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On 5/23/2021 at 1:58 AM, Victory Formation said:
And if Etienne does end up being a Christian McCafferry talent, do you pay a RB $16M/yr when it comes to their second contract?
U pay him no prb. U don't take a player in the draft worrying about what your gonna have to pay him in his 2nd contract and if u knew u would have to pay him top dollar it makes that much more sense to select him no matter the position they play.
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4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
He'd be what Lorenzo Alexander was for McDermott. It could work.
Please stop the comps please. Lol. I love Lorax but at times he was a complete liability in Mcd scheme. Btw Zaven Collins is not even a average pass rusher I would rather trade bk and select Jabril Cox . JC can cover has blazing speed and will be a stud in the NFL mark my words . He reminds me alot of Dion Jones . Btw we select ZC what makes u think Mcd would use him in this compacity we didn't use Edmunds like that and he's the same type of player Collins is even better coming out of college people said the same things about him that he can rush. Another thing Collins is a little slow for my liking he's gonna get abused to start his career. The NFL is not in Tulsa!
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On 4/23/2021 at 10:18 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
Am I the only one who was confused about Orlando Brown? I thought it was the dude that got hit in the eye with the flag. Then, I just googled him, and this is his son. I guess both father and son were OT’s for the ravens.
He's the guy that his man tities were flying all over the place during his 40 at the combine. He dropped to the 3rd I believe and has made everyone look foolish for not drafting were he was originally supposed to go in the 1st.
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Can anyone hear say it with me THE CAP IS A JOKE! Good job Chiefs attacking your weaknesses once again. Show our guys running our team that continuity isn't everything unless you continue to get your butts kicked by the same team over and over again. Which btw is coming once again .
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17 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
I prefer Elijah Moore if we’re taking a slot WR at 30. I think we are going to end up with a WR/RB at 30 just because that is where the value is unless someone unexpected slips
I like both Elijah seems like the safer pick with less of a ceiling but a higher floor then Rondale. RM is the boom or bust prospect out of the 2.
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52 minutes ago, H2o said:
Imo, 1-Tech is definitely something that needs to be addressed in this draft. I, myself, have been banging the table for Bobby Brown III from Texas A&M. That's who I want us to draft, but I would be good if McNeil was a selection on day 2. I think those two are good at anchoring as well as being able to push the pocket from the interior. Naquan Jones, Tedarrell Slaton, Tyler Shelvin, Khyiris Tonga, there are options and some quality 1-Tech prospects out there this year.
I love me some McNeil he kind of reminds me of Chris Jones.
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2 minutes ago, H2o said:
McNeil, Shelvin, and Brown are all 1-Tech DT's even though I believe McNeil could play either position. I'm good with that anywhere from Rounds 2-6. I just don't see the need for another 3-Tech, especially in the 1st.
I don't see the need either but if McBeane sees a stud at a spot why not take him. DT1 might be a sneaky need who really knows how good Star will be this yr plus it won't hurt to get better there that's what BPA is all about like Mcd says Iron sharpens Iron!
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On 4/20/2021 at 3:56 PM, H2o said:
This would be stupid. Taking another 3-Tech in the 1st Round two years after Oliver? But if they are there and considered the team's BPA, what do you do? I'd hate it. Barmore wouldn't be too terrible, but Onwuzurike? Yeah, nah.
Onwuzurike to me is much better prospect and player then Barmore. I'm not In love with the idea of either one in the first because the position to me is loaded in middle rds with talented players like McNeil, Shelvin, Brown, Twyman and others that have great development potential.
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On 4/16/2021 at 1:34 AM, NewEra said:
McD, Frazier and Beane have equal responsibility regarding the success of our D. It’s not just the GM. Coaching is just as important. Some games our D has a great game plan. Some games it’s terrible. The D needs an upgrade at some defensive positions and it also needs better coaching at times
Also I hope we can tweak the scheme a little this yr . Mcd doesn't call alot of stunts or twists nor do we ever use any wide 9 formations on obvious passing downs.
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On 4/16/2021 at 12:53 AM, FireChans said:
Honestly, it's kind of shocking how much worse his defensive acquisitions have been compared to Sean.
Who are our best defenders currently on the roster?
