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43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
Josh Allen is 7-0 in domes.
Isn’t Houston a dome?
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27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?
Hahaha you very conveniently removed the rest of my response from the reply 😂😂😂
We both know the answer to that question, it’s been spouted off here hundreds of times. Nobody has done it. Don’t worry, it is all good though, I have a plan to get some fresh blood in here, I think you’re going to love it!
It starts with hiring Todd Haley as the 21st Head Coach of the Buffalo Bills. His three season stint as a NFL Head Coach in Kansas City wasn’t great (19-26), but I’m confident that he’s learned a ton in his time with the Tampa Bay Bandits of the USFL in 2022 and the Memphis Showboats in the UFL in 2023. We also can’t forget the job he did developing QBs at Riverview High School from 2020-2022. He should be able to take that next step.
In conjunction with hiring Haley, we’ll trade Josh Allen, because there’s a better Josh available that people are overlooking. That’s “right”, Josh Rosen. Be prepared though, we’re going to have to agree on compensation to pry him away from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. I can’t imagine that Wharton will let him go for cheap!
The best part is, it will be their first season together as a HC/QB combination, which means the odds of them winning a Super Bowl increase dramatically.
Don’t get made at me, I’m just giving you what you wanted.
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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I didnt hear about the consulting firm until 2017.
The Ryan hire was supposedly all Terry, Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley. With Rex being Russ's guy and Whaley being talked into it...
I'd also add that none of those other coaches on that list had Josh Allen, or a QB even close to his level.
Funny how generational QB usually goes hand-in-hand with HoF level HC...
I'd also add that all of those other coaches on that list that were hired had the opportunity to put together a process to go about identifying and acquiring a franchise QB. One guy on that list managed to identify and select a "Parody of a QB Prospect" and develop him.
Sean McDermott is undoubtedly grateful for Josh Allen, but he is also an integral part of why Josh Allen developed into a generational QB. Stop acting like Josh Allen walked through the doors at One Bills Drive as a gift to McDermott, because by your own admission he was a "project QB prospect" that you didn't even think McDermott could develop to this point.
If it was up to you, you'd have hired Josh McDaniels or Todd Haley - although I'll be honest with ya, Todd Haley did a heck of a job developing those QBs at Riverview High School the past couple of years! In fairness, that was after Todd Haley got canned as the Offensive Coordinator for the Cleveland Browns in 2018, you know, where he was tasked with developing 2018 #1 Overall Pick Baker Mayfield.
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35 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
My easy answer is: that's not up for us to decide. That is why Terry pays the consulting firm a lot of money. And there werent many people around when we were complaining about Rex Ryan who were arguing for Sean McDermott (or even knew who he was at that point).
But if you want names of guys I've never met or interviewed then I'd say:
Mike Vrabel, from a situational awareness/master of the game perspective. A Belichick disciple who, more than once, has beaten BB at his own tricks with pushing the limits to the rules of the game. I'd even gauge his level of interest in keeping Joe Brady at OC.
Outside of Vrabel, any of the hot OCs, Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowick, whoever. Since nowadays, if you dont make your OC the HC then someone else will and you'll always have instability for your QB.
McDermott was a very highly thought of candidate prior to 2017. He received a call for a Head Coach interview with the Jets in 2015, the year we hired Rex. In 2016 he interviewed for 4 of the 7 head coach openings. He was the choice of 4/5 Browns executives in on their search, but owner Jimmy Haslam was the 1 person who vetoed it and opted to go with the hot OC candidate in Hue Jackson. He also interviewed for 3/6 openings in 2017 when we hired him.
The part the scares me, is Terry paid a consulting firm a lot of money in 2015 to hire Rex Ryan, and then again in 2017. Here are the candidates from those cycles:
2015
Rex Ryan, former head coach (Jets)
Teryl Austin, defensive coordinator (Lions)
Darrell Bevell, offensive coordinator (Seahawks)
Adam Gase, offensive coordinator (Broncos)
Pep Hamilton, defensive coordinator (Colts)
Hue Jackson, offensive coordinator (Bengals)
Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator (Patriots)
Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator (Seahawks)
Frank Reich, offensive coordinator (Chargers)
Greg Roman, offensive coordinator (49ers)
Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator (Bills)
Kyle Shanahan, offensive coordinator (Browns)
Mike Shanahan, former head coach
Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator (Eagles)
2017
Sean McDermott, defensive coordinator (Panthers)
Harold Goodwin, offensive coordinator (Cardinals)
Kris Richard, defensive coordinator (Seahawks)
Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator (Dolphins)
Anthony Lynn, offensive coordinator/interim head coach
It's possible McDermott was the target the whole time, and the rest of the group was just interviewed to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Then again Vance Joseph and Anthony Lynn came out of that coaching cycle with head coach jobs - dodged a bullet there. The scariest part is that Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan were hired in that cycle, and we didn't bring either in for an interview. As I discussed earlier, those two are the tier below Belichick and Reid in my mind, and we didn't even interview them.
