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WideNine
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On 12/11/2018 at 5:16 AM, Ned Kelly said:
I doubt Tyler Badasz lasts until the third Rnd. "Best interior lineman in the draft".
Unpopular choice but I'd like the Bills secure him with the first pick.
Dawkins, Teller, Badass can grow together with Allen.
Best available (attainable) fa Rt/RG
If Tyler declares he would be your center - consensus 1st round talent if looking for a stud C.
If he doesn't declare then his line mate Michael Deiter would be a good 2nd round value, not sure he would drop into the 3rd. He's solid, comes from a Wisconsin program that has been churning out NFL-calibre o-linemen for a while now, has played LG, C, LT when needed.
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20 hours ago, billsfan5121 said:
It really doesn’t sound right, but in a way I can see how Allen’s velocity and ball placement could cause issues, resulting in more drops. I’m not talking about uncatchable passes, but those ones that are slightly off but would still constitute as a drop, whereas a Brees type of qb may have put it in the perfect spot
Do the names Kelvin Benjamin or Charles Clay ring any bells when mentioned.
Factor those two pass-dropping machines and throw in an inconsistent Zay Jones (turning out to be pretty streaky - dropped passes all last year sans Allen throwing them, found his hands for a while, then took some steps backwards last game... jury is still out on Zay), and pretty hard to just pin it on Josh's strong arm.
I do think he will benefit from having receivers that can catch balls with some zip - just means that down the road he potentially could fit the ball into tighter windows.
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Well the Viking fans were pretty pissed after that game
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17 hours ago, GreggTX said:
Unfortunately, Allen's inaccuracy seems to be due to muscle coordination in his arm. He'll never be known as an accurate QB and won't be able to lift a team the way a guy like Brady or Peyton could. If we can put together a strong roster, we can be a playoff team, but I don't see Josh winning any SB's.
Were you trying to be funny - because this is some funny "expert" s##t - like you stayed at a Holiday Inn the other night kind of expertise.
Poor Josh, cannot eat his cereal without missing his mouth with the spoon due to this horrible affliction.
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18 hours ago, mjt328 said:
It usually doesn't take a full season for Defensive Coordinators to adjust.
Tyrod Taylor had plenty of bad games with us in that first year.
He never really got better. He never really got worse. He was just up-and-down, depending on how effective defenses were at keeping him in the pocket.
One strategy I saw the Jets using yesterday (mostly in the second half) was using a spy, but then sending him on a delayed blitz. It seemed that Allen was less willing to take off with defenders running at him, as opposed to standing flat-footed a few yards away. It will be interesting to see if the Lions employ a similar tactic.
No doubt, Allen will eventually need to be able to beat teams with his arm.
Agree to disagree as Josh had 101 rushing yards against the Jets and they were more effective against him in the 2nd half because he got dinged and was hobbled.
I do think that NFL defenses are going to have to dedicate safeties and bigger corners that can tackle to the spy role, but he has proven to be able to make the first guy miss - a lot so there is a bit more to stopping his running than just spying on him.
I do feel that he has to be a more effective pocket passer, but I do not think that the alleged pocket is the safest place for Josh behind this o-line as of now.
Folks need to chillax a bit.
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44 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
I think you are missing my point.
Yes. Both Manuel and Allen were drafted with bad problems in their throwing mechanics, and the HOPE we could fix their accuracy problems. Coming out of college, there were a lot of similarities in that department.
As time went along, it became clear that Manuel's problem was too deep rooted to fix. His throwing motion was already set, and it wasn't something he could re-learn from the ground-up. In contrast, we are already seeing improvements in Allen that NEVER happened with our last 1st Round QB. From college, to the Senior Bowl, to training camp/preseason, to Week 2, to now. There is growth. Yes, he's still missing lots of throws. But the GOOD throws are there multiple times each week. Which tells you he CAN get better.
What happens from here is anyone's guess. Maybe Allen hits a wall.
But maybe he continues to improve.
Off topic a bit, but I admit I was for a time a defender of EJ Manuel.
