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You think it's a coincidence that trump insisted on it immediately after Elon went ballistic on X, and they threatened every member who voted for it? Yeah sure. How many things did Musk outright lie about? Wait until you see the final numbers of how much pork was actually cut from the bill, and we'll see if this was really about the pork. Want to guess the % of difference(i'd say 5% would be very generous)? The republicans who voted against it said it's pretty much the exact same bill. Nancy Mace was on Fox saying all they did was remove the procedural/implementation pages to make it look literally, physically smaller. That's how the republicans got their "win" today. Why was trump insisting the debt ceiling be included if they're cutting spending? Does that make an ounce of sense to you?

That was then this is now. So you're saying they blackmailed it back into this bill, or that they blackmailed it back out of the bill? As I recall the democrats were all set to pass it in the bill earlier this week, but somehow it got cut out in todays. You're telling me the tax and spend democrats are the ones who insisted this be cut from this one today?? That's a low intelligence poster if you think that's what happened, and it makes zero sense at all.

Right now in the House, there are 38 republicans and zero democrats who are concerned with spending. Iow, it doesn't stand a chance. Elon is already a sham. He stopped the bill to have the debt ceiling removal added to it. Why on God's green Earth would you need to remove the debt ceiling if you planned on making spending cuts. Completely illogical. It's like saying I'm sending out for new credit cards, so I can quit wasting money I don't have.

It didn't get passed. It was part of the pork the GQP removed. You guys live in an extremely strange alter reality. You're going to find out that the 'pork' cut from the bill was almost nonexistent. Johnson removed all the procedural pages from the bill to make it "look smaller". LOL Source: all the republicans who voted against it, including Nancy Mace.

Every single democrat voted for it. Must have really removed a ton of that democrat pork. 🤣

Willfull ignorance was a choice a large segment chose a while back.

Right and left are interchangeable depending on which TV channel you're watching. If you turn off the TV for a while, you'll soon realize that the answer was always ALL billionaires intertwined with your government was the problem.

I remember when people were smart enough to judge a crime by motive, and not by citizenship.

I'm not a democrat, but I can tell you if you cherry-pick your sides parts of the bill out of the main bill, you won't garner any votes from the opposition. Politics 101. I'm for the the continuing CR, but $100 BILLION for disaster relief? Seems like a ridiculously high number, and $10 billion for farmers, when people can't even afford groceries??? I'd say figure out the conundrum of why the farmers are broke, yet the people can't afford food before you throw 1 cent to anyone. You are COMPLETELY delusional.

I'm having trouble even laughing at stuff like this anymore. This country is at stop dysfunction junction. I'd be very surprised if that passes.

It's pretty much the same bill, but now it contains a provision to remove the debt ceiling for trumps first 2 years. Rand Paul said like 20-30 reps are against no debt ceiling(unlimited spending), and I can't see one single democrat handing them a 'yay' vote for no concessions at all, especially considering they had already agreed before. Could be DOA, and a big bungle. Not really Johnsons fault. trump and Elon basically threw the red challenge flag right before the snap. Just watched Nancy Mace on Fox. She said this CR cost exactly the same as yesterdays, and they pulled 1000 procedural pages out to make it look 'smaller'. You can't make this stuff up.

Musk is trump's stooge. trump has Elon tweet out the CR was too expensive, so they pulled it, yesterday. Today, the bill is back with no serious cuts, EXCEPT it gets rid of the debt ceiling until 2027. Why exactly would Musk recall the bill only to hand the GQP a blank check for 2 years if he's looking to cut costs? Makes ZERO sense. Luckily, a few, what many here would call rinos, caught on, and are going to vote no. If you run on cutting spending/deficit/debt, you don't need or get an unlimited credit card.

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Bills would have slowed up at midfield.

LOL. Did the same thing

Didn't look in to me. It was

NGL, we gettin calls(and no calls) today.

Fred you so ugluh!

Fred Stanford?

Even a blind squirrel...

Huh? The right will call these facts fake news, and still firmly believe that drill baby drill is going to solve inflation. Shock would be maga admitting they were duped on ANYTHING.

We can't simply go without produce, though. Obviously some tariffs were a good idea and that why they remain in place, but surely tariffs to bring back specific, targeted industries is better than blanket tariffs. It would also be nice to have an idea how the effects of the migration and drug tariffs are going to be monitored for success. If this is just an extension of the abject failure 'war on drugs', then I don't like it one bit.

First, would there be a way to tangibly monitor and track migration, with set guidelines on when the tariffs would/wouldn't be in effect? Second, that tariff is paid by US importers. The only way to avoid passing that cost on to US customers would be to get the goods through another similarly priced market. If the tariffs are on all Central American countries/markets, then where would we get these goods from at an affordable price for Americans? Certainly not American farmers, as they will already be hurting from losses of their migrant worker force, and they won't be able to compete price wise. A lot of the tariffs on China worked out, but the agricultural ones not so much, and that's the main export from Central America. The Canadian tariffs I really don't understand at all. The Chinese tariffs, with regard to fentanyl, also has the same issue with migration, in how would you monitor its success? I suppose we'll find out more details eventually, but for now those are some big questions.

How will this work? Will Mexico just detain citizens they believe may be looking to migrate over the border? Is that even legal?

Forcing the picks was, and I believe still is being discussed. I had heard that there were at least 8 hard no's from senators on Gaetz, and he personally named 4 that would certainly doom him, so that made forcing his appointment that much harder in the public eye. Confirmation hearings would have almost certainly forced the release of what appears to be a damning report, and he knows they'll be voting on that shortly. If he removed himself now, I think that makes the vote on releasing it passing much less likely. That report could harm him politically and in the private sector. This was probably his best move. Like you said, he's looking for loyalty, so one nominee is really no different than the other.