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    Dan Orlovsky on the Bills Offense Yesterday

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    7 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

    I think when it's 3rd or 4th and a foot, he needs to be under center. Defenses have to alot the proper resources to defend, which typically create great opportunities for both play action and bootlegs. When we go into shotgun, we completely eliminate it.

    I agree with this ..... look at Jalen Hurts on 4th and short.  That guy is $$ in the bank.  Dorsey and Sean need to adopt that short yardage strategy.  Hell they were using it last season - why stop???

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    Ken Dorsey "posterized" again for his coaches box reaction

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    2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

    I think you're speaking of Ryan Wendell, who was our assistant offensive line coach in 2022 (promoted from offensive assistant in 2020)

     

    The Rams hired him as their offensive OL coach this season, and he was replaced by Austin Gund

     

    Pretty fast rise for Wendell, but he played center and guard for the Patriots 2008-2015 under the legendary Coach Scar, so he might know something.

    This guy, right?

    https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/09/rams-ryan-wendell-offensive-line-coach-bills/

     

    cb425bdc458249fdadcce96b079ed54b.jpg?w=1

     

     

    See above - is this the guy you're talking about?  He's gone.

    Bummer but best of luck to him.  Always chuckled when I saw him.  He had an AWESOMESAUCE up close and personal experience for THE Dorsey meltdown!  Lol.

    Is Tre Back?

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    5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

    I'm not sure White will ever be back to his pre injury form but even if so he was always a bit on the overrated side.

     

    If he can't return to that form or anything close to it this is likely his last season in Buffalo anyway given expectations this roster is going to look vastly different next year given pending cap situation.

    Put Down The Pipe Of Paranoia!!!!

    Bills practice 8/23

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    21 hours ago, Logic said:

    It sure seems likely that Von will start the season on PUP and miss the first four games.

    Beyond that, who knows?

     

    I would NOT be surprised if he gets the Tre treatment.......Bills need him towards the end of the season.....just like the Lambs did.

    Question About Josh Allen’s Elbow

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    14 hours ago, cle23 said:

    Could be just to keep everything loosened up, like MLB pitchers do.  Throwing a football isn't a "natural" motion, and it can be hard on your joints, ligaments, and muscles.  

     

    Lets face it....none of us....JA17 included are getting any younger......

    12 hours ago, Beck Water said:

     

    You're thinking about his head?

     

    The little one????

    Good Night / Bad Night - Pre-season game 1

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    13 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

    I wonder if Shorter is a candidate to mysteriously fall to the ground screaming "My LEG!  MY LEGGGGG!!" in the last preseason game and then be awarded the Marquez Stevenson "spend the year on IR" award.

     

    Based on Gunner's description of Basham's success it seems like he could play the Shaq role making Lawson the odd man out.  Of course, it might come down to what players draw an interest from other teams.  They might be able to trade Basham for something but not Shaq.  Just seems that Basham still has potential upside so if he can already come close to giving us what Shaq gives us, it would make sense to stick with the younger player.

     

    I really hope Basham isn't Teller 2.0.  I know I know, Boogie has been here 2 years but still......

    If Kincaid can fill the slot role of this team...

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    6 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

    I want to get excited about the Kincaid prospects but am turning down expectations for the kid

     

    still think he will be a threat but my expectation is not 1,000 yards that’s for sure

     

    im still thinking maybe 500 probably +/- 150 yards either way

     

    not because he couldn’t do more but becuase I’m not sure how much Dorsey will actually dial him up 

     

    BINGO!!!!!

    5 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

    I'm hoping we see Dorsey/Josh take advantage of personnel mismatches that arise with putting Kincaid out there. 

     

     

     

     

    Yeah this is what I wanna see.....we all know Josh can do it.  Point that kid in the right direction and LOOK OUT!!!  IMHO it all rides on Dorsey getting it all together.....

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    What team has the best NFL message board in the world?

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    18 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

    Imma disagree with the GDT haterz.  Those are the most fun, because we react in real time, just like we would if we were at the game.  Sure, there are hot takes, but there are a lot more posts detecting trends, cracking jokes, questioning people's ancestry, etc.  Many of us have a blast in the GDT.  Come join us!

     

    GDT?

     

    Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing??

    Global Dairy Trade??

    Rookie Playing Time in McDermott Era

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    4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

    There seem to be multiple reports that White seems to be looking much closer to his old form in training camp than he did in practices and games last year.

    But time will tell.

     Yup.....father time will reach out and either swipe him from the field or gift him a few more years......an SOB that Father Time guy is!!!

    Rookie Playing Time in McDermott Era

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    6 hours ago, bigK14094 said:

    I think that Jackson, Elam and Benford are all in play to be starters.  I also think the brain trust saw how bad Tre White was last year and it has crossed their mind that Tre might not ever get back to the all Pro form he got paid for.

     

    I hope not......I fear you might be right but I hope not.   Bear in mind that White was VERY slowly brought back which leads me to believe that his injury was significant enough that he wasn't anywhere near 100% when he was brough back.  Lets see what this season tells us before we make our minds up.

