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  1. Just now, Buffalo716 said:

    I mean he's not a transcendent player 

     

    But he's absolutely a really good quarterback...Buffalo would have killed for a guy like Donovan McNabb 

     

    Six-time pro bowler when it actually meant something..

     

    McNabb led the NFL twice in total offense per game (2005, 2006), led the NFL in total touchdowns per game (2002), and in 2008 held the NFL record for lowest career interception percentage (2.09%, now surpassed). He is the Eagles' franchise leader in passing yards, passing touchdowns, attempts, and completions

     

    In 2004, became the first player in NFL history to finish a season with 30+ TD passes and fewer than 10 INTs 

     

    He was top five in rushing yards for qbs

     

    eagles wall of fame.. eagles number retired...

     

    He was a good quarterback even if he didn't play his best in the postseason

    Yout can take McNabb out of the equation. Andy Reid went 50-26 with Alex Smith and had 4 playoff years and out 5 years with him. I think we can all agree that is an accomplishment. On the flip side Belichick had Kosar who was good, Testaverde and Bledsoe who was good/decent before Brady and did nothing with them. Alex Smith wasn't much better than all 3 of those guys and Andy Reid got everything he could out of him

  2. 21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    Andy Reid had more talented teams in Philadelphia then Bill did in cleveland

     

    Donovan McNabb was one of the best quarterbacks of the NFC in the 2000s.. easily good enough to win a super bowl.. those eagles teams were loaded.. but Reid and his team always came up short 

     

    Even Alex Smith took longer to develop but he was a number one overall pick who was a good quarterback.. not transcendent but Buffalo still would have been killing for a guy like Alex Smith before Josh and after Jim Kelly lol

     

    Bill belichick also went to the playoffs with Mac Jones and won like 10 or 11 games with Matt Cassel 

     

    He also stopped the bills no huddle offense in the super bowl.. and he stopped the greatest show on turf.. until Andy Reid gets six super bowls he's not better than Bill belichick

     

    He got fired from Philadelphia for always losing the big one

     

    Bill belichick also has a winning record against Andy Reid

    1989 the Browns make it to the AFC Championship game

     

    1991 (2 years later with a lot of the same players and with Bernie Kosar as QB. A guy that Cleveland fans loved and had a lot of succes with) Bill Belichick takes over as head coach and has 4 losing seasons out of 5. Those teams were not that bad

     

    When he took over in NE. He already had guys like Bledsoe, Willie McGinest, Ty Law, Ted Bruschi, Lawyer Malloy and he went 5-11 His first year. The next year (with Bledsoe) he starts 0-2. So, his first 18 games with the Patriots he was 5-13. Bledsoe got hurt, Brady came in and the rest is history. Here's stat for you on the The 08 Patriots which was the year after their 16-0 season and the year Brady went down in week 1. The Patriots went 11-5 that season. 9 of the 11 teams they beat that season had losing records. 2 of those wins were against the Bills twice. The only 2 teams with winning records they beat that year went no better than 9-7. That was the Jets once and the Cardinals in a blizzard in NE. Wanna know the funny part? 4 out of their 5 losses were against teams with WINNING records. They even got smashed the 8-8 Chargers. So let's put the two together. 9 out of 11 wins were to teams with losing records and their 2 wins were against teams that did no better than 9-7. The better teams they played with more than 9 wins they went 0-4 and then got blasted by the 8-8 Chargers. So, let's nit act like what he did that season was some sort of major accomplishment. And then of course is his career post Brady where he had one fluke season with Mac Jones where they started 7-3 and beat up on bad teams and had one win against the Bills in a tornado. And they went 3-4 after that and then got smoked by the Bills in the playoffs. Belichick has always been and will always be nothing without Brady. Brady took a Buccs team on a 12 year playoff drought to a Super Bowl and won it in his first year there. Belichick has failed every which way without Brady. Plain and simple. He is the most overrated head coach of all time and Andy Reid is far better

     

  3. 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

    BB is better than Andy Reid lol

     

    He won 11 games for Cleveland in 1994.. they didn't win 11 games for 26 more seasons 

     

    He went to the playoffs with Mac Jones.. the dude is the best coach ever 

     

    Even the best can't turn dog crap into pearls .. you need a little to work with

    Andy Reid is better than Belichick. Belichick was in Cleveland for 5 years. You realize that, right? He had ONE and I'll say it again for the people in the back ONE winning season out of those 5 in Cleveland. 

