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5 hours ago, Veneno said:
This dude here is probably the biggest homer I seen on the internet. Darnolds had more TD than INT and almost hit 60% as a rookie. Allen barely hit the 50% throwing more INT than TD. Allen is great RB and a terrible passer and if you dont see it, you are a homer. Darnolds pocket awareness and progression is light and day compare to Allen. Look up Parcells's famous phrase "you are what your record say you are" and stop making excuse.
Who is this Darnolds you speak of?
2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:You seem slow
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15 hours ago, MJS said:
Anyone who actually watches the kid can see he has the potential to be a good QB.
The question we all ask ourselves is whether or not he will realize that potential.
But I do not have a problem with his accuracy. I saw him make many wow throws and very accurate throws throughout the year. I know he has the ability to be very accurate. As he progresses in fundamentals, experience, etc. I have no doubt the narrative of his accuracy issues will go away.
There are a lot of folks and the media that would prefer that the Bills stay in the cellar, same with the Browns. I think both organizations have found their guy to build around and it is about time.
What surprised me watching the clips (outside of the obvious mugging of our receivers) was how little separation that group was getting, and how the allegedly inaccurate Allen was putting the ball time and time again where only the Bills receiver had the chance to make a play on the ball. Usually with the pocket collapsing around him and Allen scrambling to avoid defenders.
Also can't get over how he can throw so many accurate passes from so many bad platforms. He rarely has time to set and step into throws, can't imagine too many of his passes being off if our line gives him more time next year to step into his throws. Of course it would help if they could also pick up a player or two who can get open AND catch the ball.
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I like this move - was surprised to learn that the Colts released their O-Line coach Dave DeGuglielmo after the turn around for that unit.
Seems like a good move to grab his assistant.
BTW the Bills rushing yards from 2010-2011 was 3,641.
If nothing else this guy has been around some successful coaches who have turned around poor units and deserves a shot at the spot.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
My biggest question on this surrounds the hiring of the WR coaches the past 2 years, both only lasted one. Maybe has to do with OC change though.
I think Culley probably gives them some luxury there as he has been a WR positional coach many times in his career.
Will be interesting to see who they bring in if they fill the vacancy and if that guy has a Culley connection.
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1 hour ago, Mat68 said:
I was thinking about something to say vs all the assumed Carolina connection. But I know nothing about the guy and who here really knows anything in regards to who is a good position coach?
Special Teams is not a position coach, but I get your point.
I find it odd how so many folks get their undies in a twist from simply asking why this guy?
You can look at the rankings of the Special Teams established coaches who have coached over the years...
From there you can see if their ST's suck more often than they are competitive.
There is nothing to review for this hire as this would be his first gig as a ST coach (was an assistant his one year with the Panthers).
Everyone has got to start somewhere.
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54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I know there were other Carolina players, as expected (you actually missed a few) but I was referring to actual frustration over the outcome which I believe is largely tied to KB.
True but he coached there only one year and they didn’t play every game at home in Charlotte . He played ST in Seattle and in the nfc north for a long time! I think he is pretty familiar with ST in weather conditions.
No one is trashing the hire, just questioning how thorough the positional hiring process is at OBD - if anything, I usually trend towards giving the new Bills regime the benefit of the doubt.
Outside of leaning on connections in the Panthers org, it would be a curious thing that they hired a guy whose coaching resume is tissue-thin with one whole year as an assistant ST coach with the Panthers. It is fair to want to look under the hood and better understand how they landed on that guy - you kind of have to assume someone in the Panthers org told McBeane that this guy was worth giving a shot.
That does not mean he will fail, but if he does - the question is going to be asked again later by the media and everyone else.
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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:
Probably their own opinion after evaluating his work and interviewing him
You think?
I hope this is the case, but what I have seen in life is that is more often who you know that what you know when it comes to getting hired.
I had some other guys in mind so I am a bit bummed. The Panthers were middle of the pack playing in a nice balmy Charlotte location half the time, our conditions in B-lo are a bit more challenging, but I am open to being convinced he is a diamond in the rough.
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6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
How could it be if they never worked with him
Fair point - did not note the hiring date when they went to work for the Panthers and forgot they flushed Koeter so that explains why he was available.
