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    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

    Right

    The guy I responded to originally was asking why our dline doesn't get after the QB like the Eagles did in the SB...as you say different responsibilities make for different outcomes defensively

     

    A simple way of saying it would be that (and granted I don't watch a ton of the Eagles so this is strictly a Super Bowl observation) they used their pass rush to contain the Chiefs downfield whereas we tend to do the opposite and rely primarily on coverage to dictate/muddy up reads

     

    fundamentally different approaches (again one game sample)

    I haven't researched it but I've been told the Eagles played a lot of coverage we play, they just did it better.  I'm really hoping as much for our additions in the secondary as I am for additions on the line.  

    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Today I learned two QBs passing a total of 47 times for 381 yards is a shootout

    Your also leaving out over 300 yards of rushing so almost 700 yards of offense total but I'll give you that shootout might be a little bit of a stretch.  When two teams score over 50 points and should of had more it certainly wasn't a defensive battle.  

    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    12 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

    An we wouldn't have won a shootout or even been competitive in a shootout with Baltimore. 

    Wait what?  I must have missed some context on this one.  So we wouldn't have won a shootout with the team that we beat in a shootout?

    3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

    i mean inasmuch as running the ball means Allen by definition can't throw a pick on that play then yes, I agree runs tend to correlate w QBs turning the ball over less. But I will basically never agree that taking the ball out of Allen/Mahomes hands in service of preventing turnovers is a good concept offensively

    I agree but for the sake of slowing down a pass rush running more the 3 times in a half will help your QB more than hurt.  Part of our problem pass rushing is that we play so light in the box that our Dline comes off the line looking for the run and never gets to the QB.  When we run on teams it makes Allen's job easier.

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    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

    iirc the Eagles were kind of middle of the pack in 2024 wrt sacks

     

    They just kind of came alive during the playoffs and esp the Super Bowl. I mean Josh Sweat looked like Lawrence Taylor out there and he's just ok 

      I think running the ball is a key contributor to Allen turning the ball over less and not running the ball certainly didn't do Mahommes any favors vs the Eagles.  I'm not looking it up but I think they only gave the RB's 3 carries the whole first half so the Eagles just came after Mahommes and he made mistakes.

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    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    21 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

    The Eagles were 3rd in EPA defense Overall, 2nd vs the Rush last year. Baltimore was one sport worse vs the the run and 11th overall. Eagles dropped 37 on us the year prior with a less productive offense and a better Bills defense. They had the 4th worst defense in football that year. We have shown no history of playing up in weight class in the postseason. I don't think it would be close. 

    The Broncos were number 1 in EPA and we hung 30 on them and Cook ran all over them.  Remove the one awful Bengals game and the offense is averaging 26 points in our playoff losses and we're losing by less than a TD even though the defense is giving up over 30 in those games.   It's your opinion and your entitled to it but I'll stand by my opinion that the offense is capable of keeping us in any game.  Maybe I'm getting bad info but I thought the Ravens were 8th overall and 2 spots better than the Eagles vs the run.

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    Perspective on the Bills from Eagles fan site.

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    Eagles run defense wasn't better than the Chiefs.  Eagles, Chiefs, and Ravens all would have given us similar problems.  Enough defense to make it hard to break it open and a run game that would keep our pass rush in check leaving our secondary that couldn't cover.  We had enough offense and just enough defense to beat Lamar.  We had almost enough offense and not enough defense in a winnable game vs the Mahommes.  If I had to guess we would have been in another close game where we would need to pull something out to win if we had ended up playing the Eagles.  I certainly think the offense is ready to win a championship.  The defense has to find some playoff swagger somewhere.  Even the years with pretty decent talent when the game is on the line we don't make the stops we need in the playoffs.  They certainly are trying to infuse the defense with difference makers so I can't say they're not trying.  

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    Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?

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    7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    So I don't have Darnold in the "franchise" club in any definition. I get the "he got paid" condition, but he has one moderately successful year as a starter. His other years starting have been dismal. Financially he and Baker are on a par but Baker has had three playoff years as a starter, and has played pretty darn well in the playoffs.

     

    So once you throw Darnold out.... you are left with TLaw and Murray. I have Lawrence in penultimate place ahead of Kyler, probably on the basis that Kyler it totally anti-clutch, he plays his worst when you need his best AND I think he is the most likely of the bottom end "franchise" guys not to be on his current team in 2026. But I wouldn't really fight against someone putting those two the other way around. I think Kyler has generally been more consistent in helping his offense move the football. 

    This sums it up well.  I might add that in my opinion Lawrence has been more manic in that his best season was better than any of Murray's and his worst season is worse than Murray's but overall I can't think of anyone year in and year out who is better at losing in November and December than Murray.  Murry is 12 and 25 in November and December.  If there's a chance the Cards make the playoffs they blow it down the stretch almost every year.

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    Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?

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    Haven't read every page but if Kyler Murray hasn't been discussed for this award he should be in the running.  