It took running into a colleague at work who was friends and had family ties with a bunch of NFL players (mostly Saints) than held an off-season training camp near New Orleans that a few Bills attended. Usually I take with a grain of salt the "I know a guy that knows a guy stuff", but he had the pictures of him hanging with the players and such that lent some credibility and I was able to confirm some of the Bills he mentioned were at the camp - it was enough.
Either way, when I was talking football with him and began making excuses for EJ he told me that the Bills players he spoke to said that EJ just did not have it upstairs and could not memorize/execute a playbook no matter how much the coaches dumbed it down, and that even the plays he did get they usually made it so he only had to read one half of the field. They did not think his issues were coachable.
It was enough to help me finally fall off the bandwagon - I don't think Allen has those same issues, just not enough NFL-level coaching and experience as he seems to execute Daboll's plays without too much miscommunication or ugly breakdowns like expecting to hand it off and having no one there, or standing like a statue till he is sacked, etc.
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22 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Why are you trying so hard to polish this turd? It was a horrible throw. It happens. Accept it and move on.
Accuracy and precision on a throw that was picked off is crazy talk.
Agree with most of this - bad decisions happen, and happen more often in the face of pressure.
There are instances where a throw is accurate, but nearly picked off. Josh had one where he locked onto his favorite receiver Foster, never noted the safety help the corners had over the top, and threw what may have been an accurate pass to Foster, but was nearly picked off by the safety he dragged in with his eyes.
Rookie mistake of not reading coverage and not looking off the safety. A lot of folks thought that was a pass intended for McKenzie, but he was in the slot, Josh never looked his way, and I think McKenzie just ran his route a bit too deep and tried to make a play on a pass that was not intended for him.
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8 hours ago, VW82 said:
I find it interesting that despite going into painstaking detail about each throw no one who disagrees will say which interpretation they disagree with and why. The whole point of doing this was to talk specifics about Allen instead of generalizations.
Details yes, with more than a bit of a bias-effect.
I could just as easily say that the pass over the middle to Clay would have been catchable had the Miami defender not been dragging Clay backwards. See how that works? It is subjectivity lending conclusions to a preconceived bias. We all do it to a degree, you just went into "painstaking detail" doing it. Don't let it keep you up at night.
Also, you would benefit from watching some of the All-22 reviews if you want to get fairly knowledgeable and objective analysis of what went right or wrong with a play.
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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Not a cousins fan. So I’m going to with Keenum is simply better.
The chemistry thing on teams is a dicey thing to mess with. I think we have all seen teams bring in high-priced talent and flat-out play worse. Heck, that has been the Redskins modus operandi for years...
They did change their OC, but the defensive coaches are the same.
The Vikings (much like our Bills) have a reputation for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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15 minutes ago, Augie said:
Josh isn’t perfect, but these guys need to CATCH THE STINKIN’ BALL!
Who knew Foster could do more than a go route? It’s been at least interesting to watch, much different than early in the season.
McKenzie had good speed on that early sweep for the score, but seemed like he gradually lost a step against the Jets and was not as shifty later in the game. He is a key piece to stretching opposing defenses, and has been a solid play maker with that speed.
I had no idea that he had injured his toe at practice and was questionable for the game. The Bills are hurting all over their roster.
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14 minutes ago, Tcali said:
Namath was an amazing QB. People dont remember that his knee was completely shredded in (68? ) and he was hobbling on one leg for the rest of his career.
His release was incredibly quick and his accuracy was dead on AND when he wasnt a cripple he was an excellent runner.
Amazing the dumb comments from people who never saw the guy play.
Kinda like the under 50 crowd who say that Thurman was a better RB than OJ. -based on what they read on the internet on Stats sites.
Give me quality and brilliance when judging a player.
Gayle Sayers was one of the greats.
Never saw Sayers or the Juice...was a bit too young, but am wise enough to take the word of folks that saw them shine.
I do remember watching Eric Dickerson when I was a kid and could not believe the way he flew by defenders without looking like he was running hard at all. He still ranks up there for me as one of the great ones - just not a Bill.
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10 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
True, but even still...
Just shows how skewed stats have become now.
That's why rings are all that matters. Favre and Manning are on the couch watching all their records get broken. As will Brady and Brees one day.
But nobody can take the rings
No argument here.