It is also fair to acknowledge that there has to be some FO connections still with Carolina, or a degree of organizational cronyism or this guy who (as you pointed out, the McBeane has not worked with, who has a minimal NFL coaching resume) would not have floated to the top.
Not saying he is going to suck, just wondering what they based this hire on, or more likely who's opinion.
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I hope I am wrong, but the Bills also seem to scheme a lot of their defense around pass rush and defensive linemen occupying blockers to create gaps to free up stunts and blitzes.
Where we absolutely were hurting is getting any push from our DTs to stop runners before they got a good head of steam hitting those open gaps and rolling over/dragging guys in our secondary +5 yards a carry. Star may be doing exactly what they are asking of him, but we need some defensive interior linemen that can be disruptive and play on the other side of the LOS, or to better scheme our run defense (probably a bit of both and perhaps they expect our linebackers to be more successful with their run-blitzes).
Just thinking out loud folks... nothing to see here.
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47 minutes ago, Virgil said:
They know there are other teams in the league to choose from, right?
You hope it isn't cronyism...
I would have preferred they interviewed Boyer, but I cannot say for sure that they did not have Boyer in their sights as their preferred target.
Boyer just recently signed (the 13th) an extension to stay on with the Jets under the new regime, and we do not know who he turned down or when before he made that decision.
Only a few days after Boyer made that announcement we see this move. Maybe the timing is not coincidence, but rather a plan "B". The only thing I am sure of is if he was their #1 choice there was no need to wait this long to make the move unless Heath had reservations about taking the role.
A lot of folks here beg for fresh faces in the coaching ranks - they are getting their wish.
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22 hours ago, Scorp83 said:
Sure.
So Ronald Wayne was the co founder for Apple with Steve Jobs & Wozniak.... he sold his 10% Share (which is worth $100 Billion right now) for $800 ... Jeremy & Howard were comparing it to the Bill's situation.
"We pretty much sold our 10% share of Pat Mahomes for $800 & a good cornerback"
But it's more to it then just that, its mainly how good does Allen has to be for the decision to be justified?
They're saying "he needs to be in the discussion of top 5...if Allen tops out as a top 12 QB...then the Bills have fallen short"
Ugh - so this is another disguised thread dedicated to Ma-homees that cannot go a day without pining for the guy?
The Bills and 30 other teams missed taking him... time to move on folks, you are drifting into the stalker zone.
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Just means the Pats are gearing up to ***** up some TE's in this deep draft.
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4 hours ago, PUNT750 said:
Did you see that man against the Chargers? He mauled safeties, defensive ends and corner backs with great BLOCKING! Not holding or brush blocks but tough, solid, smack down blocking. And, he can make catches in tight coverage.
Is it that difficult to find a player in the draft who can do the same? Maybe a smaller tackle? Maybe a large Wide Receiver? They have to want to BLOCK and BLOCK more! A pretty-boy TE with great speed is nice but not the real answer for the BILLS!
Iowa is producing some really good ones... as their OC was NE assistant OC and TE's coach.
San Fran's George Kittle is a product:
Drafted in 2017: in 2018 he had 1377 yards which broke the single season receiving record for TE's and got a pro-bowl invite.
It is rumored that the Iowa coaching staff sat Noah Fant as talented as he was because he didn't like to block and they saw a more complete talent in T. J. Hockenson. The kid is good - catches everything and does not mind blocking.
T. J. Hockenson declared for the NFL draft today.
From a 2017 article:
Hockenson watches a lot of film of the New England Patriots’ Rob Gronkowski, today's preeminent tight end in the NFL. Most think of Gronkowski as a pass-catching phenom; but Hockenson notes the reason “Gronk” is so proficient is because of his blocking skills.
Hockenson is not yet an NFL-level tight end. But no doubt, Hockenson is off to a great start. And he has all the tools — the dedication, size, strength and hands — to get there ... while perhaps becoming a sneaky-dominant force for the 2018 Hawkeyes.
“If the kid stays healthy, he’s going to get to play at the next level. And we’ll get to watch him on Sundays,” Smyser says. “I think he’s that good. And how he fits into that Iowa program, they make tight ends great.
