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11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
Carolina seems to want Legette.
Maybe they give us 33 and 65 for 28, 128, and a 3rd next year. Not sure that works but if they really want Legette….
We would have
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I’d think we could go Ladd Mitchell Worthy or Franklin at 33
BPA there on out.
I think if Beane really wants to move up that first round pick in 2025 is on the table but only for The top 3 WRs and Thomas. Depends.
Tell me more about Ladd Mitchell Worthy. Can he play?
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Give up 28, 128, 160 and 163 this year. Along with next year's 1st, one of our 2nds and a 4th next year. The Cardinals have 3 3rd round picks this year so we get any one of those back this year and we would still have our
2024
1st (4th overall)
2nd (60th overall)
3rd (71st or 90th overall) from Cardinals
4th (133 overall)
5th (144th overall)
6th (200 overall)
6th (204 overall)
7th (248 overall)
8 picks
2025
(2nd rounder)
(3rd rounder)
(5th rounder)
(6th rounder)
(6th rounder)
(7th rounder)
And possibly even get our 2025 4th back via trade or compensatory. We could essentially only lose a 1st round pick next year when all is said and done. I'd do this in a heartbeat
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Positives: We get MHJ. We keep our 2nd and gain a 3rd
Negatives: our 2025 Draft Class will be weak (but we can make up for it with cap space and UFA signings)If we manage to do that, and get a 3rd back this year. Depending on what picks we have next year, we may only lose a 1st round pick and a 4th next year in all of this. Because next year losing one 2nd a first and a 4th would still give us another 2nd and 3rd at the very least to play around with next year. We could even get the 4th back from a trade or a compensatory pick
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5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Final Offer:28, 128, 160, 2025 1st, 2nd, 2nd
For 4 & 66
I do like the idea of getting number 66 back from them, though. Like you said, they have 3 3rd rounders. Getting anyone of them back would work
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Final Offer:28, 128, 160, 2025 1st, 2nd, 2nd
For 4 & 66
I don't know if I would give up both 2nds next year but I would gladly give up one. We have 3 fifth round picks this year, I'd be fine giving up 2 along with a 4th this year since we have 2 of those and see if we can get a 3rd back this year. Use a 1st, one of our 2's and a 4th or 5th next year. I'd do it
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
For #4 it would. Which, would be perfectly fine with me. Just take out the 2026 1st, and their #27 and it's a deal
***Side Note: AZ has THREE 3rd Round picks....so if the Bills are looking to jump into the 3rd, I'd look to themNo, I don't think it would. The Julio Jones trade didn't give up a first round pick 2 years later to move from 27 to 6. We shouldn't have to either. If we gave up 28, 128, 144 or 160 this year or both and put 1st, 2nd and 4th or 5th next year, it should get it done. It's 6 picks between this year and next years draft. You don't need to dig into 2026 to do it
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Let's go Bananas....
AZ Acquires
#28#128
2025 1st
2025 2nd
2026 1st
BUF Acquires
#4
#27
You won't have to give up a 2026 1st time make that happen. A 2025 first, 2nd and a middle round pick along with a 1st and one of our mid round picks this year should get it done
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7 years ago, yes. Now? No
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Arthur Blank: "Bill, do you have any explanation for your 36-44 record in Cleveland without Brady? Or your 5-11 season in 2000 in New England before Brady? You know you had only one win better than Rich Kotite in the same amount of games coached your first 6 seasons as HC, right? What about your 0-2 start in 2001 before Mo Lewis changed your legacy forever? Or your 29-38 record after Brady left NE? You know he won a Super Bowl without you? Any explanation on any of that?
Belichick: "No"
Blank: "ok, well, we'll let you know. Don't call us, we'll call you"
That's why Belichick didn't get hired
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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:
So tell me - what's your take on McDermott? Is he good enough to win one, with mostly bad luck? He's had 2 playoff losses against the eventual conf. champs and 1 conf. champ loss? How do you decide what is "bad luck" (injuries to key players, maybe 1-2 penalty calls that don't go your way or a mistake), and what is "not good enough", and be sure it isn't "hindsight bias" now that Reid has achieved what he has with Mahomes in KC?