Those lists are AWFUL to look at. They brought in 19 candidates for interviews, out of those 19 only 3 of them will be anywhere near a NFL HC job again - McDermott, Shanahan and Quinn. They passed on Quinn in 2015 for Rex Ryan, Quinn ran out of steam in ATL but is having a resurgence in WSH with Kingsbury and Daniels. Then you have Shanahan who they interviewed in 2015 and then opted not to pursue again in 2017.
I'm curious to go back and look at other cycles now, but going back and looking through these quickly, it's telling me it's even more unlikely that a team is able to identify the right guy to elevate them. Other teams are missing left and right, and it's not even close.
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24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
It's very simple: If we exit the playoffs in or before the Divisional round this year, then I am for bringing ANYONE else in. I dont care about records and odds and past performances against Reid and Belichick.
I understand the odds against winning a Super Bowl. I understand the next coach could be worse. But what we have right now isnt going to do it.
My biggest concern is getting to the end of Josh Allen's career, a GENERATIONAL talent which is unlikely we EVER see again. And all we have to show for it is "13 seconds".
With all your research, can you name me a Head Coach who, in year 7 or more of being paired with his Franchise QB made the proper changes and won (or even went to) a Super Bowl? Which coaches took 7+ years of their franchise QB's career to make a Super Bowl?
I understand what you're saying, and at some point, I think it could be necessary. I'm just not at that point yet.
I'm not afraid of getting better, for the purpose of the exercise, can you walk me through how you would find his replacement? Who are the top targets?
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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Sean McDermott (ZERO appearances, 0 wins)
So when we get bounced in the Divisional round this year, you'll say "Oh it was a transition year, let's keep McDermott". And then next year when we get bounced in the Divisional round you'll say "He broke the drought (8 years ago), and the next coach could be worse!"... and then before you know it, another 5 years have gone by, Josh is passed his prime, and we've wasted him on a coach who has zero situational awareness of the ability to take over a game in any way.
Not good enough for me.
We have a Josh. We have a window with Josh. A pretty big one considering he should have a 10-15 year career. But we are already 6 years (halfway?) through it and have zero to show except "13 seconds".
I dont need the next Belichick or Andy Reid. No one ever said that, you made it up. I just need someone who can win one Championship, and McDermott has proven time and time again that he aint it.
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I dont need the next Belichick or Reid. I just want to avoid Marvin Lewis and Marty Schottenheimer.
The subtle point I was trying to make is that McDermott has been directly impeded by Belichick and Reid - he had to play in the same division as Belichick and Reid's Chiefs have eliminated the Bills 3 out of the last 4 seasons. It's going to take some breaks to get there and "win one Championship" when you're going against arguably the greatest ever each season.
Would you be happy with someone like Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan? I would be thrilled to have someone like McVay or Shanahan, as I view them as the next closest tier down from Belichick and Reid over the last decade. The problem is they haven't been very good at taking down Belichick and (more importantly) Reid either.
McVay vs Belichick and Reid (2-2)
11/19/2018 Rams beat Chiefs 54-51
2/3/2019 Patriots beat Rams 13-3 (Super Bowl)
12/10/2020 Rams beat Patriots 24-3
11/27/2022 Chiefs beats Rams 26-10
Shanahan vs Belichick and Reid (1-5)
9/23/2018 Chiefs beat 49ers 38-27
2/2/2020 Chiefs beat 49ers 31-20 (Super Bowl)
10/25/2020 49ers beat Patriots 33-6
10/23/2022 Chiefs beat 49ers 44-23
2/11/2024 Chiefs beat 49ers 25-22 (Super Bowl)
10/20/2024 Chiefs beat 49ers 28-18
They're 3-7 combined and 0-3 in the playoffs.
For comparison sake...
McDermott vs Belichick and Reid (13-14)
7-8 vs Belichick (1-0 in the playoffs)
4-4 vs Reid (0-3 in the playoffs)
13-14 and 0-3 in the playoffs.
