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56 minutes ago, JohnC said:
If the Chargers would have changed their defense to fewer DBs BB would have altered the offense to take advantage of it. I'm sure the Chargers didn't believe that the Pats OL could have so easily handled their DL. The Pats won at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball in this game. I've seen the Pats play less than stellar on both sides of the line this season. When the playoffs start their coaching usually outshines the opposition coaching.
This is my take, when NE is winning at the LOS and running over your defensive front, teams like the Bills end up having to commit their linebackers and safeties to stopping the run, which opens up play action and the dinks and dunks to their TE's or receivers out of the slot or running drag routes behind them.
Playing zone or just putting 7 DBs out there wont get it done, you absolutely have to win the LOS battle and have solid linebackers or you are not going to get them off the field.
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29 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
The Chargers walked into it badly.
They did the very worst thing they could possibly do: let NE run the ball down their throats and give Brady the cheap throws. That's the literal opposite of what every team that beat NE this season did.
7 DBs all game long against a run-first team? Brutal
The Bills built up the perfect secondary to beat the NE of 2 years ago, lots of quality coverage safeties and a lanky coverage linebacker who can shadow those tight ends.... then they go and run over us with their running game.
It's like they watch film and figure out what your team sucks at.
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2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
The whole time NE has been on a tear we've gone 9-7 3 times. 8-8 twice and losing records the rest of the years. And in at least 3 of those years we split with them. So I don't think this has a whole lot to do with our lack of playoff experience. Winning the division perhaps, but making the playoffs, I think not.
Losing to them twice a year (which is the norm) does affect our team's record and ability to get into the playoffs.
Granted we have had some pretty suck teams since the late Ralph showed Wade the door, but the Fish and the Jets have only managed to peak once each since the turn of the millennium too. We have been NE's friggin doormat for too long. And even if we back into the playoffs, if we can't get by NE in the playoffs what is the point?
The Bills beat NE they will likely take the division and be in the playoffs and have a huge confidence edge, but we don't so we wont till that is fixed. We get ahead on offense and our defense folds like a cheap seat, we get stellar defensive play and then our offense can't find their a$$ with both hands and turns it over for a defensive score, or we play a good close game and Special Teams finds a way to sn*tch defeat from the jaws of victory, and we always get screwed by the officiating - that's a given.
They need to figure it out - and the only saving grace is that NE generally makes every other AFC team look pathetic in the playoffs so comparing the Bills to teams in other divisions that have gotten into AFC playoffs past by beating on weak divisional rivals like the Browns, Cincinnati, or the Raiders is just apples to oranges.
I know one thing - constantly blowing up your team is not going to get them past Belichick and Pegula knows this too. Although this off season is key, we should be able to clearly see a team that is making progress and moving in the right direction player-wise and personnel-wise and that does mean more wins and better performance against NE.
I am really curious about the Special Teams and positional coach vacancies - also who they promote to national scout to fill that void.
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2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:
Most Every NFL team is in the playoffs with some frequency. 35% of the teams make the playoffs every year. It is not that big of an accomplishment. Sometimes former super bowl winners like the Raven's Harbaugh are considered on the hot seat for not delivering recent results. Many Bengals fans would say that "continuity" just let to a decade of futility under Marvin Lewis. Bills fans are truly scarred. The think a playoff winning coach is such a rare commodity that you must keep that person for ever. There are three levels of coaching 1) gets more out of the team than the talent would suggest 2) gets the expected results out of the talent 3) gets below expected results based on talent.
You can be in the first category without having a winning record. I don't know where to place McDermott. The talent on offense is awful. He can't catch the balls for the players. But Mcdermott thinks the position coaching is bad too (he fired several). The handling of QBs, the high number of penalties, weak offensive play calling, piss poor clock management and hiring the wrong positional coaches don't really indicate a strong head coach though.Most don't share their division with NE.
How often do the Jets and Miami make the playoffs?
The talent divide isn't that great, but teams in our division are handed 2 L's every season...except for the odd one-off game they manage to take from Belichick once or twice a decade. They also keep cycling through front offices and players looking for the magic formula to get over the NE hump...which usually just means they are in constant disarray and rarely in position to actually do just that.
