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4 minutes ago, BBFL said:
To me there’s a chance to flip 60 for 75 so you’re not completely dead in the drafting for 2 rounds…
Certainly giving up a couple of picks from next year to make it happen.
Odunze is a monster though. Certainly more realistic to get than MHJ.
Where are you drafting Thomas Jr. though?
To get into the 10-15 range it shouldn’t take all of that going by charts. #28, 60 and 2025’s first should net you one of them and a later round filler from the teams you’re trading with.
Trading in there would only take #28 and 2025 1st & 3rd @ worst. That’s assuming you want to keep 60. Which is obvious you would.
I love Odunze but would have no problem with Nabers or Thomas Jr as a consolation in a trade up.
15-early 20's is the range I think they'll have to move up to get him at a price they can live with.
He might go as early as 12... Who knows?
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7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
That’s too steep a price for 1 player, in my opinion.
I'm on the trade up for Brian Thomas Jr train. It would take this years 1st, 2nd and next year's 2nd (or 3rd) to move up to get Thomas and this year's 3rd.
So we'd lose one pick next year and have the same number this year. The 2nd pick would be coming in the 80's instead of 60.
Of course a number of other teams might have him as the clear #4 and drive the price up for him.
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1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:
You don't swivel your hips and drop your legs down onto the back of the runner's legs.
So just falling dead weight is ok, even on the back of the runners legs, as long as you don't swivel your hips?
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2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Beane is going to need to move up to get him
100%... I'd give up this year and next year's 2nd, in return for a 3rd this year to move up to get him.
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19 hours ago, appoo said:
Gabe filled the role exactly as you’d want him to. The problem was that when John brown left, all he had was Diggs as 2nd deep threat, and the bills lacked a true a slot weapon when they tried to fill Cole Beasleys role with Isiah McKenzie. So the Bills became a bit stagnant in route concepts, and having a rookie OC didn’t help either.
Last half of last season, when it because apparent that Diggs had lost a bit of his top end speed (he’s still got elite quickness and acceleration), Davis was the lone deep threat on the roster. He was never good enough to be a guy who’s gonna beat a corner and over the top safety help at the same time. He’s not that kind of burner.
With Curtis Samuel in as a secondary deep threat along with being intermediate and underneath, and a plethora of true intermediate/middle route runners, then someone exactly like Davis is what the bills need to take this offense to the next level - which is an elite offense.
Ladd McKonkey, Adonai Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, Leagette…some real options in this draft of dudes who can win deep. The reach pick would be Rome Odunze, who to me is the souped up version of Gabe Davis
With the addition of Samuel, I think the perfect Gabe Davis replacement in this draft is Brian Thomas Jr. He's bigger, faster and more fluid than Davis. He's a deep threat and a red zone TD machine. Plus he caught 78% of his passes last year.
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1 minute ago, papazoid said:
The rule requires officials to note two actions: If a defender "grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms" and also "unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg(s) at or below the knee."
So how are you supposed to tackle a guy from behind.
You wrap two arms and then what?
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Rappaport just confirmed the signing.
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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I mean, maybe? and guys can develop since the draft, or have a bad day at the draft.
But Bates had an RAS of 9.57. According to Joe Marino (linked above by @Watching since 1964), Clapp has an RAS of 3.74 which is.....not good.
Until seen otherwise, I'm going to go with "We know Rick Bates. And Will Clapp is no Rick Bates".
Clapp's probably a downgrade from Bates as backup C/G. But so is his salary.
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12 hours ago, Beck Water said:
How do you feel about this?
6 year veteran....he started 11 games for the Chargers last season, but I thought they had kind of a sucky OL
I wouldn't pretend to know enough to have an opinion.
Will Clapp is the new Rick Bates.
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15 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:
Cue long snapper joke in 3..2..1
Holder, now that's our true position in need
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Glad he's not on the Chiefs anymore.
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Will Clapp is the new Rick Bates.
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4 hours ago, H2o said:
This^^^.
Kincaid's drop percentage was lower than Travis Kelce. LaPorta's drop percentage was at 4.2%, slightly better than Dalton.