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35 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Namath threw for over 4000 yards and 26 TD in 1967 back when they only played 14 games and there weren't all the rules favoring offense
For reference, Joe Montana and Jim Kelly never broke 4000 yards in a season in either of their entire careers, and thats with HOF teammates all over the place and HOF head coaches with revolutionary offenses
In fairness Namath was at the tail end (I think) of the "pass-heavy" AFL, was stickum around then too?
Either way I think Broadway Joe was quite a character, and is a piece of NFL lore that enriches its history.
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13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
I'm looking up these stats and it doesn't make sense!
Those unstoppable Bills offenses and Montana's unstoppable 49ers offenses and not a single 4000 season between them...
They seemingly scored at will but you look at the stats and they would barely be top 10 today
Freaking Matt Stafford did it 7 years in a row and has a shot at making that 8 this year...
So I've gotta give Namath props... That is a crazy season
Those great teams also had great balance where the pass setup the runs and vice-versa, and there was plenty of scoring.
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33 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
You have selective amnesia. Over 2000 yards receiving in his 1st two Bills' season with 15 TDs with EJ, Orton, and Tyrod as his QBs in run oriented offenses.
Probably...and old age - misspelled his name too, but I know I wasn't the only one who felt that the juice just wasn't worth the squeeze with Watkins
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/02/bills-were-smart-to-admit-sammy-watkins-mistake/
Admittedly, looking at his "poor stats" in this article and thinking about our current crop of receivers - gives me some perspective, but the injuries...
The talent was there, but I think the Bills made the right move letting him go.
He is making top receiver money, but has never been to the Pro Bowl or had more than 65 receptions in a season. He had just one 1,000-yard season (when he caught 60 passes for 1,047 yards in 2015 ) and was plagued with injuries (foot, ankle, hip and calf) when here, and is now out 4-6 weeks in KC with... drum roll (foot injury - again).
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25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
The Vikes know how to evaluate receivers...the Bills not-so-much.
Even after blowing a bunch of picks to move up they went all-in to grab "Mr. Glass" Watkins.
Had an attitude even after getting a flat in his first training camp, and either hurt and not playing, or a tackle away from not finishing a game.
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39 minutes ago, Andy1 said:
I doubt that this horrible int gets much media coverage compared to Allen’s. It was about 4x as bad though. Could have been a pick 6...
Allen is waaay under the microscope, and it is what it is. Jim Kelly left a legacy in Buffalo and huge shoes to fill and the pressure and expectations on any new Bills QB has been tough.
Media-wise, if there is a way to dump on the Bills and Allen without watching a game, that's what we get. How many 3rd and forevers has Josh had to convert with the zero running game and penalties?
Miami has suffered in the wake of Marino, and I think any QB that takes over for NE will have Brady-comparison-issues. Of course in NE I could see Belicheat investing in a defense and winning the division kicking field goals.
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23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
This is the play where I thought he missed McKenzie high. Matt Waldman has a different interpretation, that he was trying to sneak the ball into Robert Foster but didn't look off the safety which allowed him to disrupt the play. It wasn't poor ball placement, the pass was where it needed to be. He just didn't freeze the safety. I actually feel better about that kind of mistake.
Thought the same thing, but a rookie staring down his most clutch receiver...I can live with that mistake....providing it is not a habit.
This is also a case where Josh has to recognize the defense pre-snap, and understand that the corners have safety help. Without understanding that, he may not even realize that his receiver is not in man coverage, and that there is a safety he needs to look off or freeze.
The safer option was with McKenzie singled up in the slot underneath and heading for a nice safe sideline throw, but I'm sure Matt is right and Josh had made up his mind where he was going with the ball before it was even snapped, and stared Foster down the whole way. So there should be a lot of things Daboll and Culley can teach just out of this clip.
While on the subject of teaching, I am still not sold on David Culley as a QB coach with all his prior NFL coaching experience limited to coaching WRs - It still feels like a heck of a risk the Bills are taking with their Allen investment not pursuing a proven commodity.
All we can do as fans to evaluate the coaching Josh is getting is to see if week after week he shows us something he could not execute the week before.