'Cuz at the time, I can promise there were plenty in Philly and elsewhere in the league who weren't saying "Reid is good enough to win one, it's mostly bad luck".
I do think there had been some bad luck along the way. I've never seen a team get ravaged with injuries as bad as we have the last 2 years. Yes, injuries happen to every team but when it's all mainly on one said of the ball, it takes a toll. I think the Hamlin thing took it's toll on the team in 22 as well and put the nail in their season. Outside of 13 seconds, I don't think everything that has went wrong was in McDermott's control. And as far as Andy Reid having bad luck. I say yes, he had QBs that were good enough, to get him to the playoffs, just not over the final hurdle with Mahomes. I've never seen a guy have some much success with average to mediocre QB play as much as Andy Reid did and took it about as far as he could. If he even had a QB a little bit better than McNabb, he probably wins a ring or 2 in Philly. And he squeezed as much as he could get out of Alex Smith to but again, I don't think anyone on the planet wad winning a Super Bowl with Alex Smith as QB but yet Andy Reid got the most put of Alex Smith of anyone in Smith's career. All it took for Reid was they final push he needed with a QB like Mahomes and he finally got there. What McDermott has had with Allen and not done anything with, is nowhere near the comparison of Andy Reid had to deal with in Philly and KC before Mahomes because he never had a QB of that caliber. McDermott does. And if we can stay healthy for once all season, maybe things can he a little different
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
You do know that before Patrick Mahomes started, Tony Dungy opined on national TV something like
"the Kansas City Chiefs may win a Superbowl...but it won't be with Andy Reid as their Head Coach"
The narrative about Reid has changed quite a lot during the last 6 seasons of his 25 year HC career.
Reid was good enough to win one back before Mahomes, though. It was mostly bad luck. He went to 4 straight championship games and then finally got to a Super Bowl with McNabb. And then went to another Championship game a few years later with McNabb also. He goes to KC and gets Alex Smith, has success with him as well getting to the playoffs every year. Mahomes finally did get him over the edge but Reid was good enough to win a Super Bowl before him. He just needed the little extra QB talent to carry him over that final hurdle. It's not like Belichick who did nothing in his career when Brady wasn't his QB
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39 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said:
It's #1 on Sean's legacy if he never wins a Super Bowl.
1: Trading Mahomes pick
2: Breaking 17-year playoff drought
3: Blowing 13 seconds
4: Wasting the Josh/Diggs window with a rookie OC
Mahomes would have no Super Bowls if we drafted him to. So, not so sure why so many people attack McDermott for that
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1 hour ago, mannc said:
Keenan Allen is barely a WR 2 right now. I guarantee the Bears draft a receiver on day 1 or day 2 who will supplant him this year or next.
Do you ever actually look at things before you make arguments? He has had 100 catches or more 5 of the last 7 seasons, and over 1000 yards in all but one of those including last year and the only season he didn't was because he missed some time. How do you figure he is barely a WR 2 now?
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
He’s not better than DJ Moore.
Kupp hasn’t been healthy in 2 seasons. I have very high concerns that he will be the 2021 version of himself in 2024 at 31 years old.
He was very good in 2022 before his catastrophic injury. He started coming back to form a bit last season. We will have to see what happens. But a healthy in form Kupp, I'm taking over Aiyuk
2 minutes ago, mannc said:Why wouldn't I care about age? The issue is "which receiver would you rather have right now" because that's the decision any team wanting to sign Aiyuk has to ask, not "Who has had the more impressive career accomplishments?". No GM would take K Allen, Evans, Diggs, Adams or Kupp over Aiyuk right now and that's probably also true regarding Nakua, Olave and Wilson, even though they are really good young players. Tee Higgins is a pretty good comp, but Aiyuk is more explosive and just had a much better year than Higgins, who has been somewhat injury-prone. Aiyuk is about to sign a top four or five WR contract, that's for sure.
It's about which WRs are top 10 guys right now. Of course I would take age and potential over a 33 year old guy but if a 33 year old guy is better than the 25 year old guy right now, I am going to acknowledge that.
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9 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Hard disagree on Kupp, Nakua and Olave. Extremely hard disagree.
