Old Coot
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The Bills D plays alot of Cover 2. This Youtube video explains basically how Cover 2 is played. Pay particular attention to the middle LB's assignment in Cover 2. It's the reason the Bills like Tremaine Edwards. He has the range to cover the hole in the middle of the cover 2 D. There are variations within cover 2 not discussed in this video. The variations are dependent on what the coach likes, defensive personnel strengths and what the opposing offense has shown what it likes to do in particular situations (down, distance, field location).
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They need to have better balance. The passing O can win them games but they won't win a SB. By the time you get to the conference finals you face more on-field talent and better coaching. They'll devise schemes to take away whey we do best. An example is the conference final against KC.
I think that our running game was more than an afterthought last year. Daboll changed the style of run blocking in an effort to get more out of the run game.
It is a mystery to me how the O line can be good at pass blocking but not run blocking.
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Charlie Tolar at 5'6" & 210 lbs was the Houston Oilers fullback in the old AFL. His nickname: the Human Bowling Ball
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I like Josh Allen but he still has work to do on his accuracy and decision-making. Compared to the cut ups of Mahomes' dropped interceptions, Mahomes was more accurate.
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For those readers not familiar with the term "3-technique" here is a simple article explaining the concept:
Here is a much more advanced article on the 3 tech's role in the 4-3 defense:
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The Big Nickle subs in a safety for the slot cover DB. From an X's & O's perspective how is the Big Nickle formation used?
Obviously it gives up something against the slot receiver. Those guys are small speedy & shifty and can cut both ways. They are harder to cover than a WR flanked out wide because the DB can't use the sideline defensively. This is probably why the Big Nickle formation is usually a sub package used only against certain formations.
I can see that a Big Nickle DB formation would be better against the run than the standard Nickle. Also better coverage matchups against the TE (hear that Travis) and an RB running a pass pattern.
Apparently the Big Nickle S is also better at blitzing off the edge than a standard DB. In zone the Big Nickle can cover the middle for slants, low crossers and other shallow to medium routes.
Are there any other strengths or weaknesses of the Big Nickle formation
Here are some studies of the Big Nickle formation:
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/8/22/6052637/college-football-nickel-backs-lamarcus-joyner
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Some of the 1960 Bills held unofficial workout on the athletic field behind Amherst Central HS. I saw them.
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The Cover 2 guys have an insightful analysis of the performances of Moss & Singletary during the 2020 season:
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2 hours ago, Bob in STL said:
What you describe happens to Allen every week. New England especially is great at disguising their defense. Every team does that, even the Jets.
The Bills problem on offense was execution, not play calling. They just did not play well. They missed chances to convert and they failed in the red zone.
Agreed.
But in the playoffs the opponents' D will have more talent and better coaching than the typical NFL defense & therefore is more likely to stymie our offense.
It's difficult to conclude whether our poor execution was the result of poor play on our part or the Chiefs' disguising their D. At this level of competition a split second's hesitation is enough to get you beaten.
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3 hours ago, ganesh said:
Actually, the Bills offense that year ran through Thurman Thomas. The failure on the Bills was NOT using their MVP on every down. He was that good.
I agree that Thomas was a key (perhaps the most important) component in the K-Gun.
But Kelly called the plays at the line in that no-huddle offense. Kelly's job after the hike (as he described it) was to find & hit the open man.
BTW the K-Gun was called that after Keith McKeller, the speedy TE whose nickname was "Killer." (for his killer speed).
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The Chiefs did something in the AFC Championship game that the Bills will need to address going forward because they'll see it from other teams:
Our offense runs through Josh Allen. Therefor, if a defense can confuse him, it stands a good chance of shutting down the Bills' offense. One Josh looked over the Chiefs' D and after the communication to the sidelines was cut off, the Chiefs' D shifted to another D. Unless Josh's audible play was more effective against the new D, the Bills were running a play designed for the initial D.
