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  1. 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I think Lawson (who I think was better than Kelsay). Epenesa will be a 6-8 sack guy that’s solid against the run. He has some position versatility as well because he can play the 3 technique. Shaq has that skill set too. 

    Epenesa will be better than Shaq out of the box hopefully, we don’t want to wait 4 years for him to figure out how to play DE. Not switching schemes should help.

  2. 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I think the safety is the best pick the Jets have made. I like Becton, think he is good but he is boom or bust. Zuniga flashy but inconsistent and I am not a Mims guy. One of the sloppiest technicians you will see. 

     

    Agree on Miami. Liked the Tua pick. Haven't loved what they have done since.

    The Jags have had the ugliest draft from top to bottom for me. Hate what they have done.

  3. 55 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

    Gunner I am sort of confused by the lack of excitement on your part. Guys we drafted may be "solid" but overall result is amazing.

     

    Epenesa was around 25 on most big boards, including yours. He is not Chase Young, but he was consensus late 1st/early 2nd round prospect for a reason. And we got him at 54. That is amazing result in my book. Overall tone of your assessment sounds like we drafted him at 33 or so. That would I call "solid".

     

    Moss I understand your reservations about playing style and how it fits Bills need, but I think you partly admitted you were wrong about how we can utilize Singletary. So I wouldn't stress what type of back he is and just be happy with his level of play.

     

    Overall, we had biggest needs at WR, DE and RB. We drafted and "drafted" Diggs, Epenesa and Moss. That sounds like a dream to me.

     

    Just to be clear this is not an attack on you I just would expect you to be more satisfied overall based on your own board :)

     

    Anyway, moving on to day 3, can you adjust your board for Bills and list your top 10-15 choices for us?

    It’s because Epenesa is just not a pop off the tape player in the way that some other players are. Same with Moss.

  4. 1 minute ago, CookieG said:

    Yeah well, ..there's Revis..and um...Deion Sanders and...um...maybe Patrick Peterson, but then...how good have the Cards been since he's been drafted?  (3 winning season out of 8).

     

    I don't know if you make it a rule that a DB is the cornerstone of your franchise when the two examples are from 20 and 30 years ago and are HOF'ers.

     

    Cleveland has done it a number of times...Joe Haden, Denzell Ward, Justin Gilbert and people are still waiting for them to turn it around.  And hell, both Haden and Ward are good.  But neither transformed the Browns.

     

    The Jets spent a better part of the Rex Ryan era using their top pick on a DB, and that was when they had Revis.  After initial success, they've been a bad, bad franchise.

     

    And of course..there's the droughty Bills.

     

    Not to mention that there is a pretty high bust factor.

     

    Dee Millner

    Justin Gilbert

    Mo Claiborne

    Eli Apple is going to be on his 3rd team since 2016, provided someone picks him up.

     

    Those are guys taken in the top 10 in just the past 8 years. I think there were only 8 taken in the top 10 during that time.

     

    Its about a 50% bust ratio.

     

    Its an important position..but wayyyyy overrated as the place to build a franchise

     

     

    You can play this game with every position. The Redskins just picked Young, do you think they win the Super Bowl in the next 3 years?

  5. 8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

    Yes, they were very important and each one a great pick (although in the modern game no running back seems to be that valuable).  I think jrober's argument about changing the fortunes of a franchise is a poor metric since in the modern game of football only a QB can have that kind of impact.  I think we can all agree that limiting your selection on draft day to only QBs in the top 5 is silly.

     

    - Von Miller is the first player I thought of due to his dominance in the Super Bowl and MVP award.  But the Bronco's success was largely due to Peyton Manning until their super bowl year when the defense led by Von and two strong CBs carried Manning's corpse to a title.  The Broncos aren't even a playoff team now.

    - Orlando Pace is a great player but that team was all about Warner, Martz, Faulk, Bruce, and Holt putting up crazy points.

    - Fitz is the man but without Warner or Palmer the Cards are bottom feeders and have been for much of his sterling career.

    - Bruce played with how many other hall of famers on both sides of the ball.  Its hard to credit any one player on the amazing team Polian assembled.

    - Earl is so far before my time I can't comment other than the game has changed and examples like OJ and Jim Brown do not have the same relevance in a pass happy league.

    - No one will ever forget how Jonathan Ogden kept Trent Dilfer clean while the Raven's juggernaut offense moved into field goal position.  Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, your man Haloti Ngata, CJ Mosely were the heart of all those Raven's teams. 

    Lol

  6. 2 minutes ago, Margarita said:

    let me guess you're bitter the Bills didnt draft Mahomes or Watson ...spilt milk matey

    More like I’m bitter than they drafted 1 QB in the first round after Losman flamed out until Allen. There’s mismanaging the QB position, then there’s 2 QB’s in 13 years under the longest playoff drought in sports.

     

    Did you become a Bills fan in 2018?

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