I wasn't suggesting that you asked for us to find Belichick or Reid. Instead, I was trying to illustrate my main point, that in my opinion in order to get what you're asking for, we better find someone like Belichick or Reid. Why? Because if we don't, we'd be lucky to get a Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson. Someone that MIGHT catch lightning in a bottle but are as likely to miss the dance all together.
There are FAR MORE guys like Zac Taylor and Doug Pederson than there are Bill Belichick and Andy Reid. Then there are FAR MORE guys who are worse than Zac Taylor and Doug Pederson. I feel like I'm being pretty objective here when I say that Sean McDermott is a better coach than Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson, and seeing that head coach hiring is an imperfect science, tells me it's more likely we get a Zac Taylor/Doug Pederson type... and maybe even worse.
BONUS:
As I stated above, I think McVay and Shanahan are in that next tier behind Belichick and Reid this decade. I also believe that McDermott is in that same tier, as he has played in the much more challenging conference.
McDermott is currently 3-0 when matched up against McVay and Shanahan and he gets a crack at them again later this season.
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15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
You have the wrong year. That was 2018 when they ate all the salary cap and had 5 WRs on the roster that none of which belonged in the NFL. The oline was comically bad.
Popular projections had them going between 3-13 and 5-11.
Their leading receiver in 2017 was Charles Clay with 558 yards. LeSean McCoy was 2nd with 448 and Deonte Thompson who was released by the Bears 5 weeks into the season was our 3rd leading receiver with 430 yards, which was a career high for him.
They were supposed to be terrible that year and somehow won 9 games, that's the point, roster was bad and McDermott won 9 games. Then won 6 in 2018.
You said McDermott couldn't win 5 with the Saints roster, and managed to win 9 and 6 with teams that were as bad or worse.
Thank you for bringing up the point about 2018 to further prove your original post was stupid.
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
I actually think that the one thing Jerry does is he sticks with coaches too long. I mean I know there are only 32 jobs in the NFL but the jobs that are going to be open aren't very attractive. Giants, Jets, and Saints with their aging salary cap strapped roster aren't attractive at all.
These ones will probably be open too...
LV, DAL, NYG, CHI, JAX
All of them have some massive warts though - Chicago is probably the most attractive option.
Leslie Frazier might get his shot to be a HC again...
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19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
The Bills, with Josh Allen, will NEVER be as bad as the Saints. No matter who is coaching. It's not even close to the same situation.
We already know what McDermott is (and isnt). If he has another early playoff exit this year, it is madness to keep banging our heads on that wall instead of rolling the dice with literally anyone else.
It's just really hard to follow along with this. McDermott isn't Andy Reid or Bill Belichick, so let's fire him? The guys who are #3 and #4 all time in wins in NFL history.
There have been 7 Super Bowls since McDermott became the head coach of the Buffalo Bills, Reid and Belichick have represented the AFC in 6/7 and have won 4/7. The likelihood that we find the next Reid or Belichick is so small.
If we're lucky we end up with Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson... someone who catches lightning in a bottle, but hopefully we don't end up with the version of a Taylor/Pederson type who severely under performs in the regular season and misses a chance at the dance all together - you know, like the version of them that shows up more often than not.
AFC
Andy Reid (4 appearances, 3 wins)
Bill Belichick (2 appearances, 1 win)
Zac Taylor (1 appearance, 0 wins)
NFC
Sean McVay (2 appearances, 1 win)
Doug Pederson (1 appearance, 1 win)
Bruce Arians (1 appearance, 1 win)
Kyle Shanahan (2 appearances, 0 wins)
Nick Sirianni (1 appearance, 0 wins)
18 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:LOL! You think McDermott could win five games with their roster?
He won nine with a far worse team in 2017... LOL!
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10 hours ago, JohnNord said:
Campbell would be the perfect player for the Bills. Unfortunately Miami isn’t going to trade him. Their media thinks they can go 7-1 and make the playoffs at 10-7Well, they're 2-6, which means they have to go 8-1 the rest of the way. They will beat LV, CLE and NE.
They play NYJ x2, SF and HOU. They also have the LAR and GB mixed in there too. They're splitting with the NYJ and losing to at least 1 of SF or HOU. Who knows what happens with LAR and GB, but those aren't easy outs. They'll finish 7-10 or 8-9.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
He is truly underappreciated by most Bills fans.
On things both big and small.