Poyer
Hyde
Tre
Milano
Jerry
Do you notice something? 4 of those players were acquired by McD without the McBeane. Jerry was obviously already here.
Compare it to the list of hacks that Beane has acquired. I'd type out all the bums and disappointments but it'd take too long.
All I know is if you eliminate the 2017 fellas, our defense would be the worst in the NFL. If you eliminate Beane's JAG brigade, eh, we'd be okay.
Is it time for McD to make the picks again? Beane got the QB, let's thank him for his service and let's put the King of William and Mary back in the Kirk chair.
I seen Jim Minos on Buffalo Fanatics podcast on youtube he said 2017 was a total team effort with the final say with Mcd . Whaley and his staff scouted the players brought Mcd and his staff the players that fit there schemes. I'm pretty sure Beane operates the same way.
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21 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
The difference would be that Houston actually got 8 sacks last year and Addison...didn't
More than 6 sacks were expected of each of them, based upon historical production.
Addison previous years: 9.5, 11, 9, 9.5
Houston previous years: 4*, 9.5, 9, 11
QB hits:
Addison previous years: 15, 15, 12, 14
Houston previous years: 6*, 20, 12, 18
* Houston was injured, played 5 games
You don't offer a guy $12M a year (Houston) or even 3 years, $30M (Addison) for 6 sack production.
I believe part of the prb is Mcd scheme when it comes to the Dline it's pretty vanilla. U don't see many stunts, twists, Slants & we never use wide 9 alignments.
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This was the perfect off-season to rebuild the Dline and contracts that were handed out weren't bad at all. We needed to rebuild the edges of our defense I know it's not the popular opinion but I would've even cut Hughes as well as Star , Addison , Butler & Jefferson basically everyone except for Harry, Oliver, Epenesa and Zimmer
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On 4/3/2021 at 12:09 AM, LeGOATski said:
Draft picks are never a win-now scenario. They're 4-5 year investments. If you're looking for a win-now move, you sign a known commodity in FA to a big contract.
I agree plus we got to get ready for Josh to get his big money . The best teams that usually draft late in the first usually go pure BPA. If u have a CB ranked 41st on the big board & a WR or RB ranked in the 20s u take that higher ranked player. Moving forward the draft is emensly important can't take any risks to fill so called needs.
The best case scenario is a DE or CB that's rated very highly on our board falls to us but I can't see that happening especially at DE it's a poor yr for that position and at CB maybe Farley falls to us or to a lesser degree Newsome. Either way we go BPA more times then not were going to hit on that pk.
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13 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I havent done any deeper film study (and probably wouldnt know what to look for even if I tried), but Harry looked like he had his best 1-tech game ever in the playoff game against Baltimore. Fingers crossed that the light finally came on for him there.
Even so, we still need to draft another to prepare for Star leaving next year.
I don't know exactly where i read this but towards the end of the season the last 7 gms or so Harrison was the #2 DT in the NFL against the run according to PFF . I'm pretty sure it was trending on twitter.
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52 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
Sometimes trade-ups are the best move. Sometimes a trade-down is better. Sometimes it's better to stay put.
Each situation is different, depending on how a GM has players ranked, team need, overall value on the board, positional depth of the prospect class, what trade offers are available, etc., etc., etc.
As you mentioned, the best draft move the Bills have made in the last 30+ years (if not ever) was trading up for Josh Allen.
We also got a starting Left Tackle in Dion Dawkins in a draft day trade-up, just before Brandon Beane arrived on the scene.
You can find other examples all across the NFL of trade-ups that worked out great.
It's way too easy to look back years later with 20/20 vision and find late round picks who we "could" have taken. GMs can only go by their own scouting and rankings at the time. We needed a MLB for this defense, and our scouting department LOVED the potential for Tremaine Edmunds. At that time, nobody had Fred Werner close to the same tier, and Dareus Leonard plays on the weakside (like Matt Milano). The simple fact was... if they wanted Edmunds, they probably needed to make the trade-up to get him.