Olave, I will give you. How about DJ Moore? And Kupp healthy isn't better than Aiyuk?
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7 minutes ago, mannc said:
Give me a break...Nakua's played one year in the league and Kupp has had two down years in row. Keenan Allen wouldn't even sniff the top 20 at this point in his career and Diggs, Evans, and Adams are all over 30 and noticeably in decline, although all can still play...Olave is a good player, but there's absolutely no reason to think he's better than Aiyuk at this point in his career.
Ok. You need to stop caring about age right now. If you wanted to give me Keenan Allen at Aiyuk's age. I'm taking Allen all day. And Adams had Garoppolo and Aiden O'Connell throwing to him last year and you're gonna say he is in decline? Lol. Give me Mike Evans right now at Aiyuk's age and I am taking Evans. I actually forgot about DJ Moore and maybe Garrett Wilson. Kupp had a catastrophic knee injury 2 years ago and just bounced back last year and got more into form as the year went on. Healthy, I'm taking Kupp. They are just better than Aiyuk, sorry
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20 minutes ago, mannc said:
The only ones I can name who are definitely better Aiyuk are Jefferson, Chase, Hill...maybe AJ Brown...maybe I'm forgetting a few, but that's about it.
I'm all ears...who are the WRs in the NFL who are definitely better than Aiyuk?
Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, Hill, AJ Brown, St. Brown, Kupp, Davante Adams, Mike Evans, Chris Olave, Nakua, Keenan Allen, Garrett Wilson
I would put Aiyuk more on the Jaylen Waddle, Terry McLaurin, Amari Cooper, Michael Pittman, DK Metcalf level. But he is top 15
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1 minute ago, mannc said:
I can only name three or four WRs in the league who are definitely better than Aiyuk...he's absolutely top 10...Go ahead and try to name 14 WRs who are better....
3 or 4? No way
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Just now, FireChans said:
So would I.
I guess I’m just saying the production is there and the eye test is there.
What 10 WR’s do you have better than Aiyuk heading into 2024?
Where do you rank Tee Higgins and do you think Aiyuk is really that much better than him right now? To me, at this point, if you traded for either one, you would be getting the same player
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5 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I think it’s probably fair to say he is projecting into the top 10 in the future.
Lamb
Hill
St Brown
AJ Brown
DJ Moore
Puka
those were the guys with more yards than Aiyuk last year. And I don’t think Moore or Puka are better than him.
Combine that with the 3-4 guys who will likely age out of top 10 status in a year or two (Diggs, Adams, Evans, Hopkins?) Aiyuk is definitely in the conversation.
I'm not just going by yards. I'm going by the eye test. Jamaar Chase isn't on that list and I would take him over Ayuik every time. Aiyuk is more Tee Higgins to me right now than anywhere in the top 10 category
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22 hours ago, mannc said:
Aiyuk is absolutely a No. 1 WR. He’s a top ten WR in the league.
Really? I wouldn't say that. If you wanna get into top 15 or top 20, I will listen
8 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:In the immortal words of Marlo Stanfield, "Price of the brick going up."
DeVonta Smith just signed for approximately $25 mill per year.
Me thinks Aiyuk is now off the table. Contracts have seen an uptick. From Cousins, to Jacksonville Josh, now Smith.
Me thinks so too
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On 4/11/2024 at 8:17 AM, BeastMaster said:
is that I now believe the narrative on Josh and the Bills in general has changed. We are now according to the media a non contender. We lost both our top two receivers and one being a top five guy in Diggs. We had to let go of our safeties, our Center, and our best pass rusher from last season.
The window is closed. The Bills won't be a threat, and Josh has a rag tag group to throw to.
This to me opens up the door for Josh to elevate his game this season...to stay within himself and the offense to put up a phenomenal season which will give the media no other option but to recognize his greatness and finally let him win his first MVP award.
This team is not what the media is portraying it in my eyes, but that doesn't matter because they have already decided we are worse, that Josh has no real receivers, and that we are yesterday's news.
It's a good spot to be in for not just the team, but for Josh and his MVP chances
The 1pm truthers right now
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Legette vs. McConkey
in The Stadium Wall
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I'm gonna go with Xavier. Because what you see is what you Legette