For the people talking about LaPorta and how he was so much better, he really wasn't outside of his blocking. The difference between the two was the volume of targets and utilization on route concepts. That's it. LaPorta averaged 1 more yard per reception, but we all saw how they kept throwing Kincaid those 3 yd passes that never went anywhere. Then, Kincaid's catch percentage was 9% higher than LaPorta. If Kincaid gets 126 targets like LaPorta did, then he catches 100 passes and puts up 920 yds. The biggest stat that stands out are the TD #'s. LaPorta had 10 TD's where Kincaid only had 2. To me, this again goes back to scheme. We had a lot of guys catch TD passes this year, but none of them had more than 8. One of the big reasons for this? Josh Allen had 15 rushing TD's. A lot of times JA17 gets inside the 10 and just says, "I'll take it from here boys." In all honesty JA probably could have had another 7-10 passing TD's, but chose to run it instead.
Overall, it wasn't a bad season at all for Kincaid. We knew what he was coming out and he is definitely a solid investment. I expect him to be more involved this coming year with Brady drawing up the offense and being able to build even more of a rapport with Josh.
I think the reason the Bills chose to run in the red zone so much last season was based on it being higher percentage.
They don't really have a red zone receiving TD machine. And that's exactly what I think Brian Thomas Jr. is.
I hope Kincaid significant increases his TD's this season. Would love to see him in the 6-8 range. Anything more than that and it's all gravy.
But I also think the Bills need a red zone monster. I'd support a trade up into the low 20's for Thomas Jr. I think he's really the vertical deep threat and Red Zone TD machine the Bills need to add to their chain moving receivers of Kincaid, Samuels and Shakir...
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9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Does Alabama have any good WR? Serious question....
If the Bills don't take a 1st or 2nd round receiver, Jermaine Burton is in that next group of wr's the Bills would be targeting.
Like Tez Walker, Javon Baker, Burton, Brendon Rice.
Those would be the Gabe Davis replacements as more physical x / deep threat boundary receivers.
To have their pick of the third tier receivers they'll probably have to package some picks and move into the 3rd round...
While Burton is the smallest of the 3rd/4th round x receivers, he might be the best deep threat.
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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I like the way Brady started using him later in the year. Early in the year, those OTB check-downs, literally anyone can do that stuff. You play to Kincaid's strengths by using him down the seam and on the Y cross stuff, which is what Brady started doing. So I have super high hopes. Kincaid is a dude.
The way he was used in the second half of the season showed me that he can put up #2 receiver numbers in the coming years.
The question is, how high is the ceiling?
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
It continues
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17 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
Schobel was more than a high motor, he was the 2nd best DE in Bills history IMO.
Schobel deserves respect. With his 78 career sacks, he averaged just over 8.5 sacks per year over his 9 year career. With four double digit sack seasons and a high of 14 sacks in 2006.
Toohill's production this far makes him more comparable to Ryan Denney or Chris Kelsey.
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14 minutes ago, Brand J said:
What’s his projection? I’d use one of the 4ths with the hope he beats out Edwards at LG. Seems more talented.
4th is where he's projected to go. He gave up 8 pressures and 4 sacks last year. His weakness are being undisciplined at times in pass pro. I think that's something he can improve on with technique and coaching.
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7 minutes ago, Brand J said:
Creed scored a perfect 10 on the RAS. Limmer scored a 9.82 with his biggest detriment being his weight, so you’re not far off with the comparison!
Except Limmer's RAS is based on the Gaurd position, not center. He's the exact same weight as Humphrey and 3/10ths of a inch taller. So basically same body, except I think Limmer has a stronger core.
Very close 10 & 20 yards splits, 3-come and shuttle. Creed has him by a hair.
But Limmer's 36.5 vertical is impressive, as is his 39 reps.
Check out his anchor against 360lbs Sweat:
Jim Harbaugh lives in a van down by the river
in The Stadium Wall
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It actually runs on old fryer grease that he picks up in the parking lot of Tito's Tacos on Sepulveda.