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  1. 8 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

    I thought so, and that is exactly the point.  A majority of white people in the country have a problem with race.  Only a small minority is outwardly racist. 

     

    Look, all I can tell you is that I've discovered, as have many other white people discovered lately, that the way you're thinking about this is the way I thought about it until a few weeks ago.  Then the light went on.  So I understand what you think you know, and I understand why you vehemently disagree when I tell you that you're missing the point.  All I'm telling you is that the reality that is so obvious to you, the reality you're so sure you're right about, actually isn't the reality at all.  I believed in your reality until a few weeks ago.  

     

    Let me give you an example.  I don't know where you live.  I live in New England.  Cape Cod is a famous, very popular vacation area.  It's an hour or so from Boston.  Lots of beaches, bars, restaurants, hotels.  Jam packed with people every summer, including this summer.  There are practically no black vacationers on Cape Cod.  There are black people cleaning hotel rooms, cutting lawns, and washing dishes, but there are pretty much no black vacationers.  Why not?  There are no laws keeping blacks out.  It's not cheap to go there, but there are plenty of well-paid black people in New England who could comfortably afford a nice Cape Cod vacation.  There's no KKK. 

     

    Most of the white people who are on the Cape say what you say - that it's a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of the people who cause the problem.  Well, if that's true, and there essentially none of those people in New England, why are there no blacks on Cape Cod?   The answer is that they don't feel welcome.  Why don't they feel welcome?  Because the white people on Cape Cod don't make them feel welcome, that's why.  

     

    Now multiply that across the country.   There are millions and millions of people who combine, most of them completely unwittingly, to make blacks feel unwelcome.  We all do it.  We don't do it to Italians, we do it less to Asians than to blacks.  We just do it.  

     

    It's a problem pretty much all of us have, including me.   I've gone to Cape Cod for years, and it was only this summer that I noticed for the first time that there are no black people there.  It's like there is an invisible "No Blacks" sign before you cross the bridge.  

    Shaw, this is so right on; you nailed it.  Orchard Park born and raised, I've lived in Patriots nation the last 20 years. :(Have been going to a sports bar in Boston called the Harp (across from TD Garden) forever, a sports bar that converts into a WNY island in the heart of Boston on Sunday afternoons during football season. Well, until this upcoming season if there is one...

     

    It wasn't until the George Floyd assassination (and there had been plenty of police brutality episodes prior to this going back to Rodney King in 1991 and then a whole series of visible ones in the cell phone era beginning with Michael Brown in 2014) that I saw the light. Started asking myself questions like: Why in this sports bar where 400+ rabid Bills fans are crammed packed into the upstairs and downstairs sections, why have I never seen a single African-American here in all the years I've been coming here? 

     

    Shaw, thanks for taking the time to write that thoughtful piece with a real understanding of social injustice issues and a recognition of the unconscious bias that we all possess, as uncomfortable as it may be to acknowledge.

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  2. 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

    I heard that interview live  and he sounded anything but serious about coming back under any circumstances.  He was asked several times about it and, after listing all the reasons he wouldn't come out of retirement, he finally conceded to the guy that, yeah, I guess it's possible.  I'm still working out...

     

    zero point zero....

    So you're saying there's a chance....

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  3. 16 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Good point.  Lou Saban is known for running a super easy, player friendly program.

     

    if this dude is serious about football (and as someone who has defended him, I’m even questioning that), you sign for the absolute minimum, and just work your butt off.  He wasted Hall Of Fame ability. 

    LMAO, too funny C. Biscuit!  "Lou Saban, what a great job he's done." 

  4. 6 hours ago, Augie said:

     

    That’s leaving money on the table.....not the NFL Way. 

     

    Call it Augie’s House, and I’ll kick in $500/year. I think it has a nice ring. I’ll need a Go Fund Me campaign to raise the offer. 

    I'll chip in another $250 on your Go Fund Me campaign. I think we're close to making this happen! 