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30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
I highly fear that the Patriots* will go 0-16 that year, draft Lawrence and then go back to being a thorn in our sides for the next 15 years. Hope I'm wrong.
Hoping that Lawrence kid goes to an NFC team out West.
He's the real deal with ice in his veins. Just unfazed by pressure situations, groomed as a QB, with far too much poise, timing, and ability to squeeze his throws into a tiny window.
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Our national scout is now their GM so he would be in pretty good position to piss in our Cheerios...
The only saving grace is that as an org they are where we were at last year...under-performing QB, they are not in CAP jail, but need more than their projected EST. 20 million or so of available CAP in 2019, so they will be shedding players.
Hate to lose talented FO folks, but it happens when they want to climb the ladder and scout to GM is a good jump.
OBD needs to start filling the holes.
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The Bills will be competitive once they can beat a Brady-led NE team, or he retires. The biggest obstacle to the Bills sniffing the post season over the past 2 decades is NE and we can talk personnel and player changes till we are blue, but if they don't get that monkey off their backs and turn those 2 L's into W's they cannot be competitive.
The Bills get the brunt of the jokes from NFL teams that have not had to be in the same division as NE, so they are shocked when the Bills go out and spank a Vikings team or play other out-of-division teams tough. Is what it is, but the tide may be turning...grandpa Brady can't do it forever and we have a dynamic young QB and a chance to build this right McBeane better be burning the midnight oil for this off season to find the right coaches and players to build that foundation.
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I am not current on O-line coaches, but I have always admired how coached-up NE's line is every year even when they seem to play the guy they picked up off the street.
Looks like there is a reason they look as good as they do - interesting article rating offensive line coaches (wonder if Dante Scamecchia and Daboll have a connection - maybe the Pegulas can outbid Kraft for his services).
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3 minutes ago, Yav said:
His 40 time isn’t going to impress. He does play faster than his 40 and what you really need to watch is his catch radius and his ability to win the contested catches. He does get separation with good route running, that being said he will need to learn more routes but his footwork and hands are great. Rice and Fitz weren’t the fastest but they made/make up for that with good routes and strong hands.
I would compare Harry to Bolin. He’s a big body WR that has good footwork, strong hands, excellent catch radius and will go up and get the ball.
Fair enough.
Whoever they target as wide receivers I am primarily looking in this draft for guys that catch with their hands, high-point the ball, good catch radius, and attitude to compete. I am not seeing a lot of blazing speed with these larger receivers, but there is good speed.
That is why I do not mind if they grab a TE or two from this draft where the pool is deep. They will not be blowing by DBs, but if they have great hands and can out-compete for the ball, and throw in some blocking on the edge, they would be a reliable outlet for Allen and maybe pitch in a bit springing our running game.
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On 1/11/2019 at 11:42 AM, Iamkrgr said:I would be 100% ok with this draft...9: R1P9OT JONAH WILLIAMSALABAMA41: R2P9WR DEEBO SAMUELSOUTH CAROLINA71: R3P7C ELGTON JENKINSMISSISSIPPI ST113: R4P11TE T.J. HOCKENSONIOWA133: R4P31RB RODNEY ANDERSONOKLAHOMA149: R5P10EDGE JALEN JELKSOREGON159: R5P20WR ANTHONY JOHNSON (UB)BUFFALO184: R6P9G CODY FORDOKLAHOMA224: R7P8TE IRV SMITH JR.ALABAMA230: R7P14C JESSE BURKETTSTANFORD
I would not mind if it goes like this, but in a defensive talent heavy draft I don't see McBeane going with this much offense, rather hitting FA to fill a bunch of holes there.
Rodney Anderson goes a bit early considering he has to come back from injury and has a history of injuries, but I like the kid and his heart.
I don't see Bama's Irv Smith Jr. lasting till the 7th, many mocks have him going in the 1st.
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39 minutes ago, Yav said:
Take a look at some of those mock drafts. I’ve seen him mocked to 49ers and many believe he’s a top 10 pick right now.
As always things will will change with the combine results but as of right now this kid is a top 10 pick.