As an aside I recall a description of what Belichik did to us a the Giants DC in our first Super Bowl loss. Our offense ran through Kelly so they confused him. After every Bills' offensive series Kelly & Marchibroda would discuss what the Giants did on D for that series & decide on plays based on that. Belichik would call defenses on the next series that were unlike what he had called in the previous series. As a result, Kelly seldom got a defense he expected.
AS to the Ravens game, I'm not sure what they did to stop us. Comments?
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Interesting X's & O's study on Chief's play design that gets Kelce open:
https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/01/28/how-the-chiefs-use-travis-kelce-to-make-him-unstoppable/
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These re-signings say a lot about how the players view our team. The Bills are no longer a minor league club that develops players who go on to sign with competitive teams.
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56 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:
Wilmer Fowler
There's a name I haven't heard in many a year.
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One of the Bill's games at the Rockpile in 1960. I went with my dad. We paid to park near the stadium on some guy's front lawn.
I remember Mack Yoho returning kicks (the crowd would chant "Yo-Ho", Yo-Ho" just before the kick, Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion playing flanker and Laverne "Tarzan" Torzcon on the DL. The QB was Tommy O'Connell, I think.
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The Mad Bomber -- Darryl Lamonica
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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:
I still run the wing T with my teams.
Can't throw cuz I don't have a quarterback, but I do have six running backs
If you can fake it, you can make it.
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Well I'll be hornswoggled. I never thought that the eagles would eat 33 mill in dead cap space. Looks like they plan on doing a complete tear-down and rebuild.
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Played in high school. We ran the T Formation in the early '60s. Passing, what's that?
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Early 70's, guy from the stands runs out & grabs the ball. Mike Curtis, the Colts' MLB hits the guy so hard he knocked him into next week.
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I don't think we would have beaten Tampa. That said, its hard to judge because KCs OL was patchwork.
The Chief's Grabby man defense did not work today I think in part because the refs game planned for it.
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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
? 2 games with 2 or fewer targets?
LAR which he left halfway with a foot injury (he was on injury report the previous week so probably hampered, 2 targets, 0 receptions
1st NWE in which we only passed 18 times total - Bease and Gabe Davis only saw 2 targets each in that game - Brown had 2 targets, 1 reception for 21 yds
Also saw only 4 targets, 0 receptions in KAN game, in which he had a knee injury (I think) against Las Vegas week 4, was out week 5, and tried to come back probably too soon.
So games where he played but was not injured or hampered:
NYJ 70 yds, MIA 82 yds, LVR 42 yds, NWE 21 yds (low pass count) SEA 99 yds, AZ 72 yds, 2nd MIA, 72 yds.
If you just want a quick statistical way to understand Brown's impact on the game, it's to look at Davis, Beasley and Brown's numbers together.
Diggs is gonna get his receptions. Double cover him, put your best guy on him, he's just that good.
So then with Brown in the game, it's "pick your poison".
Indianapolis played to take away Brown; Davis and Bease went off (0 receptions for Brown: 57 yds for Beasley)
The Ravens played to take away Beasley: Brown 62 yds
Kansas City tried to take away both, but were more successful with Brown (he's easier to mug I guess) Brown 24 yds, Beasley 88.
Brown is good, and the key to remember is Cole Beasley's comment after the Ravens game that even when he's not making receptions, he can be opening things up for someone else.
Point taken. He's better than I thought. I appreciate that you gave supporting facts rather than just an unsupported conclusion.
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Brown had only 33 receptions but then he was hampered by that leg injury. He seemed to be a non-factor in several games.
Perhaps someone who has studied the all 22's could comment on his performance. It's difficult to judge a WR's performance when he's not targeted all that much (52 times in 9 games but 4 games with 2 or fewer targets).
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I pray for Andy Reid.
His kids have been a mess for years. When Reid was in Philly both his kids had hard drug problems (one or both on heroin). Andy may have given Britt a job with the Chiefs to keep an eye on him but the high stress that comes with being an NFL coach can't be good for Britt's demons.
I hope Britt gets the help he needs.
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Tre White Interviewed in NFL Film Session
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Tre White explains some of the nuances of his DB play in an NFL film session.