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55 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Would love to see it an offer my perspective. I'll read it if you link it. I've found that the Draft analyses here are defensive in nature however, but don't explain why so few or our draft picks become above-average players much less impact players. Apart from Allen Beane's drafts have produced next to nothing in that regard. It's one thing to produce "starters," but that is meaningless when those starters aren't getting it done. I mean think about it, how many draft "starters" do crappy 4-12 teams have? I'm sure plenty. And then trading away players like Hodgins and Teller ... that merely adds insult to injury.
This is going to be an interesting season. We've generally had easy schedules the past three seasons. This year's is, at least at this point in time, not easy. Per our prior couple of posts, IMO if McD cannot advance at least to the CCG this season, and win the division, then on top of my thinking that it'll be time for a change, I think that there's going to be a whole lot of media and fan opinions supporting that notion as well. It's one thing to slide through a greased-up schedule, win a division filled with QB-less teams for the most part, win an occasional Wild-Card game, but it'll be completely another to prove coaching prowess given this season's schedule.
I mean we're not a crappy 4-12 team drafting starters. We're the 2nd winningest team in the NFL since 2018 drafting various starters for our team - what do you think Hodgins was for the NYG who had no WR? He was a waiver claim that an overachieving team claimed towards the back of waivers because their starters were poor.
That was the narrative going into last year as well... and then we played a Top 10 SOS and went 13-3.
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3 hours ago, Einstein said:
I completely forgot that we scored with 16 seconds left against the Chiefs last year.
Which made me remember that McD & Frazier let the Chiefs get down the field and get a FG for the second year in a row ... this time with 16 seconds left, instead of 13 seconds.
Brutal.Yes, but then Taron Johnson sealed the game with an interception of Mahomes… with 13 seconds left on the clock.
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5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
It was 6 years. 5 at Georgia, one at JUCO.
He majored in football, like 99% of every NFL player. He just didn't get the piece of paper with the "BS in General Studies" on his way out. At least he's not pretending to be a college grad.
None of this is odd.
My apologies great and wise Mr. WEO.
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On 5/18/2023 at 9:36 PM, Mr. WEO said:
Plenty of players enter the league with no diploma. At that level, they aren’t there for the education, but for the exposure that will get them drafted. This has been true for many years. No diploma. Bogus, unearned diploma. There’s no difference. This is suddenly “odd”? It’s how it works.it’s certainly “odd” to consider any of this “a red flag”…
Yeah, plenty enter with no diploma after 3 or 4 years, maybe 5? Not 7. I know they’re not there to play school, they’re forced to go this way if they want to make it to the NFL.
It’s more so that he was there for 175% of the prescribed time to be in college and didn’t have enough credits to graduate? Not really a slight on Bennett, just odd circumstances.
I never considered anything a red flag - I specifically said it was odd.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
What was Cam Newton's degree in? Brady? Lamar Jackson? Jim Kelly?
I don't understand your point.
Did they go to college for 7 years and not receive a diploma?
I don’t think anyone is saying he needs a degree to have success in life, it’s just the fact that 7 years while remaining eligible to play and no degree is a little odd.
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41 minutes ago, NUT said:
He should already be gone, he's the wrong coach for Allen. The Reid-Mahomes combo proves this.
It doesn’t prove anything - it’s not a fact.
It’s one singular instance of a really good offensive coach with a really good QB.
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21 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
Beane put his house up for sale...at a ridiculous up charge of 650k.
Good luck to Mr.Beane trying to get 650k more than what he paid in this housing market at that high end of the market. Only hope is another player or coach buys it.
How do you know it’s his? Creep.
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11 hours ago, NewEra said:
I had to bump this- This is extraordinarily epic imo-
@FilthyBeast hasn’t made a post since. 🤣
I wonder which name he’s been posting under since then. IP checks anyone?
thanks @JGMcD2 👍🏻
thanks @teef
edit: I hadn’t noticed this before (or don’t remember it). I guess he’s probably been banned, hence that being his last post. He logged in in March - but not since. I still find the entire ordeal hilarious. Sorry if I’m just really late to the party 🤣
Need to keep the boards clean of this Filth.
- Your Friendly Neighborhood JGMcD2
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1 hour ago, Einstein said:
That's a great point.
But considering it was a rental and the Broncos were terrible that season, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't care as much about the inter-conference trade.I’m just thinking back to the 2018 draft… we had a deal in place with Denver for Pick #5 so we could draft Josh Allen.