There are a few mocks that have NE taking him in the 1st as Gronk v2.0. I would rather see him in a Bills uniform.
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8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:
Can't disagree with this at all. I was never a fan of the Glenn trade. I understood it to an extent but stacking talent isn't a bad thing when you could have a starting tackle on a rookie contract.
The only way I'd be really disappointed with Dawkins, and the staff is if they had to move him inside to guard after trading away a tackle. It'll be just us chasing a tackle all over again.
Dawkins originally was projected as a guard or right tackle, if they picked up another LT in the draft who could also play guard you have flexibility on that left side in case of injuries.... I don't want them to "chase" any position, but more depth on the left side would not hurt.
The Glenn trade also allowed them to move up and take Allen.
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3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:
You're referring to strength, which is part of athleticism. Kind of like a Big Ben. It's also been said that Tom Brady is the most elusive QB in the NFL because he's so adept as sliding around perfectly in the pocket to find the right launch spot. I guess it depends on your definition of athleticism.
Tom Brady usually has a pocket to slide around in...like a nice safe kiddy pool surrounded by the best o-line.
Josh's pocket is more like getting a single coat of saran wrap then being dropped into a shark tank.
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3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:
He made a year long mistake. His quotes are worse than the crime to me. You can have a down year, but it sounds like he gets easily complacent. As a professional athlete, that can't happen, in my opinion.
I hear you, but would like to see what a position change and different coaching does for him.
O-linemen are a strange breed. The right coach and they will run through a wall...does not mean that a coach has to be buddies with them, more often than not that kind of relationship with players is too familiar and does not translate to better development or play on the field.
Even considering the steps Dawkins took backwards, he was still the best o-linemen we had out there last year. I also think it helps to have players pushing for your spot - so who was pushing Dawkins with Glenn gone? There is a reason he got complacent and comfortable with his friendly coach and less than competitive UFA o-line peers.
They gave Foster another chance to turn it around...sometimes 2nd chances works if the conditions change.
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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:
He should feel like he’s on the hot seat. He sucked this year. I hope we draft a starting tackle and sign a starting tackle while moving him to guard.
He's young and made a mistake - it happens. That being said, i don't know if watching Juan taking the fall is a learning experience.
The Bills should draft someone who can play LT and move him to guard...if nothing else, it sends the right message about work ethic and may light a fire under him.
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4 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:
Yeah I have a hard time guaging exactly how much FA dough we really have. I kind of see it at this point.. given the money everybody else has in the market as well, and relative lack of bank breaking FAs, that we'll really be in a position to throw money pretty indiscriminately at every position for any player willing to play in Buffalo. Can't imagine how much a dent even like 5 OL signings would do to our cap.
Maybe I'm wrong there. Anyways I can't imagine Eifert would command a ton either ($8M per max?? One good year of production with a TE happy QB and injury prone, just not seeing an expensive player really) so I'm lumping him in that.. another pass catcher to throw money at indiscriminately group. I think we can pretty much throw as much as we want towards all OL and pass catchers
Even with the space I want to be sure the Bills keep enough reserves to sign some of the young guys they are grooming.
I am sick of the Bills being the NFL farm team that gets players to the pro-bowl only to have them finish their careers elsewhere. We can't keep everyone from jumping. but it would be nice to be more competitive keeping our home-grown talent.
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3 hours ago, MJS said:
Surprising for sure, but I never felt like Hackett was the issue here.
I used to argue it was Hackett and not EJ - a lot.
Took the shock of hearing from some Bills players that EJ could not learn the playbook and that the coaches had to keep dumbing everything down to reading half the field for me to leap off the bandwagon.
We will see what he can do sans Marrone and shoddy QB's.
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6 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:
Yeah Eifert's a top 10 TE talent but as injury prone as they get. Again we have all this money to spend on FA though getting depth on these types of players doesn't hurt on short term flyer contracts.
Mind you I don't want a ton of these types, but I'd do it. Eifert and a drafted TE, or another younger healthy FA type for more reliability next to a clear talent is fine by me.
