Maine-iac
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On 5/18/2024 at 1:25 AM, Beck Water said:
It's not just his catch radius that's of concern given his short arms, it's his ability to hold off a DB down the sideline. If the DB has a grip on him with 32" arms, the physical vocabulary to break that grip is more limited ('cuz he can't reach him).
While his arm length certainly leaves some question marks about whether he's only capable of playing slot in the NFL he must be doing something right if he's top ten in separation and leading the league in catch percentage. I'm not trying to move him outside but more suggesting he's been playing with those arms his whole career it's possible he has it figured out to some extent. It might be more of a match up based problem than an every week problem if they did want to give him snaps outside. Against certain defenses stacking Shakir and Samuels might be pretty hard to defend.
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Digging around because there's so much talk about separation. A lot of decent receivers are on the far low end of the separation statistic. Hopkins, Higgins, London, Cooper, Pickens, Evans, and Ridley (just to name a few) were all on the very low end, statistically, of the charts. I think it's of note that both Kincaid and Shakir had separation over 3.5 and catch % of about 80. I'm not sure what to make of it but it leaves me feeling like separation as a statistic is not the be all end all of stats. More separation does tend to help catch percentage but there are a lot of receivers who are very productive regardless. After reading Tee Higgins draft profile the similarities are striking. Higgins had more production in college but physically they are similar. So from now until he gets on the field I'm going to tell myself Coleman might be the next Tee Higgins even if it's yet to be seen.
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Watched the cover1 video on MVS. I don't see the guy running past anyone. People repeatedly saying "vertical speed" but I don't see him run past anyone. He seems to do Gabe Davis things with maybe an extra step. Am I missing something?
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Just now, FireChans said:
7 for 7 first and second round picks?
If you count the 1st we traded for Diggs ........ yes. Unless I missed something.
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Just now, FireChans said:
Fair enough. I disagree. I think the defensive investments haven’t been good enough and I think the offensive investments haven’t been enough.
It's tied 7 for 7 (unless I'm counting wrong) since Allen's draft.
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5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Kind of.
Not hard to read in between the lines on this - Miami gave him a better offer with better incentives so he chose them over us or the Chiefs. It came down to money like it always does.
Who do you think has a better year this year, Chase Claypool or OBJ? I actually don't have an answer and I'd be guessing at one anyways but it makes you think. So much potential but a head case vs possibly old and washed up.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
It was. Their other second round pick was a safety and their third round pick was a backup DT.
They also got rid of their #1 and #2 WR this off-season.
I will ask these questions, point blank.
Do you think the Bills, over the course of the last 6 years of Josh Allen’s career, have done enough to put offensive talent around him? Your definition of enough may be different than mine, and that’s fine.
Do you think the high round investments in defense have paid off? I’m talking about AJE. Rousseau. Oliver. Edmunds. Boogie. Your definition of paid off may be different than mine, and that’s fine.
my answer is no and no.
yes and yes
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
It was. Their other second round pick was a safety and their third round pick was a backup DT.
They also got rid of their #1 and #2 WR this off-season.
I will ask these questions, point blank.
Do you think the Bills, over the course of the last 6 years of Josh Allen’s career, have done enough to put offensive talent around him? Your definition of enough may be different than mine, and that’s fine.
Do you think the high round investments in defense have paid off? I’m talking about AJE. Rousseau. Oliver. Edmunds. Boogie. Your definition of paid off may be different than mine, and that’s fine.
my answer is no and no.
If we spent all those picks on offense and they didn't work out would you be asking if we keep using picks on offense? You do it until it works.
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I drive to Gillette (3 hours) every year. Last year was pretty disappointing. Flew to Buffalo 2 seasons ago. All road trips for me. True story they will pay you 50 bucks to park in the delayed exit lot at Gillette.
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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:
So when Josh is 35 and the defense continues to implode in the postseason, the answer is still gonna be “we just need to keep drafting DL high?”
Interesting.
FWIW, Oliver got erased by KC’s IOL. He had 1 assisted tackle. Rousseau has 1 sack and 1 TFL in his postseason career. Terrell Bernard has 5 career postseason tackles.
Kinda makes my point for me.
1st player off the board the last two years was a TE and WR no?
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
We didn't have a WR1 in the playoffs last year and it was a severe handicap in our season ending loss.
We held the ball for 37 minutes and almost beat the SB champs with Klein as our starting MLB. The offense was fine without a WR1.
I'm not saying we don't need guys to make plays but there's a long history of teams winning championships without Megatron playing WR for them.
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Tell me exactly what having a WR1 means and then tell me how it helped us in the playoffs so that I know the difference between last year when we had one and now that we don't. What is it that we will miss?
