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Didnt see that. My bad.

Really? Grossman was 3-3 his first 2 years when he started. OIn some really bad Chi teams. Tell me again how much worse than JP he is again?

Nope, I have been pretty even keeled on him, as I said I would before the season. I am giving him one more chance and as I sai before the season we'll see by about week 10. If he is winning more than losing, and he stops being a major factor in our loses then I will gove him his dues. But....

Debbie Does Dallas, 1-3

Actually at the same point in time, the third quarter when this post was made, the Bills were down 30-0.

Care to tell me which child rapist the right wing is defending? I missed that one.

How's about into the 3rd quarter as this post was made. It was 30-0.

You know , I was curious, but this was Grossmans 12th start in his career and has only played in 13 overall. It was Jp's 13 start and 18 games overall. Wow, what a huge difference. Gross man is 9-3. Losman is 3-10.

Actually go back to what the score was in the 3rd quarter when those stats were taken.

And how do you know what happened in the Jet's game. Al Qb's have this happen to them. This isn't some conspiracy to harm only JP. What makes a Qb good is that they overcome these things, and win games even when their team isn't in sync.

What????? I don't blame JP for this game, but Hasselbeck had only 2 INT's and no fumbles. He also threw for 200 yards. Losman had one td in garbage time. Hasselbeck wasn't even in, because the coach didn't want him hurt during garbage time. Sorry but no, Losman didn't play better.

Relatively. Trying to assign a terrible day to Penningtons first 12 passes while saying Losman was better is like trying to say which smells worse, dog**** or catshit. they both smell real bad and I don't want to step in either.

Yeah how did that go: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20060924_NYJ@BUF

JP was 5/12 with 1 INT and 46 yards on his first 12 passes. So relatively I wouldn't call it better.

Actually his rating was a 34 or so. He was actually worse.

Just wait until the next hurricane, shark attack, Paris Hilton sex video and this will be out of everybodies mind quicker than you can say Paris is a virgin again.

BTW, what was JP's rating today? Just checking. Again ratings do not take into account the competition, fumbles, etc.etc.etc... Don't read too much into them.

Do you remember Losmans first action?

And which thread does it belong in?

Runs one in. Who'd of thunk it?

So we beat the Vikes by 5 for our best week, and lost by 33 in our worst. Does that mean on average we just lose by 28? Or do you divide by 2 and say on average we lose by 14?

And again what have the Bills done. Lost to a patsy team with lots of injuries, and devoid of WR's. Beat a terrible fish team, lost to a poor team in the jets, and beat that Vikings team by 5 (soundly ?????). Again, you can say that about everyteam. But Chicago has taken care of business and not lost close ones. Boring, yeah, but they are winning. They can't pick their ooponents, they just have to win, and they have.

How can you guys even discuss great linebackers without mentioning Wilcox, Nitchskie, Huff, Bill George (wasn't he in the 100 greatest NFL players ever) or Singletary? Heck even Junior Seau is better than Spikes yet he garners no mention. Also, how can anyone say Takeo is better than Jack Ham or Hendricks, these guys are HOFers for a reason. The one thing about the football HOF vs. some of the others is it truely is based upon onfield play and isn't a as much of a populatity contest like others sports.

http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/clickabi...ley.follies.cnn This to me seems to be more of a news media propaganda video. Of course, since it's from your favorite source, you probably wouldn't agree.

Sounds like a good plan to me. Hell raise your's another dollar, lower mine by the same amount.