First Round Bust
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well said...I just wish a tribute banner to the Braves would be hung from our arena that pays homage to McAdoo, Randy Smith and Coach Jack Ramsey...there are fond memories of fanastic games against the Lakers and Celtics in the old Aud, with Van Miller doing PxP on Tues and Sat nites, then doing post-game, the hustling back to WBEN TV studio to do his 11 PM sports segment..my personal highlight was a DH with the Globetrotters (with Meadlowlark Lemon and Curly Neal) going first then the Braves beating the Pistons and Buffalo Bob Lanier with several of my close childhood friends totally loving it...we also played basketball in suburban Buffalo all winter ling, dribbling the ball no higher than our knee due to the cold and snow and playing at nite under flood-lights, if we werent playing hockey on frozen ponds or tackle football in the snowy street...mom put newspapers on the kitchen floor so we could eat our bologna sandwhiches and kraft macaroni and cheese without taking our boots or skates off...
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59 minutes ago, stinky finger said:
Two of my favorite players from this era were centers.
Mr. Otto and Mick Tingelhoff.
Their respective teams were prominent and televised and vividly remember their trading cards.
Good old days.
RIP
the Vikes were great in the 70s...under coach Bud Grant..outdoor Metropolitan Stadium in the cold was its own version of frozen tundra..the pre-Tarkenton days of Joe Kapp (another CFL icon like Grant) throwing to Gene Washington handing to Dave Osborne and Bill Brown as RBs behind Tingelhoff and Ron Yary..and the D-line..purple people eaters...was the best in the biz - Page-Eller-Marshall-Larsen-Sutherland..with Dennis Winston at LB and Paul Krause (iNFL all-time nterceptions leader)
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VincTr00.htm - looking for a Bill..scroll down to 51 - Troy Vincent..his last 2 washed-up years with the Bills had 5 picks...sigh...
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1 hour ago, Neo said:
Peter Puck!
one way to get my non-sportsfan sister to allow me to watch hockey on the family Maganvox parlor TV was to tell her that Peter Puck was going to be on during the intermission...it was between periods 1-2 and she would think it was every intermission...it worked for awhile
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from the daze of my misspent youth...Sundays...1970s football...men like Otto layed the foundation for this game...
1 PM games: watching Joe Namath play in crappy Shea Stdium which looked like a high school field; bad Bills teams with OJ loose over and over....or you could watch the NFC games which in Buffalo featured the Wash Redskins and NYG games before Dallas became "Americas Team"
4 PM: teams like like the Chiefs, Chargers with that passing game, the thug Raiders playing close games over and over with George Blanda kicking game-winning field goals while playing QB at age 40+...games called by grizzled vets like Curt Gowdy and Charlie Jones and the smooth Dick Enbeg (remember Sport Challenge ?) and color analysts no one ever heard of before...
Then on to the Wonderful World of Disney amd Mutual of Omaha's Wlld Kingdo...then Sunday nite Sabre home games with Gil and the French Connection...over and over...year after year...
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good stats and chat...I look at this a bit differently without the benefit of the Diggs, Davis skill-set
1. Our O got too predictable last mid-season with Diggs the alpha option which drew the best defender, rolling double coverage, etc - add his loss of speed, the pattern predictability etc...interesting to see the Brady updated playbook and weekly gameplan as there seems to be more diversity (other than the go patterns ?) and more focus on shorter throws into single coverage for our bigger WRs to win a catch in tight coverage and break tackles against smaller corners, blocking is a must to help the run game, so lets see the route trees, spacing and comfort levels...I dont expect jet sweeps, but WR screens to a bigger-body WR makes sense
2. As well how does Josh adapt to this as far as reads and ball placements - despite the top arm in the game, his long ball throws have been erratic, compare to Stroud who places soft loft-air-touch on his long throws...quicker releases-throws from Josh to beat the rush and blitz is good thing.
Injuries, depth and special teams - some of these guys will be kept or promoted for that over the course of the long season
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14 hours ago, Another Fan said:
The truth hurts
Q. why is Brady interested in an ownership stake in the Raiders
A. I am tired of owning the Colts and Bills...
now has 8 rings since Giselle gave her back to him
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3 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said:
It's a good point, but I think that's why most swallowed the Diggs trade as necessary medicine.
But to not double-down in the draft with such available talent, have many scratching their heads
double down...best I can tell no position on the team will carry two rookies on the active roster, that is keeper draft choices not exposed to being cut-waved...you want one on the active roster and PS ? then I think we can find somethug come the Sept big cut, serves the same purpose but saves draft capital ?
More concerned with who is going to return kicks and punts, not sure that specialist is on the roster and I dont think they trust a rook to do that.
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2 hours ago, Big Turk said:
You mean Chase Claypool?
he meant Clay Chasepool perhaps...
