[DaQuan Re-Signed - 2 yrs 16M]

7 hours ago, Whkfc said:

I guess if you don't change anything you can continue to lose in the second round.

 

Did you like just wake up for a 5 month nap to write this post??????

[How many of players let go offered to take salary cuts to stay?]

11 hours ago, JohnNord said:

I don’t think so.  That happens around training camp but not usually in March due to the dead cap.  Morse for example…he cost the Bills around $8M in 2023.

 

If the Bills were to re-sign him after releasing him it would still carry a $3M dead cap.  So if he signed a one year contract for, say $6M, he’s actually more expensive in 2024.

 

Someone made a good point online while arguing that the “cap isn’t real.”  They said moving on from Tre, Poyer, Mitch was more due to their age than it was the salary cap. 

 

 

 

OK - this makes a lot of sense re: Morse.  Thanks for that info dude!!

[What's your definition of a good FA period, and are you really upset with any of the moves so far?]

5 hours ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

Losing Morse sucks and angered me. Finally have a good o line and we gut it for no reason. 

 Gutting the o-line is a bit of a harsh take.  Obviously the Bills have a weeeee bit more knowledge than we do as fans.  I am good w both moves.  Morse really needs to hang it up.  His brain pan can not keep taking these hits or we are going to read about some crazy crap he does due to CTE.  Bates?  Well Edwards and that practice guy will fill that need.  Plus all BIG BALLER BEANE needs to do is hit on another O'Cyrus type player.  

[How many of players let go offered to take salary cuts to stay?]

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

i hope not lol initially he called beane an idiot 😂

 

There is always that crazy sibling in the family.  Ladies and Genitals we present to you Jeremiah was a P-Whipped Biatch.

[How many of players let go offered to take salary cuts to stay?]

I was seriously wondering if Mitch was let go so they could bring him back for 1 more year......Same for Po.

[Levi Wallace available in free agency?]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Nah, Dane Jackson is the new Levi Wallace. Solid, yet unspectacular CB that you can feel comfortable starting if someone goes down and doesn't cost much. I'd imagine he'll be back. With Douglas, Benford, Elam, and Jackson - unless Levi wants to be a Practice Squad guy, I'm not really interested in paying more for a 5th Outside CB.

 

If someone does surprise us and pay more than we'd like for the role Jackson would play on this team, then I could see it. McDermott values CB's who know his system above all else. I mean, why do you think Josh Norman keeps popping up?

 

Thanks for that.....I puked in my mouth reading that!!!

[49ers planning to release DL Arik Armstead]

1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

As more of the free agent activity plays out this year, it seems like there are more accomplished players available that believe they will land some big money deals.  I'm hoping that some miss out on the limited available big money contracts and are forced to settle for one year deals with a good team.  I suspect Beane will have some viable, cheap targets.

 

One can hope this plays out in reality!!

[The GM's Job is Amazingly Difficult]

8 hours ago, nucci said:

He had Ralph

Yeah - that he did......that he did!

[The GM's Job is Amazingly Difficult]

7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Nicely said JG Wentworth.  It’s almost annoying how simplistic posters try and make it when Beane has an incredibly complex position.  These guys never cease to amaze me.  What Polian did back in the day was phenomenal.

 

Yeah but Polian had no cap......wide open free wheeling....same for Butts

[The GM's Job is Amazingly Difficult]

23 hours ago, Sweats said:

I don't really think it's too difficult......i mean, come on, man.....do you think he is one individual who is managing all of it? He has guys working for him and guys working for those guys and guys working for those guys and on down.

At the end of the day, he's the guy at the top, so all of the minor Pions who work below him do all the work and shuffle it up, while the guy at the top takes all the credit. 

I've been in business for a long, longgggggggg time......i've seen how it works.

 

It's not one guy running the whole show. It's more like one guy at the top while everyone else does everything to make the guy at the top look good, in hopes that they might get noticed for their hard work and efforts.....which they never do and the cycle goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.......

 

Never thot I would see a Journey song on TBD!

22 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

A 12 year old kid with a copy of the old Pro Football Weekly would have done a better job than Marv Levy as GM. 

 

This is a sad take but most likely true.  Marv should have NEVER taken the job.  NEVER EVER.

[So Spencer Brown what say you?]

2 hours ago, finn said:

I've maligned him often, but I don't think I was being unfair. He's been beaten on numerous occasions since he arrived, most memorably in the 13-second game, when he was rag-dolled by Melvin Ingram. He's been beaten so often over his career Josh Allen would reflexively dodge the rusher Brown let through. "Take snap, dodge Brown's man, look, throw."