Harry is the best WR in this draft. He’s a very special talent.
I am not a N'Keal Fan as i just cannot see the separation in his film so I have questions about how his speed and quickness translate into his pro game.
So before the loyal followers of N'Keal freak out, folks are allowed their opinions, some if not most of us will be wrong.
For my own ranking of WRs, I am willing to wait to see what his 40 time looks like at the combine, but I am thinking he will be around 4.57 or 4.58 which is probably not game-changing speed. If he shows more, I am open to being convinced as he has been a very productive college player - we will see.
IMO there are no real exceptional WRs in this draft that just jump off the tape at you, but there are a handful of good WR's then a pretty quick drop. Admittedly, with how weak the QB play has been this year, perhaps there are a few of these guys have not been able to showcase their abilities.
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On 1/11/2019 at 1:05 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Using Drafttek
1. WR DK Metcalf 6'4" 225 Ole Miss
2. OT David Edwards 6'7" 315 Wisconsin
3. OG Chris Lyndstrom 6'3" 307 Boston College
4. TE TJ Hockenson 6'4" 250 Iowa
4. DT Olive Sagapolu 6'2" 345 Wisconsin
5. DE Chase Winovich 6'3" 245 Michigan
5. CB Rock Ya-Sin 6'2" 190 Temple
6. OLB Ben Burr-Kiven 6'0" 221 Washington
7. Punter Mitch Wishnowsky 6'2" 220 Utah
I tried to improve on this last night because I feel like taking any of the available WRs at #9 is a reach, but anytime I took an impact defensive player first it kind of threw the whole thing off. The ideal situation is if Buffalo can trade down for an extra pick.
If they take an impact defensive player I am thinking DT that can make tackles for a loss (thinking run stopping issues) behind the lind of scrimmage:
1. DT Christian Wilkins 6'4" Clemson (or Dexter Lawrence there are more than a few impact DTs here BPA)
then one of the several bigger receivers available this year with enough speed and decent hands should still be available in the early 2nd:
2. A J Brown, or Riley Ridley - Brown may not drop so far, but Ridley should be about there.
So in the 3rd you take a chance on the deep TE class and go for the best offensive linemen available.
3. OT Edwards or OG Deiter from a good Badger program or maybe Risner from Kansas. I like your Edwards pick as he is a road grader at RT, my interior picks here are guys that have played well in other positions across the line so good depth or ability to plug holes missed in FA
We both land on TE here, but there is no way Hock (if he declares) drops to the 4th regardless of what drafttek says he will be gone by the early 3rd round, as will Fant (not a fan), and Albert Akwue...., Caleb Wilson just does not seem to have the quickness on film that I have seen on his write ups, looks slow out of his breaks... here is where I hope someone like Oliver falls.
4. TE Josh Oliver 6'5" 250 San Jose State Not used as much as he could have been, but an ex-basket ball forward, a lot of athleticism and you can see the snow boarder with the unique size and balance in the film.
4. EDGE D'Andre Walker 6'3" 245 Georgia - Looking to groom that guy that can play some edge rushing and perhaps begin to spell Hughes so he can keep that motor going.
5. OT Max Scharping 6'6" Northern Illinois - pretty solid prospect in a draft without a lot of offensive stars. The best thing about Scharping is that he doesn't get a lot of attention which is usually a good thing for o-linemen.
5. CB Iman Marshall 6'0" USC or JoeJuan Williams 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt is an intriguing DB for his size and coverage skills could also project to safety in NFL if he bulks up a bit.
6. DT Chris Slayton 6'4" 309 Syracuse - DT depth and we need to cycle guys in as we will be hurting without Kyle so grabbing 2 interior DTs in this draft.
7. There is rarely a run on punters, but we need one and why not if Mitch is there.
My UFA sleeper is Jalen Hurd - 6'4" 230 WR Baylor - I think the kid has been a bit black-listed because he refused to stay in a RB role for Tennessee and transferred to Baylor to play WR. As a big upright target, the kid was taking a pounding at RB at Tennessee and they would not move him, but he is a naturally gifted athlete and pretty much was the multi-tool kit offensive weapon for Baylor and no team issues.