    Rookie Playing Time in McDermott Era

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    7 hours ago, Einstein said:

     

    Assuming your data is correct, this also shows that there is little correlation between the round we draft a player and their rookie play time.


    Plugging your data into a regression analysis:


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    We receive a summary output of:

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    The coeffecient obviously has no practical meaning in this context, however the F-stat of 1.8 with a p-value of 0.2 shows that the regression model is not statistically significant at a 0.05 significance level. The r square backs this up with only 9.09% of the variation in the playing time explained by the round drafted. In other words the draft round does not account for a significant portion of the variation observed in the percentage of snaps played by rookies.

    This coaching staff is just as likely to start a 5th rounder as a 2nd rounder.
     

     

    3 draft classes is 50% of Beane's draft classes. That is a significant number. 

     

    This could be re-hypothesized as "Opinion seems to be influenced by the last 3 draft classes. The reality is that our draft choices have not been as strong in recent years."

     

    Jesus.....my head hurts.........

    Rookie Playing Time in McDermott Era

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    9 hours ago, Buftex said:

    I do believe that all the pre-season games are broadcast live on NFL+.  Not the case for the regular season, but in the preseason only.

     

    If you don't have NFL+, NFL Network will show the game at 7am eastern Sunday Morning (Aug.13), and again Wednesday (Aug. 16th) at 4pm eastern.

     

    Personally, Saturday games suck for me, so though I will watch, it won't be live. 

     

    Many thanks for this info.......now I know!!!  Kudos....

    Rookie Playing Time in McDermott Era

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    11 hours ago, Beck Water said:

     

    So there's no mysterious "somehow" about it.  Allen was far from ready. 

     

    Peterman had a great preseason - we all saw it.  At the slower pace and lower defensive quality of preseason games, he was making all the reads and enough of the throws.  And don't overlook that Daboll likely had a learning curve as our OC. 

     

    I suspect that at the whiteboard and in the film room, Peterman is unmatched.  He's still in the league, you know. 2 seasons with the Raiders, now in his 2nd season with the Bears.  I call what Peterman must have, "Catnip for Coaches".  Other than naughty pics of 3 different coaching staffs, there's no other explanation.  He can probably learn a playbook and understand what the correct read is given the defense superfast and superwell - he just can't apparently do that in real time at regular season game speed, and his brain writes checks his noodle arm can't cash (as Fitzpatrick did at times).

     

    Then, people act like Allen came in all ready to be coachable and succeed.  If one pays attention to various things that were said about him by Bohl (his coach at Wyoming) and even stories Allen himself tells - that isn't the case.  Allen was hard-headed and would sometimes ignore coaching to do what he thought best, with disasterous results at times.  Allen told a story about Daboll in one of his rookie training camp practices.  The play call was he was supposed to throw to the running back in the flat.  Instead he threw to the back corner of the endzone and "it didn't go too well" (it was picked).  Daboll was furious and started yelling in Allen's headset.  Allen came to the sideline and took his helmet off and Daboll came over and was still yelling.  Went away, calmed down, thought it over some more and came back and yelled.  And there was still yelling from Daboll going on the sidelines into 2019.  This is Allen's story!  He has also said he is embarrassed now to realize how little he knew about the Bills protections at that time.  Eric Wood on one show intimated that between the Vikes game and the Green Bay game, Allen wasn't focused on a proper week of preparation. 

    One of the reasons McDermott will absolutely bench rookies, or not start rookies, is if they aren't "being coachable" - listening to the coaches, following their assignment as laid out in the play call, taking direction about needed changes in technique.  These are young, high-testosterone males who have suddenly become wealthy beyond most people's dreams, including most of the coaches and coaching assistants.  And like Allen, some of them have succeeded against all odds, and sometimes they did so by "tuning out the noise" (including coaching) and following their own path.  It's no surprise that sometimes it's tough for the coaches to get their attention. 

    One of the only tools the coaches have to get their attention, is to say "you're gonna sit and watch until you're ready to listen and learn".   These guys love ball, and it hurts them to sit and watch, especially if they think they could do it better (and as Talley said, if you don't have an ego you don't belong on the field). And yeah, Allen tore his UCL his rookie season, but I think he was kept on the bench a bit longer than he could have been, because they wanted him to watch and learn how to prepare properly and get into a proper routine as demonstrated by Anderson and Barkley.  Did the FO totally mishandle the QB room in 2018, and did the coaches tremendously mis-evaluate whether Peterman could start?  Yeah, they did.  There should have been an experienced vet in there from the start.

     

    With Elam, it was pretty much spelled out that the reason he was benched during his rookie year was freelancing and seeking picks at the expense of his assignment.  One of the Athletic guys did a feature.

     

    With Cook, it wasn't just the fumble.  McDermott said about him in a presser, something to the effect of "he's starting to learn that what you practice, carries over into the game.  Very seldom does it happen that you play well after practicing differently".  If that wasn't pointed I don't know what is.

     

     

    Excellent post - thanks!!!!!

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