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You do know you're supposed to get the seat from inside. that way it stays warm.

Problem with those IMHO is what you said on #3. if you have an idiot who uses right before you it sucks. And I believe the majority of people suck, so...... I use the upscale store potties.

While malls usually suck, if you have a more upscale stores, macys, etc they usually have their owns heads, and keep them very clean.

I missed my chance to play at Independance last year. My daughter played there with school and I was going to go early and get out before them, but too busy at work. It's a fairly long drive but hear its nice. What about Mataponni, you try that yet? I hear it's great, but again no time. I don't know how much I'll play elsewhere, I joined the base course this year. Real cheap and now I can walk when I play rather than be forced to use a cart. Might help me lose a few pounds.

or Exxon earned a record amount of money.

5000 people? Just curious did the schools layoff the appropriate amount of teachers this past year since they no longer are needed. Government support staff? Others? Or did they just raise everyone taxes another 10% to cover the loss?

Isn't there a song about Chippewa?

I agree, lets dig him up and lynch him. BTW, where's pinky? She stiff you? Wouldn't surprise me, you're being an idiot.

Aren't you in the Richmond area? Where do you play?

Plus I believe earplugs would be outside influence and not be permitted in golf.

Kelly Thighman (sp??) is that you?

I don't believe I bashed JP in this thread, I gave what I felt was my opinion. Also, go back to Jp first couple of years and you will find plenty of stories of him being elsewhere after the season (one of the biggest was him and Evans not being here for one the camps, but working out together elsewhere, if I remember correct). I am not celebrating TE either. just stating a fact that he bought a house here ASAP and has family living here. Also Trents sister doesn't just live here in season as she is a teacher and can't just take off.

Wow, this is fun. I was thinking that we don't draft a Kicker or Punter with #11 we're going to suck. of course, what do I know, I think our backup QB should be traded.

I think he meant venom.

Nope. Not registered, and rarely vote one party exclusively in an election. I am conservative not republican.

I never swear, you !@#$ing, moronic,sh--head, !@#$ idiot mother !@#$er. Desn't mean you don't trust me. !@#$ you then. May a camel sh-- in your shoe.

No I am Thirdborns conservative personality. Get it right.

It's not, and the comerman is an idiot. In the past Steve would have taken the guys camera and tossed it. It's bull sh-- that these idiot camermen can't contain themselves and have to interfere with these players.

And I disagree with you on a lot of what you said. I went after what seemed to be your kep point. As far as when he bought a house, I don't know the exact closing date, but it seemed to be one of his statements from last year that said he bought into the city by buying a house. As far as spending time in Buffalo, not true. Look around, he was just like Trent in going back t Cali, spending time with Evans elsewhere, like Wisconsin and practicing in the offseason. There is lot of news articles with those details. Hey, that's okay neither was born in Buffalo, I expect them to go see the world, spend time with friends and family from their homes. But people want to get on Trent, and he and his family bought here day one. I just don't remember JP doing that.

A lot of people do, and I don't fault them for that. I also don't really fault JP for trying. I just think the timing of everything was fishy. If he was truly genuine, and I was wrong, then my bad. As far as his on field problems go, he has a good arm, and good "speed" for a QB. He was handled poorly by the team, but at the same time, that doesn't forgive a lot of his fault which IMHO he never overcame. A lot of those were mental mistakes that were just frustrating has hell. His Qb rating was middle of the pack (10-20) for most starting Qb's, but what doesn't get reflected his is propensity to put the ball on the deck. He was putting the ball up for turnover at a rate of almost 2 times per game. That to me is his biggest failing, and maybe it was coaching, and maybe it wasn't. But now entering his 5 season, that's a lot of bad mental issues that have to be overcome. I wish him luck, and root for him if he stays and when he plays. If he is on the team come the first game, I will keep my opinions to myself on him until the end of the season, just like I always do, until the season is over (which means at what point we are out of the playoffs again).

I'll just answer this, since it seems to be the basis for your whole response, but I never said I had any "facts" to support it, I just feel like it was a plan by him to try to win his new contract by buying the house and "organizing" the cleanup. I just find it very fake especially coming in his 4th year. Just seems to me that if he was sold on the city and the people he would have done this long before his "contract season". Timing just seems a little too convient for me. Trent may or may not "live" full time in the Buffalo area, but he did buy a house from day one, and maybe it was only his sister that moved with him. I thought I read the parents moved or were moving East as well. Still seems like he bought, literally into the city and region, day one. Again as I stated above, and will restate now, this is only my feelings and opinions.

Really a country that we pretty much have been keeping in check and bombing since 1991, even under your hero Bill Clinton. A country that was deemed rogue by the UN and was restricted in oil sales and import to basically food and water. A country that was not too long before using WMD's on Iran and it's own people. A country that slaughter 100k's and was known to do that in southern Iraq after the first Gulf war because some of them supported us? You're okay with them teking money from this guy and getting the royal treatment, and then coming back here and supporting him?

Lori, I agree with Bill's opinion of JP. And yeah, I pretty much have never given him a chance. But the biggest thing that I recently don't like about the whole situation is the way it played out the last year. I find a lot of what he has done to be a farce to be honest with you. He was on the Bills for 3 previous seasons, and yet never bought a house here. Never really got involved in the community. Now he goes into last year knowing that he has to win over the team and the city for the big money, and he signs on to a few clean the street programs, and buys a house. Reletivily small investment in Buffalo if it pays off with the megamillion contract. His game at least mentally IMHO never improved and his focus to win over the hearts was disengenious (sp???) if you ask me. I know a lot of folks don't like me stating this opinion, but this is how I feel things went down. Now we have a kid who pretty much has about the same level of skills (different set but playing at the same level), and folks are upset that he isn't in town. Well he and his family already moved here, when he was drafted. they own houses here. They bought into the community from day one, but the "Losman crusaders" get upset that he wanted a couple months away from everything to clear his head. To me that is as much a turnoff for JP as the whole him trying to buy his way into the hearts and minds of the people by signing up to be at a few rallys on cleanup.

On Saddam's dime. Everyones cool with that. Just checking, because me, I look at it as treason.

Buy a new house. Duh...... You guys aren't very smart.