 

Who was the poster who generously posted his review of each O-linemen after every game? Brown always got low grades. Same with the grades from the Athletic. Only this past year, and maybe just the second half of last year, did he do a competent job in pass-pro. He's improved to average. That's something, I guess. But I'm hardly excited about him. 

 

I dunno if I would go 110% with the beginning of your last paragraph, I would agree with the rest of it tho but he is def a liability at times in pass pro.....run game which the Bills are rightfully leaning towards he is above average imo.  I think the Bills can nab him for a signing now rather than later and then have the $$$ to pat DD for a contract of 2-3 years......my $0.02.

[So Spencer Brown what say you?]

5 hours ago, DrMaxPower said:

He proved to be exactly what Beane hoped. Their patience was rewarded.

 

He was an inexperienced and raw player with prototypical size and athleticism. He should still be ascending. The back injury certainly delayed things and lead to some questions but I think that's in the rear-view mirror now.

 

I'd maybe wait a few week into the season, just to make sure there are no backslides but I'd be trying to get him on a reasonable deal.

 

I also wouldn't be surprised if he bet on himself and waited out FA. He could get 15M+ with a similar or better season next year.

 

I do think they will be making a decision on Dawkins vs Brown. I don't expect they will pay them both come 2025.

 

 

 

Only reason I thumbs downed this is I think Brown is a Bills lifer....if Big Baller is on his game he will get an extension sooner rather than later.  Remember Big Baller is ALL IN on this guy....ALL.  IN.  I say an extension is coming soon.  Pay him early and gain the rewards.  Brown hopefully likes it here.....certainly he likes JA17......how many teams have a JA17 to like???  Not the one who can afford to throw massive cash at him that's for sure.  Let's just have Big Baller bring up Edmunds during the the $$$ talk.  Would you like to be Edmunds on HIS team now??  Big Bucks and a team that SUCKS?????  Kinda doubt it....we shall see

[If McDermott doesn’t get it done, would the Bills bring in Shanahan if he left SF after next season?]

12 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Not while the Pegulas are our owners. Shanahan tanked his interview here in 2015 when they hired Rex. They hated him.

 

Wow, that I di not know - not surprising at all I guess.  He looks like a tool.....acts like a tool.....perhaps - he is a tool!!!

[The Ripoff Report 2023 Finale - Autopsy and Prognosis]

On 1/23/2024 at 12:40 PM, Dan Darragh said:

You're a big man, many posters would have snarked back.

 

I'm not sure what other choice McD had for Kelce given the roster situation and his apparently low opinion of Williams.  

 

At night, as I'm fading off to sleep, I see images of Kelce being covered by 58...

 

That's a good vision to imagine!!!  Hey if I am wrong I admit it.....and.....I was wrong.  Way off on my speculation that Williams was and had played more.  Thats what ya get when yer watching games in a bar!!!

[The Ripoff Report 2023 Finale - Autopsy and Prognosis]

18 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Wow, you're easily excitable.  Actually you completely misunderstood my point.  I know everything you pointed out, which just emphasizes mine.  Williams was such a disappointment that they actually preferred a slow Klein who was heading for a family vacation in the Keys to their 3rd round pick.  Williams played a whopping 6 defensive snaps in the KC game.  SIX.  That's not "numerous" according to the dictionary definition. (Look it up if you own a dictionary.)  McD said it was the first time he'd ever coached a game with only 4 LBs dressed and yet Williams only got on the field for 6 plays.  Explain to me how that disproves my point that the coaching staff was disappointed in him.

 

Do you even follow the Bills at all?  Spector was hurt for a lot of the season so naturally Williams was playing ahead of Spector. The fact of the matter is that Williams had a lot of defensive snaps early in the season but the last time he had more than 7 in a game was more than two months ago, on November 19 against the Jets.  I don't recall him being on the injury reports so it seems that the coaches simply weren't happy with his play.

 

My observation is that the Bills used Williams far less than you might have expected from a third round draft pick on a team with a severely depleted linebacker corps.  I think you didn't read my post very carefully but I understand that you're upset today.  Relax.

 

I am relaxing......and I stand corrected.  It "seemed" to me that Williams had more than 6 snaps, quite obviously I was wrong.  Crow eaten.  

 

Bottom line McD's use of Klein on Kelce was borderline criminal.  Not like the Bills never played nor saw any tape of Kelce......that really irks me and clouded my LB judgement.....again.  I stand corrected.

[Anyone else more low-key about this loss than you thought you'd be?]

I feel the same as the OP.  There is no way in hell the Bills were waltzing into Baltimore and winning there.

 

A positive from the game yesterday for me were that Von actually looked a wee bit like himself there.  He chased down Pat, he made tackles at or 1yd past the LOS.  All in all, that was a nice sight.  Sucks for Allen that this is the was it ended yet again.  Plenty of blame to go all around.  People calling for McD's head are forgetting the job he did the past 6 weeks with the D just melting away.  It was inevitable that they were going to break.  They were bending for 6 straight weeks......