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We found Diggs and Davis replacements last year. We just phased out being an outside receiver focused offense. We got more production out of our TE's and RB's and slot WR than any other time since Beasley left. Running game was a force also. Most people probably can't even name the guys who started at outside WR for the Pats on any of the SB teams. Same with the Eagles that beat the Pats and give it a year or two no one will know who started at outside WR for the Chiefs the last two years either.
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4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
ahh you're right
Both Diggs and Gabe had a good game against Miami before the Bengals debacle.
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7 hours ago, Doc said:
I'm expecting Samuel, assuming he stays healthy, will have his best season as a pro and eclipse 1,000 yards.
Percy Harvin ruined me on speedy, veteran WR's, who have potential. I hope you are right.
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20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Yes until 2nd and 9 after the 2 minute warning. A choice more perplexing than anything that transpired during 13 seconds.
I didn't find the choice perplexing at all. The 1st read was a TD and it was there. Blocking didn't hold up. No denying Diggs was open hot but the play was drawn up to score and the throw was there.
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6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
The issue is you can't project in a vacuum
Last years WR3 got WR3 attention from DBs
Asking him to be as productive against better quality corners isn't a given
Didn't say it was a given but I don't think it's above reasonable expectations to think he could produce similarly but over 17 games. I dare say it's projecting in a vacuum to say he couldn't do it.
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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:
and any of them could step up but we probably need 2 out of 3 to play above reasonable expectation to have an average to possibly above groupConsidering "last years WR 3" was our best receiver over the last 10 games I'd say we're half way there.
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3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Josh Allen is a weapon. Sneaks at an incredible high rate. I think you use Allens running ability late as possible. Playoffs, Division, or seed purposes. I can’t think of a reason to call a designed run before the first snowfall of the season. Use Davis, Johnson, Cook whoever before than. An occasional sneak sure. Allen scrambles sure. Allen power right on 2nd and 7 from the 35 no thank you.
I absolutely agree but when you don't have anyone who's good at slamming up in there for 3 yards and you drop to 5 and 5 in the middle of the season the gloves come off. Pretty sure neither Dorsey or Brady were drawing up game plans where Josh was running 3rd and short 10 plus times but you have to do what you have to do. What I'm getting at is the team saying they don't want Allen running is different than having a big back and actually being able to do something other than run Allen. I haven't seen them run short yardage well with anyone other than Allen. Singletary on 3rd down against Miami running out the clock is etched in my memory and that's about it. Would love to see it happen.
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I don't know Davis well enough. In short yardage Allen might be one of the best. That said there is a certain amount of abuse he takes doing it. If Davis is that good at short yardage he'd certainly be able to carve out a role. Pretty sure that's what Murray and Harris were supposed to do last season.
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On 5/10/2024 at 1:06 PM, Mat68 said:
New DC. New secondary coach. He is different than every other corner on the roster. His strengths and weakness are different. My opinion is as of last season he was too high a variance player for Mcdermott. Flashes great but also has less than ideal reps.
I might be wrong but he got benched for not coming up and tackling in the Giants game. He looked like a more motivated run stopper when he got back in there vs the Steelers. He was taking his lumps covering Ridley. Still plenty of potential there. He seems to come up with splash plays with some frequency.
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6 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Davis is a suitable goal line and short yardage back. I dont think you understand how stalky 5’8 215 is.
Stalky is great but 215 doesn't move guys on the goal line like 230 does. Singletary ran over people very well for his size and even scored a few TD's on the goal line when they gave him a chance. That said there's a reason that Josh runs so much in short yardage and that's because 240 pounds moves guys.
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9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
We saw some version of Brady's offense operate over a half of a season. We also saw that it required Josh Allen to run the ball almost 10x per game and tons of 10-12 play drives to succeed. I'm not really down for seeing Allen run the ball 150 times. I'd kinda' like him to be playing QB at a high level for a while.
Already addressed that. I agree with you. As far as playing QB at a high level the Chiefs game might have been one of his best at taking the profit and keeping the offense on the field.
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Unlike Edwards running the no huddle we've seen Brady's offense succeed and do it for the most part without much contribution from Diggs. So the hope that someone can replace that "production" is at least somewhat warranted. Leading up to the Broncos loss Allen had rushed 7, 7, and 8 times in the previous 3 games. We had already started selling out to win games and the pressure was already on for Allen to run before Brady took over. This was happening with Diggs on the roster. The difference maker we lack is a short yardage back. A lot of Allen's runs he's virtually untouched or sneaks out of the pocket and only faces a defender or two down the field. The repeated use in short yardage where he's taking big hits both on 3rd and 4th downs but also goal line is something I'd like to see get taken over by someone else.
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Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State
in The Stadium Wall
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I mean technically you are right. His completion percentage on throws like that in that game alone probably also wasn't great but that doesn't mean Josh can't make the throw. Diggs dropped his, Sherfield dropped his, and Allen got hit on the throw to Shakir. Passing chart says he made 4 throws over 20 yards and 3 of those at a minimum had nothing to do with Josh being able to make the throw.