The Tyler Bass situation is a perfect example. On a smaller scale, he did a wonderful job of sticking with the person and building him back up. On a larger scale, so did the rest of the team, and that's an extension of the coach and his culture. What many don't realize is the team takes the shape of the values that the coach lives by.
McDermott isn't where he is without Josh Allen, but quite frankly, Josh Allen isn't where he is without Sean McDermott.
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He turned on the jets twice today.
once to get around the corner on that 17 yard scramble. The other on his ***** 30 yard TD the refs owe him.
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It’s amazing to me how many people on here WANTED this guy to fail.
Whether it’s because they don’t like Bass or wanted another reason to call for McDermott’s head for continuing to stick with him… I just want you to know you’re all ***** up.
Go Bills.
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You got the "Mc" part right!
It will undoubtedly be McDermott!!
/s
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2 hours ago, Cray51 said:
So with all of the dolphins injuries, what does their 11 on D look like?
Calais Campbell (DE)
Benito Jones (DT)
Da’Shawn Hand (DT)
Chop Robinson/Emmanuel Ogbah (DE)
Jordyn Brooks (LB)
David Long (LB)
Cam Smith (NCB)
Kendall Fuller (CB)
Jalen Ramsey (CB)
Jordan Poyer (SS)
Marcus Maye (FS)
The guys in bold would not be starting if the Dolphins had their normal 11 healthy.
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1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said:
It's expected that both Zach Sieler and Javon Holland are OUT for the Dolphins on Sunday.
Their defense is really hurting...
Nickel Corner Kader Kohou too...
They're already missing Jaelen Phillips who played against us Week 2. That's 4 starters missing, not to mention Bradley Chubb is still out.
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It's expected that both Zach Sieler and Javon Holland are OUT for the Dolphins on Sunday.
Their defense is really hurting...
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18 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
I see it working out this way…
KC #1
Bills #2
Balt #3
Hou #4
Pitt #5
LAC #6
Den #7
This will most likely how things will shake out. Bills will have a great shot at reaching the superbowl.
We'd be looking at Broncos, Ravens and Chiefs on the way to the Super Bowl.
Tough, but they all are. If we could get Houston in the Divisional Round, that would be huge.
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The Chiefs, Lions, Rams and 49ers all in a row for us is going to be tough.
I think we're 8-2 going into the KC game and have a great chance of beating them, I just think we drop 1-2 games later and the Chiefs won't drop more than 1 game.
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39 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Nah Cook is much better. Hall is a pure straight liner with mediocre vision.
Who was the guy on here that kept crying about us not trading up for Hall and settling for Cook instead?
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2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Then Start Bishop and let the kid develop. I hate this "sit and watch and learn BS" It pure BS, you get better by DOING and if we want this kid to be half way ready in the playoffs then start him now.
Typically I would agree, but we have the Terrel Bernard case study to go off of. If he isn't starting, there's clearly a reason why.
It doesn't me that he won't explode on the scene the next year.
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8 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Zero reason to trust McDermott on personnel decisions.
He started Trent Murphy for three years and he was worse than Epenesa.
He didn't recognize Teller.
He started Peterman.
Heck even Poona Ford is playing ok for Chargers (15 tackles and 1 sack). If you say that is not much it's double he had with Bills last year and on pace for what he did with Seattle on a regular basis. Oh and it's 3 more tackles than Oliver has.
Obviously with the training camp injury Hamlin was starting. But it's still very curious that Edwards can't even dress for game day and rotate in for a few series per game.
This is a God awful take. One of your worst.
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Worth taking a snapshot of what Diggs accomplished in 8 games with Houston compared to a few of our guys here…
Diggs in 8 Games (431 Snaps)
47 Receptions on 64 Targets
496 Yards Receiving
3 Touchdowns
Shakir in 7 Games (242 Snaps)
36 Receptions on 38 Targets
421 Yards Receiving
2 Touchdowns
Coleman in 8 Games (335 Snaps)
21 Receptions on 34 Targets
396 Yards Receiving
3 Touchdowns
Kincaid in 8 Games (316 Snaps)
28 Receptions on 44 Targets
300 Yards Receiving
2 Touchdowns
I really don’t think we appreciate how good Shakir is…
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3 hours ago, balln said:
Yes well the coaches take him off the field for one of the UB backups DBs for passing 3rd downs. So not developing there
Oh the horror, we switch to a dime look in an obvious passing situation. Those idiot coaches, you know, coaching!!
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Trade Deadline
in The Stadium Wall
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You’re exactly right, I can’t believe he didn’t go out and get Amari Cooper when he could.