He definitely has some rough edges as he just converted to the position not too long ago, but has shown a very fast learning curve with great athleticism and size, and from the RB background he has exceptional RAC.
Will be interesting kid to watch in the senior bowl.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/29/2019-nfl-draft-player-profile-jalen-hurd/
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11 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said:
So is it even certain that Harbaugh is back?
Roman got a raw deal in Buffalo. I still think he’s a good OC. Really has never had a great QB to work with.
He will get the most out of a read-option running QB... Kaepernick, Taylor, and Jackson.
The move makes sense.
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15 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
All in on Hockenson !
Metzelars brother
More Love for Hock - I hope he declares. I saw a few mocks that had NE taking him in the 1st to replace an aging Gronk.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/11/13/t-j-hockenson-the-better-iowa-te-prospect/
Some comparisons being made to another Iowa TE prospect from the class of 2017
George Kittle:
Since Kittle holds a single season record of 1377 rec yards last year - high praise indeed. Iowa keeps producing some good ones.
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30 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Sour grapes...
if he run a bounty program in buffalo they might have beaten his season best 8-8...
why did he wait until nawlins... ??
disapponting
Should add innovator to his resume.
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I hate the post season... we fans have this...
Not flaming the post or OP, but I just want to fast forward to the point where grandpa Brady and NE is dumped unceremoniously from the playoffs (check that off my wish list) and the Bills start making personnel additions or something news worthy.
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I worry about reaching for any offensive player if a better defensive player is available.
My risky player is the TE Fant.
Great athlete with amazing vertical and the size/speed you look for, but Iowa fans felt he took a lot of plays off if they were not going his way, had inconsistent hands, and crumbled to the ground at first contact. Also the coaches there limited his reps quite a bit over the latter half of the year - a lot of speculation that they did not like his effort and blocking and preferred to use T. J. Hockenson as their go-to TE.
Just speculation, but gives me pause. Either way a risky prospect considering there are some other TEs in this draft with less question marks.
Whatever receivers the Bills are interested in, they should have them catch from a jugs machine set as high as it can go to see if they can hold onto the ball.
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I think there is even a problem with the replays that go back to their league office, as they have overruled some on the field calls (like the KB touchdown in our 1st game against NE) where there was no video evidence to the contrary. Then alleged video review upheld a rushing TD (our 2nd game in NE) where it was clear that the NE RB was down and the ball did not cross the goal line.
It boggles the mind and even retired referees who are now commentators have lamented that they are ruining the game.
It also does not help that they police themselves and tell all the fans that they are awesome and get most all the calls they make correct. They do not even touch the fact that sure you can call a hold and it can be enough to be the correct call, but are you balanced and calling it the same for both teams. If not, it is not a good call, it is a call that should not be made.
The league officiating website has a web page devoted to "these-officials-are-really-good" - they are just so professional....
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8 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
Imagine if the Patriots had an offensive minded head coach instead of a defensive minded head coach: Brady's development never would have been stunted with all the OC changes through the years.
NE is a bit of an anomaly in this evaluation.
There was a time that Tom Brady needed a lot of help understanding defenses and having plays called for him.....that was over a decade ago.
Like Peyton Manning, there is a point when a savvy veteran QB is like having a second OC - just one that changes the play at the line and handles the football.
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Love the overt use of LAMP: to um.... LAMP your post...well played sir!
Come to think of it, why don't we have lamp emoji tag for posts, save folks the time and bother of typing all 4 of those letters whenever I start a topic.
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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Let's not pretend this was some off radar prospect............there were draft observers projecting him as a first rounder after an amazing performance at the combine.
He left Arkansas early because he was being told he was going to be moved from TE to OT and drafted early.
An Arkansas staff that rarely threw him the ball and yet was bitter about his early departure talked him down to teams. They said don't trust this guy because he wasn't willing to wait for his turn to be a bigger part of the offense........and hey, he's working out harder in the draft process than he did at Arkansas!(even though he was AT ARKANSAS working out with teammates and not off at some agent sponsored training facility).