I just want to see depth. Get these guys wherever, whenever. There's really no position on this roster outside QB I wouldn't fill up with best FA value possible. Just load up the roster with good vet depth. Everywhere. Would be a very good compliment to the younguns. We're sorely lacking in veteran depth, which is why I don't mind keeping these guys if money is not an issue.
I'd prefer quantity over a handful of marquee FAs (although I'd love some at certain positions). Their deals will keep us flexible come time to re-sign our guys. And really I just see a need for vets to add depth, a healthy mix of experience for the youth movement, and getting us back to an NFL quality roster that has no reason not going 8-8. We severely lack in depth and this money should be a quick fix to go into next year without just some horrible positional talent on paper next year.
Easy fix to end the blowouts and get the younguns to see themselves competing in every game. Totally fine with say 8 games of Eifert. I just don't want a ton of Eiferts
I think Eifert will be looking for $$, but if he comes down to earth and is willing to take an incentive-laden short term "prove you can still get it done" contract then sure.
I like the idea of more veterans on the o-line, that group IMO more than most others benefits the most from having a few guys who have "been there done that" to balance the youth you are coaching up.
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24 minutes ago, klos63 said:
I always felt it was bad timing for Philbin, during the interview process for the Dolphins job, his son fell through ice and drowned. I could never understand how he was able to put the energy required for that job while he must have been totally devastated. I always felt bad for him every time I saw him on the sidelines.
Yeah, lost his son after getting the Packers to a 15-1 season as their OC. Talk about coming down to earth - I get why a change of scenery was needed taking the Miami job.
The Bills could do far worse I think.
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6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:
Clay had over 500 yards receiving 3 straight season prior to 2018. What happened? I would have no problem keeping him around as depth, but not Shady. Loved McCoy, but when it's over for a RB, it happens quickly. It's over.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Clay have a solid season elsewhere if we cut him loose. Shady, not so much.
This happened (below)
And then 2018 season out again with a pulled hammy for pretty much all of November. Croom started coming on and why waste reps on a player on the downside; Who is injured a lot, and can't stay on the field, and whose injuries have made him less effective? Not faulting Clay for getting injured, but it is what it is.
This is the same reason, or close enough to why I don't like Eifert as a FA pickup, he may have the juice when he is healthy and on the field, but that is not as often as it needs to be to be sure to get your bang for your buck.
Oct 8, 2017 NFL Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2 Clay missed 3 games. Oct 8, 2017 NFL Knee Meniscus Tear Clay had surgery after injuring his left knee in Week 5. He suffered a meniscus tear and MCL sprain on the same hit. Sep 11, 2016 NFL Knee Strain Grade 1 Clay strained his right knee and battled soreness all season, ultimately missing 1 game. May 24, 2016 NFL Back Lower Lumbar Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Clay was treated for a lingering lower back injury throughout the offseason. Dec 13, 2015 NFL Back Lower Lumbar Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Clay missed the final 3 games of 2015. Nov 19, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Clay pulled his right hamstring at practice and missed the next 2 games. Aug 2, 2014 NFL Knee Strain Grade 1 Clay was held out of practice until August 18. Dec 16, 2012 NFL Knee Meniscus Tear Clay tore his meniscus in Week 15 and was placed on IR. Aug 25, 2011 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Clay strained his right hamstring in August. He missed 2 regular season games. -
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All watching that did at first was piss me off as I watched play after play where Miller and Mills slowly evolved out of their stances, managed to get tangled up with each other blocking/holding the same guy while other pass rushers blew by them.
Miller was horrifying, and at least Boettger when they finally made the switch seemed to lock onto his guy, moved his feet, and sometimes got some push which allowed Mills to focus solely on not getting beat on the outside every play. Against the Fins (I know - the run for the bus was on) they almost looked respectable in pass-pro.
The kid grew over the season with the playing time he received, needs a bit more support around him to really shine and settle into his role but I think we have a keeper.
Are the Bills the Ronald Wayne of the NFL?
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My bad... I should not have said anything and just moved on to discussions that interest me more.
I like to focus on the Bills future, rather than the Chiefs, it's a broad football forum so post what you want.
Honestly, it is all good.