 

As a fan since 1985, yesterdays loss was not all that bad.  Yeah it sucks for sure but so did losing SB#1, SB#2, SB#3, and SB#4.  SB#1 the most of all.  Yesterdays loss?  Well stuff happens when you are playing Klein against Kelce.  As one poster previously said it is amazing the Chefs didn't pick at that more often.  The D tank was empty and running on fumes.  Can't beat Mahomes/Reid/Kelce with a paper tiger.

[The Ripoff Report 2023 Finale - Autopsy and Prognosis]

44 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Not sure I agree on Williams.  Given that he was a highly touted 3rd round pick, how did he end up at #6 on the depth chart? (Milano, Bernard, Dodson, Klein and Spector ahead of him)

 

Apparently the coaches aren't impressed enough with him to prefer him to Klein who was on the couch, and who even several years ago was noticeably slower than molasses.  

 

Dude.....you do know that Klein was NOT on the team until LB's were dropping like flies.  You do know that Klein, 2 weeks ago was heading for a family vacation in the Keys for several weeks.  That information doesn't jive with your ramblings of Williams at all.  You do know that both Klein AND Williams were on the field at the same time for numerous plays yesterday right?  Do you even follow the Bills at all?  Did you watch the game yesterday?  Can you form your own opinions or do you get swept by the wave of the negative nellies on this site??  Sheesh.....SMFH.  For MOST of the season Williams WAS playing ahead of Spector.  Pull it together man.....

[The Ripoff Report 2023 Finale - Autopsy and Prognosis]

1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

yeah but...you do understand that teams do not radically change schemes midseason, right? Brady ran a lot of 3 WR at Clemson and arguably that's a better fit for Josh. But he couldn't do a full install on the fly.

 

HC ain't changing. Don't know what to tell you. I don't hate McD's calls this game overall (unless he was part of the fake punt). 

The fake punt was the dumbest thing ever.  RIGHT up there with Klien on Kelce.  THAT WAS BY far the worst decision of the game planning.  That's on McD.

[Sorry to say... But Diggs is done.]

On 1/16/2024 at 7:47 AM, Roundybout said:

Thanks, guy with four posts over the last four years!

Obviously a burner account for one of our pitchfork clowns.....

[The Ripoff Report 2023 Finale - Autopsy and Prognosis]

5 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

There’s a saying I am fond of: “Success knows many fathers but failure is an orphan.” Well, that is inverted with the Buffalo Bills. The Bills deserved to lose that game last night, and there were many, many contributing factors. 

 

• If I am to pick one person who doesn’t have feces smeared on his face this morning it’s Joe Brady. I won’t say that he called a perfect game, but if I told you that the Bills had put up 24 points while holding onto the ball for 14 more minutes than the Chiefs I think a lot of people would have expected a blowout. Even if there was a bit of a stall when the Chiefs adjusted to stop the run, the offense was clicking up to the 2 minute warning. At 2nd and 9 at the 36, the Bills were in position to burn the clock and either force OT with a chipshot FG or put the dagger in with a TD. And guys were open. I can’t fault Brady for that. Maybe the offense wasn’t high flying, but if I was going to write a game script, the long drives (mostly for TD) is exactly what I would have tried to do to keep KC off the field and the defense rested. That is, if the defense could actually get a stop. If I am the Bills, I am doing everything I can to keep him, even if its just for one more year.
• Look, I get it. The defense is banged up. We all know it. We were running AJ Klein out there. But having AJ Klein on Travis Kelce? OOOOOOOF. No wonder the Chiefs spammed that advantage. It seemed like nothing changed up until it was far too late. I saw the stat of 20+ yard plays and they absolutely crushed the Bills on those. The Bills would methodically grind out a TD and then the Chiefs would zip down to match. I said this week that it was time to push all chips into the table, and someone asked me what it mean. It meant that if the injured players were anywhere near to go we had to start them. I am not on the medical staff, but we clearly saw the difference.
• I will say this about 2023: Josh’s WRs, as a whole, let him down this season and I think it’s why things seemed to struggle. I get it that Mahomes isn’t working with his best cast but my god, those drops my Sherfield and Diggs were backbreaking. For people who said that it can’t get worse than Gabe Davis, this is my retort. Even one of those deep catches working out changes the script.
• Special teams. Oof. Where do I even begin? I know I don’t like Matt Haack, but even he would have been better than Martin last night. Martin was clearly not ready and he gifted field position. Bass has been unclutch, and if he can’t kick in December winds I think it might be time to move on. But for the love of god, what was with that fake punt? I know they saw a mismatch, and it wound up not giving points, but sweet mercy was that painful to watch play out. With that kind of advantage, what does it say about coaching one of the highest paid ST units in the league? We pay guys for this level of play.
• Josh. I love Josh Allen. He is a special player. But for the love of god did he screw the pooch inside of 2 minutes. It’s not that I hate taking a shot at the end zone on a 2nd and long. In most situations, I am fine with it even if it doesn’t work out. But you have to know the situation here. The decision to gun it at that moment is terrible. Say it worked, that the Bills gun the ball into the endzone to take a 4 point lead under two minutes. That is 1:55 and 2 timeouts for the Chiefs to score and they had shown little issue moving up and down the field. Diggs is wide open on the crossing route for what should be an easy 1st down or a makeable 3rd. The clock keeps ticking. The Bills don’t need to hurry they have 2 timeouts and Kansas will be burning some too. Josh is a veteran at this point and while he had a good game on the whole those are the kinds of things people point too when they say that Mahomes is on another level. 