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8 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Rarely discussed but I think the league would be better if RGIII had made it. He’s a really interesting dude.
RG3 parents are retired Army enlisted...guy had a bum career due in part to significant inuries in college and pro...that which does not kill us makes us stronger
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18 hours ago, MJS said:
From what I can gather, he wasn't always put in positions to succeed there. They were running screens with him. Like, what? Also throwing prayers up to him when double or triple covered or when the defender has established leverage. There were consistently under thrown balls to him, causing more contested catch situations than needed (and having to wait for a ball and the defender getting back in the play makes it harder for a receiver than just a normal 50/50 ball).
I actually think he might do much better in the pros with a much better QB throwing to him and not being the focal point of the offense. Of course, he'll also be going up against better talent, but I expect he will be used more appropriately than he was in college.
Well yeah, why was he running go routes all the time? I think he was mismanaged in college. They had him doing everything, including a lot of things that played to his weaknesses, not strengths.
route trees are usually limited in college to go, curls and post routes...I was surprised by this pick but considering nobody moved-up to get the top 3-4 WRs the cost must have been extremely plus the Bills had their choices or the rest of the pack of receivers...he does have strenghts - catch radius, good hands, will win jump/contested balls and this is something Diggs was in decline....its still early, there will be veteran cuts and we get more cap space come June to sign picks and possibly add a vet receiver that we can afford such as:
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4 hours ago, Estro said:
What they should do is trade down out of the 1st and pick up a 2nd and 3rd for moving down 12 or so spots.
Then use those multiple 4ths and 5th to moves around in rounds 2 and 3 and come away with 5 picks between selection 40-120.
trading back from pick 28 to say 40 (second round) the gain is 160 points which is third round pick 86 (2/3 of down the third round) our two 4ths put together equal a move up to near the 4 th round but still in the fourth round and adding the fifth to that does not move that much either...its that missing third rounder that is now a fourth that hurts as that differnece is 72 points...those points alone would enable a move from pick 28 to 24; or those 72 points alone is valued at pick 111a mid-4th rounder
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hoping for the best outcome which would be a run of qbs like Penix Jr (wash) and JJM (Mich) and OL and edge studs push the second tier of WRs further down the first round...but that creates a pent-up demand for WRs and likely more trade-down competition plus I dont want KC to get their hands on a WR in the first-round as well and they are not a trade partner (see Mahomes, Patrick).
co-related...
This AM WGR mentioned that Beane is the only GM not to take a WR within the first 100 picks of his draft and that he has taken the most RBs within the first 100 as well (Singletray, Moss, Cook)...the WR avoidance undestandable because of Gabe Davis most likely as Beano wasnt about to use a high pick to be a 3rd stringer....this is the year and damn we needed that 3rd round comp pick...
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5 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:
Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs.
a pro athlete who weighs 295 could put on 10-12pounds easily-healthily over the course of 30 days by drinking a gallon of milk (mixed with protein after a workouts) after 6 PM every nite...kids do this at my gym every summer to bulk up for football season at the high school and college level...btw how much does Ed Oliver weigh, quickness counts as well, no ?
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22 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said:
"Before his tenure at Miami, Addae won a national title on the staff at Georgia. He also served as the co-defensive coordinator at West Virginia and had earlier stops at Minnesota, Arizona and Cincinnati."
Great hire. My guess is we'll have a lot of depth pieces taken later in the draft at DB, and this is the perfect guy to help coach them up. Also would be great if it propelled Elam but who knows.
1, a surprise - John Butler vet coach was let go - he posted his accomplishments on social media - weird vibe all around- reading into,,,I should be the DC and if not do I really wanna be here...
2, Kair Elam - social media post about Butler - "No comment"...source WGR radio this morning
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8 hours ago, mannc said:
As a HS senior, Curry was the top recruit in the country in both basketball and football, so there’s that…
true dat...he is from Hamptn-VA Beach area and was a top regional recruit, originally leaning to staying in state to attend UVA, but he said his dream school was always Carolina, not just spurning a Virigna school but going to an ACC rival pissed a lot of people off....he likley went to play basketnall as well:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/men/rsci-recruit-rankings-1998.html
even tho he did not pan-out to be a star he did make the NFL and hung-around for several season, returning kicks amongst receiving duties...I guess he comes from the Sean Payton-Drew Brees coaching tree
Brady, who went to a VA school as well (W&M) and played reciever, likely hired someone who helped him break into the NFL as well; albeit with some credentials.
Best case sceanrio: suddenly younger coaches in their 30s are getting HC jobs so if Bills have a great offensive season and Brady gets HC, Curry could become OC...if Josh approves...
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Happy for coach Frazier as he is good man...happier that he has moved on as his plannig-schemes and gameday decisions are old-stale and he owns some-most of the 13 seconds debacle which has wrecked the credibility of the head coach with the fanbase..