     

    In contrast Baker took Cleveland to the playoffs and won and that alone should mean something.  Lost to the Chiefs.  Later beat the Eagles in the playoffs with a different team.  Baker has been to the playoffs and won a few.  Not saying he's the greatest but he certainly isn't the worst.

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    Name a random Bills player and one thing you remember about them

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    Anyone remember Tommy Sweeney?  Flying home from the Bills vs Miami game on Halloween (2021?) I was seated next to his mother.  Actually one of his better games.  His mom was pumped.  Lots of BC stories and parent stories about him and his sister who I think was a swimmer or something like that.  When his father stood up and helped my wife get her over head bag down I could see where they were related.  Good people.  Kinda rooted for Sweeney while he was in Buffalo just because his parents were nice.

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    Are Fan Expectations Too High for Keon Coleman?

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    Since this thread is called what it's called I beg to question what is a low drop rate for an X WR in this offense?  We essentially throw to the slot, TE, and RB as opposed to the Davis and Diggs days we pretty much only throw outside on a few WR screens and if teams switch to single high or cover zero.  In those cases we are generally throwing jump balls, back shoulders, or contested catches in general.  Realistically what is a high drop rate for someone who is seeing mostly those type of throws?  He only had 4 drops last year with an ADOT of over 15 yards and Allen only threw 2 picks trying to get him the ball.  Allen threw 6 picks in back to back seasons trying to get Davis the ball.  I still think (hope) that Coleman can have Gabe plus production with better hands and more ability to work shorter because he's more nimble than Davis was.  Anyone who thinks you are going to get high catch or yardage totals like Diggs put up out of Coleman is going to be upset.  Guess that is telling because many people already seem to be upset.  In this offense Coleman is most likely the 3rd or 4th read before seeing the defense they're lined up against.  

    PFF's top 32 TE's (Dalton Kincaid at 10!!!!!)

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    3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    I want to see less Knox and more Kincaid in one tight end sets.  Even in Kincaid's nightmare season last year he had better yards after catch, yards after contact, and a lower drop percentage than Knox.

    What source are you using?  Pro Football Reference says Knox's drop % was 3 last year and Kincaid's was 8.  Their career yards after catch averages are exactly the same and Knox has a greater ADOT.  Rating when targeted is 102 for Knox and 92 for Kincaid.  I think Kincaid is going to be fine.  Hopefully a good TE for years to come but I feel about the same using a first round pick on him as I do paying Knox the contract we did.  

    A Kyle Pitts market appears

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    His stats read almost WR like.  He has a generally higher ADOT than you'd expect from a TE with a lower success rate or catch percentage and his rating isn't great when targeted but like I said his yards per catch has been pretty high for a tight end.  Seems like he's generally a big WR but to his credit his draft profile says he's a willing blocker so there's that. 

    PFF’s top 32 LBs

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    Coming in late to this thread, probably already been posted 100 times but I can't believe Dodson is on this list ahead of anyone.  He was a hot pile of garbage in Seattle and then with the Dolphins he made 3 starts and they lost 2 out of the 3 games and gave up 30 points in those losses.  His first start in Miami he gave up 100 percent completion percentage in coverage and missed 4 tackles and it looks like they gave him 6 snaps on defense in the next 3 games after that.  In his time here he had worked his way up to a point where he wasn't a complete liability but he certainly was't top of any list material.  On the same note Milano has a decent body of work where he has been great but working his way back he wasn't great and he did work his way back to where he wasn't a liability but he's not the same player he was.  In typical PFF fashion the entire list is fairly questionable.  The got Warner right and then probably should have just quit after that.

    Keon Coleman success by route - Not pretty

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    1 hour ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

    It has been brought up many times how relatively slow Coleman is..and accurately so.  But what I do find interesting is that his numbers at the combine were virtually identical to Nacua. In fact, I think Coleman was actually a bit faster in the gauntlet drill.

    So what is the difference between their games?  Does Nacua have a skill set that Coleman doesn't have? 

     Maybe with a second more healthy season with Josh Allen will bring out aspects of his game we haven't seen yet.

    The single biggest difference is that Nacua isn't playing an X WR role.  For the most part he's facing a different set of defenders than an X WR would face and in general he's catching much shorter throws as evidenced by the fact that Coleman averaged 7 more yards than him in ADOT.  Nacua isn't the decoy he's the guy benefiting from it.  Coleman still averaged more YAC than Nacua.  There's plenty of reasons to be encouraged by Coleman but given the position we have him playing and how we use that position he's probably not going to see 120 targets and his catch rate even with a good year will probably be 55 to 60 percent.  If he learns a few Gabe Davis routes and Brady finds some use for his YAC ability and mixes him in a little more it's not out of the question he could have 800 or 900 yards and 6 plus TD's next year.  Given our running game and Shakir and Kincaid taking over the higher volume stuff that would be decent production from the guy who's probably your 3rd or 4th option.

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