some jet sweeps or tunnel screens or quck slants to him or anyone for crying out loud, Daboll would run a trick play once a game such as half-back option pass, tackle eligible catches a pass in red zone that sort of thing.

     

    Every season is different - The O is going to have to score more points to win games given the missing valuable D players...and the AFC East now has some good defenses esp Jets and Pats who we play twice.  

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