Going into the offseason, I felt like the Bills needed to to upgrade their pass rush and secondary in order to compete with Kansas City. They did virtually nothing to address either position in Free Agency. So while I'm a believer in BPA and agree that we shouldn't get desperate in the draft - it would be very disappointing for me to see us walk out of the draft without a DE and CB in the first three rounds. Our overall roster is extremely deep and it will be tough for late-round draft selections to actually make the roster. So depending on how the board falls, I think a trade-up may be the smartest move. If someone like Kwity Paye, Jaelen Phillips, Caleb Farley or Jaycee Horn make it to around #20 (where we could get up for a mid-round pick), then I think Beane should strongly consider it.
Dion Dawkins wasn't a faller though I was speaking in terms of trading up for a player that's fallen on the board. There's usually a reason they have fallen but then again not all situations are the same.
1 minute ago, BillsFan1988 said:Dion Dawkins wasn't a faller though I was speaking in terms of trading up for a player that's fallen on the board. There's usually a reason they have fallen but then again not all situations are the same.
Phillips I would not at all entertain moving up for he's already a big risk with his concussion history .
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33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Beane didn’t trade up for moss and wasn’t even here when Zay was drafted
My bad he tried to trade up for Moss and Mcd traded up for Zay in a strong Wr class . I believe they did that because of the Wr coach we hired from East Carolina but still just shows u sometimes familiarity doesn't work. I'm not trying to say our front office is bad or anything like that just making an example of how trading up doesn't work.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I have Melifonwu as a mega reach at #30. It would genuinely be wall punching time. Campbell would be a reach but a less agregious one.
I agree mof I don't think there's much of a drop off from the CBs in the 2nd or even 3rd rd. Mcd is great at developing talent in the secondary we can wait for a Campbell, Odebo, or Trill Williams type .
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8 hours ago, scuba guy said:
Thanks op
I think also what this shows is really how great the gm from the ravens was.
Newsome always picked late in the draft most years and hitting on your first pick that late in the draft is not as easy as it looks. STUDY YOUR FILM AND GO WITH YOU GUT FEELING.
This is why Billy boy drafts really stink.
As others have said bean really needs to hit this draft most players drafted might not see the field much this year but are all about our future.
Eric DeCosta is a great GM also. He's worked with Newsome the whole time and has taken over and not skipped a beat.
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11 hours ago, mjt328 said:
I've done similar research on multiple sites, and also done multiple draft mocks on both the Draft Network and Pro Football Focus.
Pretty much agree with your assessments.
Personally, I would like the Bills to select either an Edge Rusher or Cornerback with their first pick.
In every case, the Top 3 CBs are long-gone by #30. And if one of the top DEs drops, it's usually Gregory Rousseau (who has dropped huge due to his red flags).
If I'm Brandon Beane, I think the best move would be to watch the board closely on draft night... then either jump up 5 slots or so to get a DE or CB that falls, OR trade back into the top of the 2nd Round and get someone like Asante Samuel Jr.. Then maybe do something similar to move higher with Pick #61, because we are in a similar predicament in that round (just out of reach of the best value guys).
Haven't we learned our lesson about the faller in the draft especially trading up for them. We traded up for Ford, Zay, Edmunds & Moss everyone Beane trades up for hasn't been worth it except for Allen thankfully but he wasn't considered a faller at that point.
Edmunds has made the pro bowl twice he's not a bust but he wasn't worth moving up for in a strong draft for Lbers both Leonard & Warner are much better players then Edmunds and I believe Leonard went in the 2nd rd and Warner in the 3rd . We gave up a 3rd to get Edmunds only to use him at the wrong position he should be a SAM linebacker he doesn't seem to have the instinct to play in the middle always seems like he's a step behind . I really hope this yr he finally figures it out and becomes a beast but as of right now he's the Donte Witner of Lbers.
I'm on team go pure BPA or trade bk no player in this draft is worth trading up for in my opinion especially since the 2nd threw 5th rd seem like there loaded . I'm also not a fan of drafting for need that always seems to backfire more times then not.
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2 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:
Been thinking today, McD could really use a toy for a big nickel hybrid kinda guy. Last year it was Chinn and Dugger. Anybody like that coming out this year? I feel like it was this time last year that the Dugger name was starting to pop up around our team. Anybody got anything?
I loved Chinn during the draft process I was hoping we would take him or Dobbins in the 2nd hopefully Aj can develop this yr and make me forget and these other 2 players.
