Old Coot
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Otto Graham was a very good QB. He played for the Belichick of his era, Paul Brown (after whom the Browns are named)). The Cleveland Browns were so good that they won all 4 championships of the All-American Football Conference (the Bills were one of the AAFC teams). When the AAFC folded in 1949 the Browns joined the NFL and won the 1950 NFL championship plus the 1954 & 55 championships with Otto at the helm.
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To quote Whittier: "Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'It might have been'"
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1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:
I accidentally saw an all 22 from the endzone behind Mahomes and it looked to me like Milano got caught looking to the trips formation to the defensive left and missed the snap of the ball. Thus, he was late to react to seam route by Kelce.
That's what I saw, also.
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I'm not an Edmunds homie -- I think he has room for improvement on running plays.
The most common D the Bills play (as has been pointed out in outher posts) is not a 4-3. It's a nickle 4-2 with 5 DB's. There is no typical MLB. Edmunds' assignment is to clog up the middle of the field passing lanes so throws go elsewhere. That's one reason he doesn't appear to make many plays in the passing game.
Edwards also has good lateral movement enabling him to make plays all over the field. This & his pass coverage skills enable out safties to do things they otherwise could not do.
It is worth noting that during the 13 sec, the Bills did not have Edmunds in the center of the field. He was on the side of the formation opposite to the play. On Kelce's catch, Milano appears to have had center coverage responsibility.
For purposes of discussion Pro Football Reference has the following stats for Edmunds & Milano:
Edmunds numbers are in the is in the first column:
Combined tackles: 108 86
Solo tackles 70 57
Assists 38 29
Tackles for loss 7 15
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On 2/1/2022 at 12:02 PM, Rico said:
Gary Marangi
Now there's a name from the past.
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2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:
The icing on the cake was when Thurman just handed to ball to a ref after his TD.
No celebrations ever. True Pro.
The pros used to act that way. Now every good play merits a flamboyant response.
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Ten minute video here:
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How about the Washington Reds. That should get Putin off the Ukraine's back.
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I'll buy them & move them to Cheektowaga.
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The Goat has retired. Next Goat up!
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I'd like to see the Bengals win. BUT their OL is overmatched by the Rams DL. The game may resemble last years SB with Burrows playing the role of Mahomes running for his life.
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6 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Why would Dorsey leave if it comes down to a choice between being OC in NY or Buffalo? And if offered the OC here, it then becomes a lateral move so the Bills can just say no to NY. He knows what he has in Allen, from everything written they have a close relationship.
I hope you are right.
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If Dorsey leaves and an external OC is hired that means alot of extra work for the offenses (especially Josh) in the off season & training camp because there will be a new offensive system to learn.
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3 hours ago, y2zipper said:
What's supposed to happen instead is that Wallace is supposed to play inside leverage and funnel Mahomes' pre-snap read toward the safety help so Mahomes either has to throw it into the double coverage or throw it away and go for the hail mary. Instead what happens is that Levi plays the outside and there's no help in the middle.
Maybe; or maybe not. If Wallace is lined up correctly, the only inside help is Milano who appears to be dropping into zone. Milano initially steps toward Hill and away from Wallace. That opens up the middle for Kelce.
Without knowing what defense was called you can't say who screwed up. Wallace? Milano? Frazier? McDermot?
35 minutes ago, beebe said:Allen, if he stays on this track, will be earning OC's like Daboll their head coaching jobs too. But without that stabilizing force at head coach, it's going to be somewhat annoying to constantly re-learn or re-tool the offense every three years, unless the Bills are able to develop/promote from within and keep the same system intact.
This is why if daboll gets hired away it's important to keep the same offensive philosophy, play-naming, etc.
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50 minutes ago, SoMAn said:
And there’s good old # 49 - Johnny on the Spot. Mr. First Down
If that's a comment on the Kelce catch its unfair. Edmunds is lined up deep over Hill on the other side of the formation. If anything the fact that Edmunds is in on the tackle shows his lateral speed.
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I wish someone on this board would analyze the defenses in the final 13 secs. On Kelce's 20 yard grab Wallace has outside leverage on Kelce so someone must have had inside leverage but who? Milano? one of the safeties?
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Squib kick is not a bad idea but there are risks: a good runback -- maybe one of those rugby-style plays with lateral passes.
A well-coached returner will immediately down the ball so maybe 1-2 secs runs off the clock.
By kicking deep Bills were showing faith in their D.
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Is this tactic legal? When Mahomes leaves the pocket he's a potential runner so we can knock down his receivers.
I've seen this done but the rules may have closed this loophole.
I hope not. Everyone loves a good loophole.
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1 minute ago, SydneyBillsFan said:6 minutes ago, Old Coot said:
How about some "Two Up"?
Only legal on one day a year due to all the drunken fights that broke out.
Good on yuh. What's a Bills fan doing in Sydney?
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14 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:
Down under it's 'tails always fails'
How about some "Two Up"?
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10 hours ago, y2zipper said:
Returner calls fair catch and no time comes off the clock.
Can you fair catch a kick that is bouncing along the ground?
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Question:
Assume a short kick to the 5 yd line. Returner catches it & immediately kneels down, does the clock stop then or only when the returner is touched? I think only when the returner is touched and that the rule is different for a kneel down in the end zone.
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Interesting thing about statistics:
1. Odds of coin coming up tails 11 times in a row is quite small.
But
2. The coin doesn't know that. There are only two sides to the coin so on the 11th flip, the odds are 50-50 that it lands tails.
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How do you effectively cover Kelce and Hill for most of the game and then let them run wild at the end of the 4 Q & OT?
It's either terrible defensive calls or our D wore down at the end. Maybe a bit of both.
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Aaron Rogers in the Playoffs
in The Stadium Wall
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Unitas did it all. He called his own plays and played in an era when the D was allowed to beat up the QB. Halas' Bears were notorious for being dirty players.
It's really impossible to say who the GOAT or rank QBs. As others have stated the game has changed so much.