Elway said he’d make the deal as long as his guy wasn’t on the board (Bradley Chubb). I believe we were giving up #12 and #22 to move up to 5. Pick 5 was worth 1700 points. Pick 12 and 22 were worth 1980.
We ended up giving (12, 53 and 56) which came out to 1910 for pick 7 which was 1500.
It was a difference of two slots (5 to 7) - it just seems like Elway played a little more hardball with us than the Buccaneers. I’m sure Tampa could’ve forced our hand for the other RD1 pick if the sent something back considering the value we gave up was about the same. That extra RD1 was important to us at the time… but obviously they would move it to get a QB.
Could be a conference thing? Might be reading too much into it, might not be.
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51 minutes ago, boyst said:
Good. He needs to be focusing on football and not this hijinks. Now that his girlfriend is out of the way, hopefully he can focus on what matters.
I hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, it's an incredibly ignorant statement.
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5 hours ago, chongli said:
These are all good points, and I agree Josh is the slightly better QB. But it's a little unfair to compare Burrow's first three seasons and not Allen's first three. Plus, Burrow led his team to a SB already with a newer coach. That's what the critics would say.
Age is a factor. They’re the same age… Burrow was a rookie at 24 and Josh was a rookie at 22.
Their development has been entirely different. Burrow was at all of the elite passing camps, went to a Big Ten School and ultimately played in the SEC… he had time to work out some of the kinks before he got to the NFL.
He had about 300 more passing attempts in college than Josh did… that’s equivalent to another full season for Josh in college.
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7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
If he has positional flexibility and is willing to sign a come-in-and-compete contract, then I'm For It.
Did he have the MCL surgically repaired, anyone know?
Yes, his right MCL was surgically repaired. Read that he tried to avoid it but ultimately opted for surgery. Surgery was the week of October 4th, 2022.
I believe he broke his left fibula, which means his major injuries have been to different legs.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
Intriguing. I haven't followed him enough - has he played any position other than C? Do we know any details about how he broke his fibula and how he tore his MCL? Was he breathing fire and trying to do too much?
Beane has been pretty adamant about positional flexibility from backup G. But, we are thin on the ground at C right now - we got into our 3rd string C in several games and it wasn't pretty.
Per PFF he played 192 snaps at LG and 4 snaps at RG with Washington in 2018. Otherwise, he's played center exclusively in the NFL.
Also, per PFF, he played 1,601 snaps at LG and 52 snaps at RG across 2014 and 2015 at Wyoming. He played center exclusively in 2016 before being drafted.
Seems to line up with what @Udubalum07says below!
56 minutes ago, Udubalum07 said:As a Wyoming grad, it would be a good signing. He played all the interior line positions at wyoming, at different points of his career. Was one of the most durable lineman in his 4 year career, and is technically sound. He is also very smart.
He would be cheap right now, and would be worth a look, if his injury history turns around, he could have another solid 5 years in the league.
The durability point is something I'm glad to hear more of. He was seen as EXTREMELY durable in the NFL before these past two seasons - I don't worry much about the broken leg because it's hard to control that. The MCL tear is concerning... but not enough to completely scare me away.
Knowing how much McBeane seem to value the center position (Signing Morse for Josh Allen, Bates not being allowed to play G for awhile because he was the backup center) I'd kick the tires on this. Josh loves his boys and I remember seeing him pumped up on social media after Roullier got his big extension. Health permitting, I think this could be a shrewd move for the future and a hedge against Morse's concussion history.
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The Commanders released Chase Roullier today with a post-June 1 designation.
He was Allen’s teammate at Wyoming and went in the 7th round in 2017. He played well enough to receive 4/$40.5M extension prior to the 2021 season.
He fractured his fibula in 2021 and tore his MCL in 2022, which seems to be the reason behind his release - they weren’t comfortable with $12M cap hits the next two seasons after he only played 10 games in 2021/2022. Prior to 2021 he started 46/46 games and was seen as pretty durable.
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32 minutes ago, ganesh said:
A GM never drafts in isolation. I am pretty sure that he works with the HC and the rest of the coaching staff closely in identifying whom to draft.
It’s a way more collaborative process than people realize.
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1 hour ago, BillsNutHawaii said:
Yikes, to this point, I’m only one who voted, “This team still needs way too much help for me to be confident.”
My rationale:- Poor overall draft strategy, year after year.