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1 hour ago, FFadpecr said:
2nd in points (31 PPG) isn't good enough, especially when you're just 1 RB weapon away (ETN) from 37-38 PPG.
Why settle for 30 PPG when you clearly have the potential for 40 PPG? I don't want this offense to be just good, or just great, I want it to be all-time historic. I want 40 PPG.
Adding another RB or WR weapon is more important than CB, DL, and Guard. This is a Passing Offense - the Guards are fine. Add another force multiplier to the skill positions.
You build around your franchise player. Stop overthinking it.
To be honest chasing needs is not what we need . Every team has needs the question is do we have enough difference makers to overcome said needs. At the end of the day it's the difference makers that win the chip.
The Bucs last yr had a average at best secondary but they had the difference making talent in the front 7 to mask that deficiency. The yr before the Chiefs had an average LBer core and Secondary and at best a average Oline but guess what the difference making talent made the difference.
Now when it comes to the Bills we have 3 said Difference makers Allen, Diggs and Tre White we also have a few guys we are relying on to take that next step into being said players like Edmunds and Oliver we also have some borderline guys like Poyer , Dawkins & Hyde . This coming draft we need to try to hit grand slams. Adding ETN & Rondale Moore can get us to the next level on Offense. Yes I said it the next level I know it's crazy to think of but we can get better and score more pts.
On Defense we can still add a couple Vets to Solidify that side of the ball. There's still CBs like Sherman, Heyward and Nelson available and at Dline Clowney, Griffen and Kerrigan are still out there. If we can get a combo of any 2 of these guys for a good price that can go along way to getting us to the Show and winning it all.
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18 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
I think your premise that adding Etienne would increase scoring by a TD per game is questionable. Did KC’s scoring increase by that much when they added Clyde Edwards-Helaire?
CEH was a reach they should of taken Taylor or Dobbins.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I disagree on Newsome. I think he is 100% worth the #30 pick. I agree totally on the other three corners you list, I wouldn't select any of those before round 3. But Newsome is definitely worth it. He won't get to #30 though I don't think. Tyron isn't worth a first and not a second in this scheme either. But Phillips and Rousseau I have higher than Ojulari.
I remain not a big running back in round 1 guy and certainly not Williams. That would be a big reach.
I like Phillips but those concussions are very concerning I wouldn't take him until #61 he probably won't be there but i don't think it's worth the risk at #30. Rousseau didn't test well and I never really liked him to begin with . Ojulari I can't see why u wouldn't like him over these guys he's explosive and plays with some power for his size he got some work to do with his technique but the sky is the limit for him he has potential to be a elite Edge player.
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11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It is not one of my favourite drafts either.
I agree that they are not exactly the same but a 3-4 edge rusher is much closer to a 4-3 edge rusher than they are to an off the ball linebacker in either system.
I hope they go a pure BPA no matter the position other then QB or 3T DT . Everyone talks about positional needs like G/DE/CB but what I really think we need are more difference makers . I prefer the difference makers to be a DE or CB but @30 unless something drastic happens and a player falls to us like Ojulari, Paye or Farley at CB then I don't believe the next Teir of players are worth a late first . CBs like Samuels, Stokes, Melifonwu and Newsome are all 2nd rd pks same for the DEs like Tryon, Phillips (injury concerns) or Rousseau. I don't think it's worth reaching for anyone of these guys it's better if we can trade back and load up on picks.
Now if there's no trade I say take skill position players like ETN, Najee or Williams and then move back up into the high 50s for Rondale Moore . Imagine adding ETN & Rondale Moore to this offense all of a sudden we are one of the fastest elite offenses in the NFL. We go from averaging 31 last yr to 37 this yr. I know many TBD members might not like this but think about it we need to add more speed to this offense we can't expect to roll out basically the same guys as last yr and think we'll automatically net the same results teams will study what we did last yr and be more prepared for us this season. I'm thinking we use a pk next yr and 1 of our 5ths to move up for Rondale and the rest of the draft we can go Defense & Offensive line.
If we take this type of approach we can add a vet Corner and DE after the draft maybe we can get Sherman and Clowney and we can sign a back up Safety like Malik Hooker for cheap. I think with these types of moves we can challenge for a SUPERBOWL title this yr.
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