     

    His records in Cleveland (without Brady)

    6-10

    7-9

    7-9

    11-5 playoffs

    5-11

     

    His records in NE (without Brady)

    5-11

    11-5

    7-9

    10-7 (playoffs)

    8-9

    4-13

     

    Now as for Andy Reid (without Mahomes)

    5-11

    11-5 (playoffs)

    11-5 (playoffs)

    12-4 (playoffs)

    12-4 (playoffs)

    13-3 (Super Bowl loss)

    6-10

    10-6 (playoffs)

    8-8 

    9-6-1 (playoffs)

    11-5 (playoffs)

    10-6 (playoffs)

    8-8

    4-12

    11-5 (playoffs with Alex Smith)

    9-7

    11-5 (playoffs with Alex Smith)

    12-4 (playoffs with Alex Smith)

    10-6 (playoffs with Alex Smith)

     

    And then he got Mahomes. It's clear as day to see that Reid had far more success with a lot less at QB than Belichick did. You're literally trying to use ONE winning season out of 5 in Cleveland and ONE fluke season with Mac Jones to prove your point. He has 2 OUT OF 11 seasons WITHOUT BRADY that he made the playoffs. Plain and simple. He is not even average without Brady. Reid WITHOUT MAHOMES had 11 OUT OF 17 seasons that he made the playoffs. 4 of those with Alex Smith who was nothing more than Mediocre his entire career. And he went to 5 Championship games and to a Super Bowl with Philly. He is the far better coach

     

    Brady without Belichick in his career is 84-101

     

    Reid without Mahomes is 

    92-49-1 with McNabb

    50-26 with Alex Smith

     

    It's not even close that Reid is the better coach

  4. 5 minutes ago, Success said:

     

    I couldn't disagree more.

     

    I watched those games.  Belichick outcoached pretty much everyone.  It was the combo that led to so many titles, but I saw enough of how he'd coach the defense in particular to know that he is easily one of the best coaches of all time, if not the best.

     

    Without Brady

    6-10

    7-9

    7-9

    11-5 (playoffs)

    5-11

    5-11

    11-5

    7-9

    10-7 (playoffs)

    8-9

    4-13

     

    There is nothing about that that says best HC of all time. He rode on the back of Brady. How about this, the year after Brady left NE he got another Super Bowl with Tampa. Belichick died off. If Brady had 5 extra years with Bruce Arians, he would ne going to the HOF to

     

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  5. Just now, Success said:

     

    Were you watching the past 2 decades?

     

    Belichick was head & shoulders above every other coach in the league.  

     

    Because he had the greatest QB if all time playing for him. I'll say it again. He had 11 seasons of being a head coach without Brady. He only made the playoffs in 2 of those seasons. 

  6. 4 minutes ago, Success said:

     

    This is where I'm at.  

     

    I'd only go a little further on Belichick - I really like his analysis & seeing him on the shows now.  He has a sense of humor that we almost never saw when he was coach, and his knowledge is 2nd to none.

     

    Yes. His knowledge is go good he only made the playoffs in 2 out of 11 seasons without Brady. Genius

     

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  7. 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

    How did Luke Kuechly not get in?  Played eight years, 5 first team all pros (two 2nd teams), 7 pro bowls, offensive rookie of the year, and one defensive player of the year. 

     

    Also, I don't like to root against a player but Eli getting in as a 1st ballot HOFer would've sullied the honor a little bit imo.  

    He was so good defensively that he got offensive rookie of year to? That's a hell of an accomplishment and definitely first ballot HOF worthy. 

     

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  8. 40 minutes ago, NewEra said:


    He was 2nd in QB hits, 3rd in forced

    fumbles, 10th in hurries 10th in stops, 11th in batted passes.  
     

    Pff gave him an 81 pass rush grade- 13th 

    and 83 overall- 12th overall for DEs.  
     

    Yes- it sucks that he didn’t  come through vs KC in the playoffs but he had a sack vs Baltimore and Denver. He had a sack last year in the playoffs too.  Overall- he’s played well in the playoffs.  He didn’t vs KC…..doesn’t mean that will continue.  He’s an ascending player that will be highly coveted 

     

    agree to disagree- I’ll leave you to your thoughts and say ✌️ 

    He's not getting sacks. All of the amazing "pressures" don't mean nothing if you only get home 2.5 times from week 2 until week 18

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  9. 36 minutes ago, T.E. said:

    Rousseau and Oliver are both barely above-average, yet tons of Bills fans act like they're elite players. It's bizarre. Almost like they're trying to manifest greatness that clearly isn't there.