- Too much reliance on Josh Allen.- Consistently under value Offensive line play.
This is interesting. What about the draft strategy has been poor each year? Their drafting hasn’t been poor in comparison to their peers.
Maybe they’ve been too reliant on Josh in the past… but this year’s draft strategy was clearly to take players to help the offense become less reliant on Josh.
Maybe they’ve undervalued the offensive line in the past… I’m not sure how you can argue that this off-season? They made heavy investments into interior linemen both through free agency and the draft.
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2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
Your answer is above
So your well thought out opinion is that Saffold, despite being miserable last year, is a veteran who was named to Pro Bowls in his career, which means he wasn’t miserable last year?
2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:The rookie only plays on the right side so he is the backup to Bates until we see otherwise. MCgovern may or may not be better this year than Saffold who is a multiple pro bowl veteran player, we'll see. People seem to be accepting that as a fact for some reason
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50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
What is the reason to only go with 85 instead of 90?
I’m wondering if that has to do with the fact that there is only one roster cutdown date now - so it’ll be a mass purge from 90 to 53. That was a rule change this year.
That rule should slightly alter workload management for guys. Knowing that you’ll get to keep everyone the whole time means you’re not worried about spreading out game reps/managing injuries.
A couple less guys at each positions increases the amount of reps. The greatest resource you have as a player/coach is time… there’s only so much of it to go around.
I’m just spitballing - I know we don’t typically carry the full 90 anyway.
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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
This. It is one of the deepest rosters in the league. QB2, OT and LB are the depth questions for me. Elsewhere you might question is the top end talent good enough (DL in particular) but the Bills 2nd team dline could play in an NFL game tomorrow and not get embarrassed.
They remain very deep.
Thanks for pointing this out. It seems to be debated more than not from fans on this board and has creeped up elsewhere. I think the Cincinnati loss is the culprit - but this is a solid roster.
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32 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
Kelce and Gronk were both guys' #1 target, even Ertz in Philly.
Are we assuming the Bills are going to shift their philosophy on offense? That's the only way you can draw these parallels.
Gronk was never the #1 targeted player when the Patriots went to the Super Bowl. There were 1-2 players each year that got more targets from Brady than Gronk did. Edelman, White, Cooks, Evans and Godwin. Ertz was superseded by Alshon Jeffrey. Kelce and Hill were the target monsters for KCs first Super Bowl. This most recent one was the first time a TE was the primary option with Kelce in KC.
Yes, people are expecting a shift in offensive philosophy with Kincaid now in the building. No, he’s not expected to be the #1 option, but rather the 1B to Diggs 1A… much like all of the other examples above.
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29 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
A bit misleading when all 6 of those are Mahomes and Brady led teams.
Mahomes and Brady didn’t benefit from Kelce and Gronkowski?
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6 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Im pretty sure he graded out as one of the worst DL in the league last year.
I was intrigued when we signed him, but he gave us nothing last year.
83/127 wasn’t great, wasn’t a complete disaster.
He wasn’t too far behind Fletcher Cox and Daron Payne. He was actually above Dre’Mont Jones who got a big pay day.
Wasn’t he scuffed up a bit during the year too? Calf?
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The fact someone is trying to claim a professional sports GM just mailed in the draft is ***** stupid.
I mean seriously, the guy just woke up on day 3 of the draft and said “I’m in this competitive industry where every inch counts and every move is scrutinized. TIME TO MAIL IT IN!”
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13 minutes ago, buffblue said:
Gotta think that Klein will find his way onto the roster.
I'm curious to see how Doyle may look coming off the injury. 2 years ago he was basically the swing tackle, and he is still a very young player. Hopefully he shows enough to where Quessenberry is not needed
I think if Doyle is healthy he makes the roster easily. He showed some positive flashes before injury.
If the Bills get Hopkins, with Kincaid added to the mix, what's your starting lineup?p/
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They should be able to keep something like:
3 RB
1 FB
2 TE
7 WR
That’s usually the total number of skill guys they keep - except it’s typically been 4 RB. Only Taiwan Jones was a RB in name only.
Cook/Harris/Hines
Gilliam
Knox/Kincaid
Diggs/Hopkins/Davis/Harty/Shakir/Sherfield/Shorter
Gilliam/Hines/Shorter/Sherfield will all play ST mixed with Matakevich/Dodson/Neal/Bernard and whatever backup DB they put in there.