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4 hours ago, Process said:
This could actually be a sign they are about to promote Babich
I hope they do as Babich has interviewed with the Giants and now Dolphins about their open DC positions...as vet DCs Martindale and Fagio got their walking papers after 2 and 1 year respectively)...
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some surprise plays are needed...apparently so are acting lessons...
over the decafes...fake punts, screen passes (other than Chan Gailey era) and draw plays have rarely been executed well in Bills history
I give Daboll credit for running the most trick plays and tackle eligible passes in team history.
Longest gain from scrimmage yesterday for Bills was 15 yards...chiefs has several - 8 I believe
how about a bomb or two...not just a show-me-one.... with a max protect blocking scheme. -
Deep down...did you really expect anything else other than this torture ?
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3rd string linebackers give it up as vet D line underperforms
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no effing way...he ran the show here in DC...his defense was embarassing to the point there were in-season firings of his DC and DB coach after the Cowboys embarassed them on national TV over thanksgiving day...further the Dolphins toyed with them in the penultimate game of this past season and it was a mis-match all game trying to cope with the Dolphins offense.
Sweat and Young - first round D picks - underperfomed and were dumped in trades bringing back some picks for the rebuild which managment was not going to let him touch.
Another recent-epic defensive blunder - 2023 first round he drafted under-sized Emmanuel Forbes - 6-1 - 166 pounds when he could have drafted Christian Gonzalez who was taken with next pick by the Pats...Forbes had 5 starts - 411 snaps - no PBU - 1 pick -his lite build and tackling ability are highly questionable esp for the 16th overall pick.
get to the Super Bowl once and you are a made man...he game has passed him by......I think his time has come...
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Just like his father...Hochuli is over-effficious - I think the NFL held him out of the recent Philly-TB playoff game because Phil is undefeated when he and his crew call their games..that Phil- Bills game added to that streak apparently.
That last Blls game that his crew officiated - there was that first -half non-call of a horse-collar sack-tackle on Josh - one of my friends says that says that
horse-collar sack tackle is legal under those conditions, so its a possible exception the normal horse-collar rule...but...how do you consistnelty protect the QB under this rule especially when several other rules exist where it bsically makes touching the QA a foul on the D ?
I believe these playoff ref crews are all-star crews pulled together based on season-long reviews...so the Hoculei crew willitslef not be working the game which may be the best news of all...
Go bills..get well soon to all our guys who are hurting...mount-up Mafia...and...Lets...Go...Buffalo
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Bless me Mafia brethern for I have sinned...
Thought about in May, set aside money in June and bought two tickets for this game last July...excited-hopeful
Tried to make it work in Sept and Oct but for various reasons sold them in Nov for a profit - tried-frustrated
Took the money and bought tires for my SUV in Dec for that personal Xmas thingy and a trip to NYC-MSG-Phish - the rebound
Now that its Jan I stand by the decision, next season I will double down for that missed road trip, or maybe a home playoff game this season - sobering regret
I ask for your forgiveness amidst the temporal punishment of your deserved flaming...being a sadist-masochist comes with decades of being a Bills fan
However-whatever I will not turn in my tear-beer stained membership card....hoping for the best ...expecting the worst...cuz thats what life as Bills fan is with 95% probability to make the playoffs..its the 5% percent that is so Billsy
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1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
I think there are decent odds that we do that. Because of the trade, Douglas' last year of his contract is entirely non-guaranteed. The Bills have excellent leverage to actually decrease his cap hit next year by signing him to an extension.
I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year.
much luv for Trey and I dont want to disagree
but..but..but...look at our cap next season, there has to be cuts and Trey could be on...as well do plan to play him at with his big cap at age 29 with achilles recovery over Benford ? Elam and Jackson could be the backups...Treys cap does not fit him as backup IMHO
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Kelce most times is not the first option, he seems to float-delay-read-react to find the open space in the zone cleared by the other route runners with more speed..how do you defend.. key plays during the 13 seconds fiasco were exactly done this way...and we keep seeing due to Mcd; achiiles heel of dont get beat with the quick-deep strike where safeties play in the next area code
QOD: What NFL rules changes would you like to see?
in The Stadium Wall
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18 game schedule with 2 bye weeks and super bowl played during the Dead Presidents day holiday weekend (Sunday)
Players drafted during current season are exempt from being cut and can be placed on practice squad for entire year for development purposes without loss to other teams, protects-justifies the scouting and development process. If called-up from PS then can exposed to waivers and other teams, etc.
NFL sponsorhip of Punt Pass Kick kids compeition during spring and summer with events held before pre-season games which will have a day-long kids and family them and entertainment (NFL alumni, on-field activities, autographs, etc)
NFL sponsorship of a national flag football league at various age levels to include kids and adul league with ex-jocks-coaches running coaching seminars and coach clinics with championship games held during the weekend between conference championship game and super bowl.