    And one guy talking about his "potential". Who talks about potential for a guy going into his 5th year? He should have already reached it. And what more do they see him doing? I personally don't see much more coming from him. There is a reason to this point the Bills have not signed him to an extension. That still could happen but I just don't see him being anything more than he already is

    27 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    Tons of fans exaggerate.  I don’t feel many of us are saying that Ed and Rousssau are elite.  I’m in both of their fan clubs- but neither are elite.  Both very good and capable of dominating.  Both likely better than you think….no one’s saying they’re elite sans maybe a handful

    They each have great games but then disappear for long stretches. How do you not see this?

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  10. 5 minutes ago, NewEra said:


    You don’t give him enough credit.  He’s a better pass rusher than you are portraying him to be.  As he is a run defender.  
     

    you have your opinion.  I disagree.  He’s worth 20M

    enough of these "he's a good edge setter" "he's good at collapsing the pocket" "he's good at getting pressures but never gets many sacks" type of guys. The fact that everyone is ok with players like this is why we will never go anywhere. The guy got 3 sacks the first game of the season, he got 2 and half the rest of the year. What are you talking about that he is better than I give him credit for?

     

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  11. 4 minutes ago, Brand J said:

    My ceiling for Groot would be $18M/yr. Anything more than that, buh bye. He’s in that same tier as Oliver, although Oliver has shown up at times against Mahomes. Groot, I don’t remember the last big play he’s made. He could’ve made a monumental play keeping eyes on Mahomes on that 4th and 1. Had he stayed home and “set the edge,” Bills get the ball back at the KC 39 yard line.

    That's what I would say, he is Oliver except on the outside. He has good games and then games where he disappears. It seems like most people here are fine paying the dude $25 million a season, I don't see it 

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  12. 1 hour ago, NewEra said:

    Most people think he’s really good.  Good rusher and elite run defender.  He’s not an elite pass rusher- so he can’t be “very good”?  He’s very good

    He's not even a elite defender. He's a "good" player. Not very good. As I put it in another comment, he's a good "edge setter". We need a pass rusher. 

    1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    Not like Shaq at all.   Rousseau ACTUALLY stops the run and creates pass rush.   He was tied for 11th in pressures and 17th in hurries among NFL DE's in 2024.   Very close to Crosby and Garrett in those pass rushing metrics.  

     

    He just hasn't been able to be a finisher to this point because he's not a great athlete.   But like I said,  he has ELITE GPS if the QB steps up in the pocket.   If they could force those situations he would become a sack producer.   Or he might just get better with experience and increased natural strength like Calais Campbell did.

    Ok, so this is the Jerry Hughes argument then? The guy that everyone loved that was great at getting pressures but only ever got like 5 sacks a season? He isn't "very good". He is not a player you invest $20-$25 million a year in

  13. 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    He is REALLY good against the run and at collapsing the pocket.   That's why he ranks so high as an edge setter and pressure creating DE.   The Bills have struggled at making QB's step up in the pocket in his time in Buffalo.   He's not at all an edge bender who causes those types of things and aside from Von Miller's first season in Buffalo they've lacked one of them since Jerry Hughes used to scream around the edge and force the step-up.....but not get sacks.   Rousseau is the guy who is great at gathering the QB when they are forced to step up in the pocket.   He has elite GPS for it.   That was how he generated so many sacks in college.

    An edge setter? So, he's a better Shaq Lawson? That's what Lawson was always considered, a guy that could "set the edge". That's not good enough. We NEED and elite pass rusher. If we have to give up Rousseau to get Garrett, I'm not even thinking twice. He can go "set the edge" in Cleveland 

     

  14. 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

     

    I think he's really good, still has potential, and it's very difficult to even find players of his talent. 

     

    I also think if you add Garrett or Parsons it would help Rousseau a lot

     

    He is going into his 5th year. What has he shown to be REALLY good. Gove specifics

    1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

     

    I think he's really good, still has potential, and it's very difficult to even find players of his talent. 

     

    I also think if you add Garrett or Parsons it would help Rousseau a lot

     

    The most sacks he has in a season in 4 years is 8. He disappears for multiple games at a time. What makes you think he's really good. He's average. A player should reach their potential by year 3 or 4 at the latest. He is at his Max at this point 

     

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