NoHuddleKelly12

Thanks 26CB. Everything I always loved about #12 while he played is still nothing compared to the type of person he's been off the field since he left the game behind--and has stood down a tougher foe in cancer while doing so.

^^^^^^ This. A lot of us probably felt the same way at the end of camp that the prudent thing would be to have AJ/Nate combo play out the string for this year until the roster would be in a position to actually be competitive around Josh. Then after Nate fell flat and with AJ gone, what exactly were we to do? The selfish part of me also wanted to see him play now too. But definitely have my worries with his health, confidence issues, etc.

Exactly--the dude pulls secondary doubleteams all day, jams at the line AND a trailing linebacker, just because they worry about him ghosting the field. Now we know why Mahomes is a budding superstar

Maybe they are planning to turn Phillips loose on offense?

This was totally called going into the Minnie game, where the the question was, what would the cover story become if the Bills pulled off one of the greatest regular season upsets in their history? Now that they did, but then fell back to earth last week, no surprise that it had nothing to do with Bills' own efforts during that game. I admit I also felt like it could wind up a trap game for Minnesota, but the game itself just felt like Buffalo got after it and whipped them straight up. Zimmer said the same thing after in his postgame presser.

That will = a tall glass of haterade around these parts

Would've been happy to see 8-8 with developmental projects littering the starting roster and cap situation being what it is, although getting there will be tougher sledding than I expected. At this point just want to see key guys stay healthy, and JA/Edmunds to develop their potential in noticeable ? ways. Oh, and can the OC.

(1) Mariota is not a world beater of a QB, combined with (2) we've shown that with the right playcalls on D, we can generate pressure/sacks, and in turn help set the table for turnovers. I am a little worried about additional injury to R. Bush after having to already replace Hyde, so could be a long day for the secondary if MM gets all day to read the field and throw. (3) But also feel like this is a make or break moment for the offense this season, and guys will step up because there is no where to go but up. Hearing all week how this is the worst group of talent ever to put on the charging buffalo (despite what flashes they showed in Minnie), (4) Allen takes a big step forward in his ability to process (no pun intended) quickly and be more decisive with his decisions. Net result? Bills 24-13, without the game ever being really in doubt. Bills win the toss, do the league-wide cliche "coaches cutting edge playbook" move and defer. Mariota designed option run is sniffed out & stuffed for no gain by Murphy to set the tone for the day.

I'll take whatever good news coming out of OBD!

If by solid #3 you mean practice squad sure hands team?

There are definitely glimmers that the D is moving in the right direction again after a disastrous start--all of the draftniks that be, said Edmunds was right there with being a legit 1st round talent/steal where we got him. Let's review at the end of the year

BB's ego dictates that Gordon becomes his next system Randy Moss? Wasn't able to salvage Coleman though.

I feel like making the playoffs last year was totally unexpected (realistically) prior to the start of the season given the coaching/regime change and overall significant roster changes. I don't think you can discount the "lift" it gave the fanbase along the way, and I for one about lost it when we finally got in--and yes, I did contribute $17 to Andy Dalton's foundation also, so there's that.? I do feel like it allowed me to better process what we are going through right now, because it established some sorely needed trust, and I don't think that McBeane ever promised non-stop playoffs during the overall rebuild--I doubt they expected to make the playoffs last year either. We've already gone over the cap dead money situation and unexpected roster hits to start this year ad nauseam, so I didn't expect much from this year to start, other than progress with the foundation itself, and at least you can say the cornerstone pieces of the team (Allen, Edmunds) are in place and will hopefully develop now for future sustained success.

I like this idea too--plays to his strengths of finding an open seam and winning some one-on-one battles as opposed to having to forge his own path at the line, which as we all know, is not his preferred style of play, and hasn't been going anywhere much this year.

My worry (others on this board have also raised this point as well) is that he appeared to over-anticipate "phantom" pressure points where the rollout bail maneuver (as opposed to stepping up in the pocket a couple of steps) because of the overall amount of times that he was either getting hit or facing legit jailbreak pressure in the interior of the line--caused him to abandon his designed drop/release point too early. I think that's what in large part led to a ripple effect/outcome of what you are referencing. Hopefully as he settles in and gains an internal clock more in line with the rhythm of the game, that will be less of an issue (along with better play by everyone else).

Also easier for QB to see in a snowstorm ? This may be a dumb question as I haven’t really thought it through, but whose decision is it as to what the uni scheme/color combos are for any given season? More specifically, if the fans overwhelmingly supported a return to say, the glory year uniform color combos & red helmets, who would be the ultimate decision maker on that?

It’s one thing to come up short if you’re giving it your all every play—being a non factor on purpose with a rookie needing all the cover he can get, absolutely irredeemable to let your bros down like that on the field—might as well Vontae yourself on out of town at that point https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/10/03/sean-mcdermott-kelvin-benjamin-zay-jones-effort-buffalo-bills-offense-wide-receivers/

Great thread/topic, thanks for posting--hopefully the staff actually getting paid to sort through issues like this is burning the midnight oil to make it happen.

Clock is definitely ticking. I feel like I'm solidly behind the regime and have been so from day 1, and won't jump ship over issues that I can see are not totally on them (e.g. career ending injuries, retirements, bad cap room situation from before, etc.) in between some of the good things that have changed from previous administrations (emphasis on accountability, culture, increased draft capital and future financial room for FA's), but I also don't have blinders on, and they can't count on like-minded fans not to turn on them eventually if things don't noticeably trend up over time--this still isn't Cleveland, after all.

I can’t speak for other people. I thought it was a pretty extreme floor that helps to understand just how bad it can get even with a good nucleus in place. That is all.

How that guy has lasted winning 2 games in however many seasons shows that the Browns do not judge their staff on a merit based set of criteria. How else can it be explained? And don’t tell me it’s a talent issue too, because they have consistently had top 5 draft picks and have had wads of cash for FA signings during his tenure. They almost can win now in spite of him, because of this. Mayfield will probably keep Hue there regardless, for the next 10 years though provided he’s at least serviceable. Schedule this year so far has definitely not done us any favors! Also don’t understand how we ended up with such a skewed home/road location differential to start the year from the powers that be.

I feel similarly, but also feel like we’re playing Russian roulette with Allen’s ACLs very week he goes out there with the cupboard so bare in terms of his protection...just have to get him through this year in one piece!

Long overdue recognition. Tip of the cap ? Thurman. Loved collecting his cards that routinely boasted “total yards from scrimmage leader” in his prime

You sir, have offended 80’s playbooks everywhere. Daboll is stirring up his very own special brand of hot sauce, which knows of no similarity to any era that I’m aware of.

I really felt like Richie was a feel-good redemption story with the Bills, and loved what he brought everyday. Definitely what the line needed (needs). However, I also think it’s pretty obvious he has a lot of issues that can’t be blamed on the Bills as an organization. Mental instability that I really hope he gets the treatment for that he needs. This may be a bridge too far, but would it shock anyone if at some point down the road some of that is discovered to have come from a lifetime of playing football, that he is one of the unlucky ones?