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  5. 6 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

    I was happy with that kind of money 25 years ago.  Is that what the terms were?  I was so happy to be able to buy a top end snowmobile to race between Green Bay and Buffalo all winter long, that I forgot the actual numbers.  Look at AJ Kleins numbers compared to what I got 25 years ago.  LOL

    Hahahahaha!  Perfect comparison. AJ Klein couldn't hold Bryce's jockstrap. Just looked up the contract numbers for Klein: 3 years, $18 million, $11.3 million guaranteed, $6 million average annual salary. Basically double the NFL MVP's salary from 25 years ago for a backup. Insanity. 

  6. On 7/11/2020 at 11:37 AM, Paup 1995MVP said:

    If Dawkins has a big season, then we should pay him well.  If he has an average season, (which overall is what his play has been over the past 3 years) then let him walk and try and find someone who is better.  I hope it is the former rather then the latter.  

    Bryce, do you remember when the Bills signed you away from Green Bay in 1995? I'll never forget how everyone was talking about how Ralph had really emptied his pockets to make that free agent signing (3 years/$7.5 million). How things have changed. Today, that would be backup $$, not elite, first tier category. 

  7. 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

    It's the boat everyone is in.

     

    I'm a teacher. I actually REALLY want to get back in the classroom because I think this "distance learning" sucks and students aren't actually learning.

     

    Then again, I'm in good health and keep a very small social circle.

     

    I have good friends who are coworkers who are basically refusing to go back into the classroom because they have underlying health conditions like diabetes and heart issues. 

     

    And I don't blame them at all.

     

    I'll be honest: a month ago I was like 99.9% sure we'd have an NFL season. Not there anymore, though I still think it's much more likely than not that we have a season...

     

    Although that might also just be wishful thinking... ?

    Hey fellow teacher, totally agree with you about remote learning being far from ideal. 

     

    I think ultimately they will try to start the season but realistically I just can't see them finishing. Name a more contact sport than the NFL. Players breathing, spitting, sweating on each other. The perfect storm for transmission. Boy how I hope I'm wrong. Best chance for the Bills to make some noise in 30 years. 

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  8. 5 hours ago, Logic said:


    Agreed.

    Scrolling through sports news today, it's happening to multiple teams across multiple sports. The idea of just being able to quarantine one or two people and have everything be fine seems like a total fantasy. It really doesn't seem to work that way. 

    From where I sit, a full NFL season -- or even a 10 game NFL season or whatever -- seems next to impossible.

    As much as this thoroughly bums me out, it just seems like the inescapable reality until a vaccine comes along. Ugh. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, mjpbills said:

    I was there too. I lost my coin. I thought the return was longer.

    Haha, you're right. I just looked it up and it was 102 yards. Herb Mul-key. Short-lived NFL career but made the Pro Bowl in 1973 as a special teamer as well as a Super Bowl appearance the same year. 

     

    I'll never forget the shocked look on dad's face as it was the first play of the game in that brand new stadium and we were both so pumped. He had that "Is this a bad omen?" look I will never forget. 

  10. 23 hours ago, John Gianelli said:

    Check this video out for how football has changed in 50 years. Half of the highlights they show would have a penalty flag or two thrown. Some great clips of OJ and Robert James. 

     

    The day the Buffalo Braves traded MVP Hall of Famer Bob McAdoo (my screenname) for John Gianelli (yours) and cash, was a sad, sad day for that franchise. Still, seeing your name brought back amazing memories of going to games at the good old Aud with dad and watching big Mac and Buff State boy Randy Smith. Thanks for posting this historic video. 

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  11. 5 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

    That was an AWESOME video!  Made my frikin day.  The narration.  Was that Jeff Kaye?  And the music was great too.  Wow I was 8 years old when the stadium opened.  Did not move to Buffalo until 1976.  But remember watching those early games as a kid living in Pa.  That artificial turf looked so good on TV.  I remember the Juice cutting back and making plenty of long shifty runs.  The 70's were so much better then the world is today.  My goodness.  

      

    Totally agree with you, Bryce. I was 9 when the stadium opened and went to the opener against the Washington Redskins with my dad. I wax nostalgic about the 70's too eventhough the teams between 1988-'94 were obviously better than the OJ/Fergie years. 2020 is only half over and it's already been the worst year in my memory. Thank God at least the Bills are back to being good again! 