So he got the short end by the system..........instead of possibly getting a $10M+ signing bonus and 6 year contract that it's obvious now that his ability warranted.......he became a UDFA.
Everyone knew he was the best athlete of the OT group in that draft..........he proved that........it's not like someone found him.
So he agreed to sign with the Bills as a UDFA and the Bills hardly used him in preseason........not letting tape get out of his play.......and then CUT him with intent to stash him on the PS.
Yep.......they actually cut the future HOF LT..........and Peters actually visited the Giants before joining the Bills practice squad and quickly earning his way onto the roster and just dominating the man in front of him.
He even became probably the largest man to ever block a punt that year. Just a total freak athlete at that size.
A little a year over later they coyly signed him to a RT level contract and then quickly moved him to LT.
It's not like this dude slowly developed.........he was probably the best RT in football in his SECOND season..........and finished his THIRD season as the league's best LT.
At each step in the college and draft process people were trying to put the brakes on his ascension..........it's easy to see why he got frustrated.
Then he got to Philly and a smart staff paid him and whaddya know..........turns out he's viewed as not only a great player but a great teammate.
As Andy Reid went on to say.........he was the "Peyton Manning" of offensive lineman.
So everyone knew he was the best OT in the draft, yet every team let him slide and then let the Bills pick him up as an UFA???
It was not that he played TE for 2 years at Arkansas after being recruited as a defensive tackle and sitting out his freshman year as a reserve defensive linemen, and then entering the draft as an offensive lineman sans any actual experience as an offensive lineman that threw teams off?
Could it be that he was just too flexible in regards to playing different positions that no teams knew how they would use him? I wont argue that Peters was an athletic freak and phenom, but he was a misfit too....at least early on. If he was all that and a known commodity from the get-go the Bills would not have been able to both cut him and stash him on their practice squad without some other team grabbing him.
Rather than our slanted fan history that Peters had HOF Left Tackle printed on his undrafted FA packing slip, and that there was some conspiracy to keep the man down we could disagree forever...
Or we could take Jason Peters own take at the time of the events.
"Sometimes you can be too versatile that they can't find a spot for you, but I kept pushing," said Peters, the first Bills offensive lineman since Ruben Brown in 2003, and first offensive tackle since Howard Ballard in 1993, to be headed to the Pro Bowl. "I just go out and try to get better than I was the day before."
That's when Peters asked former head coach Mike Mularkey to "put me in a spot and keep me there."
You can read the whole interview prior to his pro-bowl here:
Did the Bills mishandle it, in hindsight of course they did...they should never have tied up the money they did into Williams who ate himself off the team, then Dockery and Walker in free agency, and Mike Gandy was not their answer at LT. They threw good money at middling to bad prospects and likely left little room for the emergence of Peters...
At the time of Peters rather obvious unhappiness with his pay a lot of teams were interested in him. A disgruntled young pro-bowl Left Tackle, who wouldn't be? But not many could afford what Philly eventually agreed to pay. So it is fair to say that a lot of teams (not just the Bills) missed out on the services of Jason Peters.
There is a lesson there if the Bills dive into FA o-linemen market this off season to not tie up so much of your cap that you cannot do right by the young players they are developing today.
Since this thread seems to be devoted to the perfect clarity of hindsight - nice article on former Bills players and coaches represented in this years post season. As most things in life there are moves OBD has done past and fairly present that appear to be good moves (Kelvin Benjamin, Sammy Watkins) and then there are players and coaches that have found success elsewhere (they include Peters).
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16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Correction: Prevent SHOULDN'T allow the WR to get behind the D. But sometimes it does. And what makes more sense - letting the opponent knock on your door in the red zone, or keeping them on the wrong side of the 50?
I understand your point about how Prevent D is supposed to work, when it works. My counterpoint is here is a team, sitting on a nice comfortable lead in part because their D played "nasty" and throttled the opponent. So instead of "dancing with the one who brung ya", you switch to a D that might not fire on all cylinders. And when it doesn't, well Hey, now the difference between garbage time and a comeback for the bad guys can be miiiiighty thin.