 

 

• So that’s my autopsy. Where do we go from here? Well…there actually isn’t a lot the Bills can do.  I know the cap is malleable but even if I wanted to advocate burning it all down the Bills really can’t. (I know, I looked into it after Denver and Philly). Our top 4 cap hits are Josh, Diggs, Von Miller and Dion Dawkins. Dawkins is the only one we could cut outright and get cap space for, and why would we? He played at a Pro Bowl level. Josh, if anything, will be looking at an extension. Even if I wanted to move on from Diggs and Von on down years, knowing their potential makes me loath to lose cap space. The biggest pending FA departures are set to be Hyde (who I think might just retire), DaQuan and Floyd. The last two I think we have a decent chance of getting back.
• In spite of everything, I do think there is legitimate reason for optimism. The one thing about the utter devastation on our defensive starters is that we found that we have extremely talent depth who looked good as starters in big moment. Bernard really came on as a LB and we thought was a Pro Bowl snub. Back with a healthy Milano that looks like an incredible talent pairing with solid depth in Williams and Spector. We still have a solid CB group (Douglas, Benford, TJ). The O-line had its best year in a while and looks to be mostly intact going in (I can see only one potential cap casualty). James Cook looks like a superstar. Our draft classes over the last two years hit in big ways. We saw starters and significant rotation from our 2022 and 23 drafts (Cook, Bernard, Shakir, Benford, Spector, Kincaid, Torrence, Williams), which speaks very well to longevity. 2024 will be taking some medicine on some contracts (Knox, Miller, possibly Tre White if the team thinks he’s washed), and this team can still compete. 
• Offseason: WR, WR, WR. If I am Beane, I am grinding film on every 1st and 2nd round prospect. Draftek does good work, and there are 14 WRs with the measurables to be a potential Peerless Price class player in the top 100 picks. There has to be someone available at 28. I don’t care if it’s a reach, get them.

Well said, very well said. 

 

Now let's duck outa the way for the Fire McDermott crowd with their pitchforks and torches crowd that is surely on their way.......

 

Losing sucks but the points covered above are spot on.

[Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread]

McD stuck w Klien waaaaaaaay toooooooooo looooooong.  Soon as Siran came in Kelce had no impact.  Sad to say but better team on the field won.  Bills D was decimated.  Not McD's fault.....Diggs was WIDE open twice.......who knows what happened there??  I HATE to say it but Von actually looked good the few plays he was in....

[The offense is better without Gabe Davis]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Sigh. Knox is an enigma. He does so many good things… but then drops a wide open pass that hits him square in the hands. Frustrating.

 

I’d also like to see Kincaid go up and get the ball too. He would have had a 2nd TD if he didn’t wait for the ball to get to him (allowed the defender to deflect it). If he had went up and hand-caught it (ala Gronk), he would unlock a new level.

Ummmm - he is a rookie still.....let's give him some time.

[1/7/24 Week #18 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins PregameThread Edit: Jags lost WE’RE IN!]

Just now, Steptide said:

Watch von have like 3 sacks tonight 🙄

From your lips to the football gods ears!  Please make it happen........highly doubt it but I would GLADLY eat my crow with seconds please!

[1/7/24 Week #18 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins PregameThread Edit: Jags lost WE’RE IN!]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Maybe he just hasn't dropped that pregame log yet?

Good one Simon!!!

 

[1/7/24 Week #18 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins PregameThread Edit: Jags lost WE’RE IN!]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I don't really get it, maybe with the playoffs actually clinched he's getting a shot to show he's got that bend back on some snaps, no other time left for him to do it that isn't win or go home.

So unhappy with McClappy on this......I really hope to eat these words but it ain't looking like it.....