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On 12/7/2018 at 9:01 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:
I say the Bills should bring in all the WRs prospects they are interested in trying out and turn the jugs machine up to its rail gun setting and weed out the ones that likely can't catch a Josh Allen pass. Then go through the other evaluations - route-running, speed, release getting off a jam.
Just my opinion of course, but I think getting the right players that are a good fit comes down to those little details. Allen can get it there in a hurry and likely will always be a factor in his throws. He will need receivers that can handle that, regardless of their college pedigree.
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Tough break - literally, but prob the better of how bad it could have been...was worried more about ligament tears. Those slow-mo replays made me cringe, but I couldn't look away.
Wishing Matt a speedy recovery.
I thought Ivory looked like he may have dislocated his shoulder, but no news yet for us armchair doctors:)
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6 hours ago, dubs said:
I actually hadn’t thought of that but recall that play you are referring to.
As demented as that rationale would be by Anderson, perhaps that was the case.
I dunno about the retaliation angle...just think the opportunity was there and the Jets were taking shots all day.
You could queue up all the tackles that kickers have attempted to make over the years for a good laugh and most of them are pretty darn fugly...so no surprises that Hauschka reverted to a soccer-type tackle that missed...probably more a part of his background than NFL form tackling. Can't imagine anyone on the Jets feeling threatened by that...probably got a lot of laughs during film reviews.
If Hauschka had more leg on the kickoffs, or if the directional kicks that McDermott mentioned actually went in a direction other than right into the Jets' Andre Roberts' hands, and if our Special Teams coverage wasn't so damn bad, it would not have come down to him having to try to make the stop.
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Meh - Nothing to see here. Jenkins is scrappy and I don't mind that, but the Jets were laying a lot of late lumber out there yesterday and more than a few classless hits. Nothing excuses blindsiding a kicker, or all the late hits for guys that were obviously going out of bounds. Last time we played the Jets they also executed a really dangerous blind-side helmet to helmet hit on Teller. Just cannot dredge up sympathy for these guys.
He just needs to stop whining.
Chop blocks you just have to look out for as a defender and they are used a lot to get a guy off his feet and are only illegal if the defender is already engaged (I confess I did not see the play he was referencing). Now crack-back blocks are another story...
You want to see a really dirty crack-back block... search for a video of Frank Middleton's hit on the Bills' Sam Cowart (a linebacker that I thought was on the path to being one of the better one's the Bills have ever fielded) - pro-bowl bound that year, but he was never the same after that hit, ruptured his achilles trying to get back out there in 2001 - bounced around the league for a while. Truly cost him, but he said he had no hard feelings - not sure I would have felt the same.
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32 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
There was a nice touch pass to one of the RB's out of the backfield. A couple of his shorter sideline throws had nice touch as well. He had one dead duck of a throw that he tried to make to a RB standing 5 yards away from him. This is what we'll have to learn to live with - 1 or 2 of these types of throws. The trade off will be a couple of 20 yard runs on 3rd & 10.
This.
He had several nice touch throws, and then there was a screen play where he had too much time to think about taking the heat off his throw and it was way short.
Josh looked worse after he got hurt - no excuse, just an observation. Not sure where or how he is hurt - I am sure if you asked him, he would say everywhere.
I would like to see what Josh could do behind the kind of protection Darnold had today, where he could survey the field and get into a rhythm without feeling like he was on the verge of getting planted in the ground.
I think we need to go after some veteran FA o-linemen, because the whole group of youngsters out there now lack leadership and are skittish as colts, and a veteran presence can go further to improving these guys than any coaching will. Then fill in the gaps and depth with the draft.
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2 hours ago, B-Man said:
I agree.
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Betting ligaments all around the ankle...done either way for the season. Takes a long while to heal just to be able to just take your weight, not to mention the kind of change of direction you need at his position.
My FA targets
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Get'er done McBeane - I usually have a rule about drafting o-linemen in the 1st, but I would wave that for Biadasz.
I would still like to see them pick up a solid veteran FA o-lineman or two to plug in somewhere along that line. I think having that experience next to your young starters speeds up the learning curve all across the line, and helps keep the "panic" out of their game.
They do that, and grab a few offensive weapons (a TE that can catch and block would not hurt) and they send Josh a clear message, "you are an investment we are willing to protect, and build around".