Totally agree - and the other problem with prevent-type defenses is if they switch to a passive zone. Most competent QBs and receivers know how to find the soft spots in zone coverage and often those soft spots allow receivers a shot at getting out of bounds and stopping the clock. Most of your patient veteran QBs will eat that situation up to march their team down the field into scoring position.
If you are pressuring a QB into making poor decisions, why let up and let him gather himself and get into a rhythm?
Offenses practice what they will do for their 2-minute drills so some DCs react to that up-tempo situation. I think defenses are better served sticking to what has worked for them, and keeping the pressure on the QBs. If they go empty backfield, just use the defense you employed to stop that during the game, with an understanding that you do not want to give up the sidelines to stop the clock, but that should not take precedence over simply preventing the completion from happening in the first place via QB pressure and successful man coverage.
Probably over-simplifying it, but I have seen a lot of great defensive efforts flushed over the final 2-minutes of a game when a defense stops being aggressive and lays off the gas.
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For the position he played he was dominant, but that position rarely gets the accolades as the stats are not kept for plugging gaps and such, not like sacks and number of tackles. Trying to think of a more overlooked position in football where if you do your job the right way, others are successful - maybe fullback?
Was going to answer that the NFL would have to build an addition in Canton big enough to fit Ted into.... (insert deadpan drum sound here)
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47 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
They certainly were cheap.
You missed the point. Peters signed a contract for RT money and then agreed to play LT a few games later at which he excelled the rest of the year. Which opened the door for Peters to have a big payday here or elsewhere - once the terms of the contract he signed was fulfilled.
Can you blame the guy for then wanting LT money? No, but I blame him for pouting and dragging a$$ the last few years of the contract he signed and he would never have had the shot to get LT money if it were not for the Bills coaching him up and trying him at the position.
Fixed.
Peters also took on the infamous negotiation-killer Eugene Parker as an agent. I don't buy the whole honorable wanted-to-be-here BS. Actions speak louder than words, and Peters actions to me were simply self-serving. Do I blame players for looking out for number one, not in the least, but lets not turn them into some kind of martyrs.
He went after the LT money and did not want to wait for the contract he signed to be fulfilled - is what it is. Would Buffalo had been wise to renegotiate his contract, tough to say as it would have opened the door to the same happening to any of their players who excelled at the positions they were in. Hindsight being 20/20 they could have just left him at RT and tried him out at LT the final year of his contract to avoid the whole allure of LT money.
On another note I read an article that indicated that the gap between LT pay and the rest of the o-line is shrinking. I think for a time the advent of premier blind-side pass rushers (for right handed QBs) made the LT spot worth every dime, but more teams are rushing from either side and have complex blitzes and stunts to attack the middle. It is getting harder to hide the weak links.
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How long to close the competitive gap?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by WideNine
I agree with this, but you can't have a team that has a lot of money tied to players who are not getting it done either, or the next guy just has to blow up the roster to get some compete back on the field. When I say not getting it done, I am not talking scheme but rather physically getting beat on the field.
That is why the handling of McCoy has me baffled... I like some of the moves by McBeane to clear cap and jettison big-salary under-performers, or guys that just cant stay healthy, but although I like McCoy I do believe his best days are in the rear view. Would have liked to keep Woods, but all indications were that he wanted out.
Would've liked to have kept Glenn, but the Bills also would not have been able to move up and take one of the better QB's I have seen in a long while .... wearing a Bills uniform that is. Hoping there is a lot less of that and more building and maintaining a good core.
I also don't believe in the scheme coaches who can't adapt... to be competitive year after year with FA, injuries, and roster turnover a good coach has to be able to find ways to get the most out of the players they have.
That was one of the under-appreciated aspects of Wade Phillips time here as he crafted defenses that fit his players...I remember when injuries decimated our linebacker depth, Wade looked and saw we had more than enough healthy d-linemen and switched his base 3-4 to a 4-3 and still fielded a dominant group. He was praised at each of his other stops for molding the best scheme for the players he has.
“I don’t understand the people that say, ‘Hey, this is our scheme, and that guy can’t play in it. The guy can play, he’s a good player, but he can’t play in our scheme,' " Phillips said.
“Well, to me. There’s something wrong with your scheme.”