  12. I was 11 when dad took me to the home opener at then Rich Stadium. Still have the commemorative coin they gave out to mark the historic occasion. The unforgettable part of that preseason game against the Redskins was the KR for Washington ran the opening kickoff back 98 yards for a TD. Not the most auspicious beginning but still an amazing experience just to be there. 

  13. 22 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

    Speaking purely on his qualifications for the Wall...It's not even close to being in doubt...He belongs there...Period...End of story...And before anyone else who is not already up there...I watched his entire career...He was my favorite player so there is an admitted bias...

     

    Nonetheless there are 346 members of the Pro Football HOF and Pro Football Reference's weighted AV puts him at 250 overall since 1970...Now...This is not an argument about his HOF credentials, which are legit IMHO, it's about the greatest Bills of all time...And Bennett is squarely in that group...Unquestionably...That same PFR metric ranks him as the 6th best Buffalo Bill since 1970...5th if you don't count Ted Washington...

     

    Can we please put this to bed Mr and Mrs Pegula?...?

     

     

    This.

  14. Bryce, I love the game of basketball but the Braves were dead to me the moment they left for San Diego. When I see the LA Clippers, Kawhi and Paul George playing in Buffalo Braves throwback jerseys (yes, it happened several times this season until the season was suspended), I got a little emotional but I cannot feel invested in them. Not having a horse in the race, yes, I can appreciate a great talent like MJ or Kobe but it's just not the same. 

     

    Just my luck, we've lived in Patriots nation for the entire Brady/Belichik era (2000-present) so I have to work hard at educating my daughter about Buffalo sports. Last year, we did a double-header weekend (Sabres Saturday night, Bills Sunday afternoon) in WNY. I confess that I bought the cheap nosebleed seats at the Niagara Center so I could afford to splurge at New Era. After the first period, my daughter gets tired of being so far from the action so we head down to the lower section. She tells me, "Dad, just follow me and pretend you know what you're doing." She leads me to two amazing seats a couple of rows behind the Sabres bench. Sabres win Saturday, Bills win Sunday. The perfect weekend. Agreed about the Sabres. I really thought after drafting Dahlin, with those 2 elite talents, they would turn it around quickly. Boy was I wrong. 

     

    On the other hand, I am all in on the Bills and Josh. I expect the season to start without fans in the stands. My biggest fear this year isn't the Bills letting us down. It's several players from multiple teams getting infected and entire teams having to quarantine. No way to predict or prepare for that really. Can you imagine that happening late in the season with the Bills having already clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs? That would just be too Billsy! 

  15. 2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

    I do remember Randy Smith.  He was excellent also.  They also had Ernie Digregorio and Garfield Heard.  Used to go to the games at the Aud as a kid sitting way up in the nosebleed Oranges.  McAdoo was as pure a shooter as they came in the history of the NBA.  And loved his side burns too.  Is he still alive by chance?  McAdoo and the Iceman George Gervin from the Spurs.  Two amazing offensive players in any era.

     

    I was actually not at that game against Denver.  But did watch it from my apartment at the time in Atlanta, going nuts!!  And thanks for the Kudos about Bryce.  He was a hell of a player as well.  I still wear his jersey occasionally, probably a couple times a season.  Bought it in 1996.    

     

    In one of my sports-starved, Covid-19 era moments, I watched an old Youtube video of Randy Smith's 1978 MVP all-star game just a couple of weeks ago. What a great ambassador for Buffalo. Local boy makes good. Ernie D may have been a defensive liability but sweet Jesus what a passer. It was like he had eyes in the back of his head. Loved Garfield Heard before he was traded for John Shumate. My dad and I used to joke that Gar arched the ball so high that he would forget where the ball was going! (just the opposite of Ken Charles who may have had the flattest shot I've ever seen in the NBA.) Terrific defender. 

     

    Gosh, I'm waxing nostalgic now about the Aud, Bryce. We too used to sit up in the nosebleed, Orange section too! Yes, they were high up but gave you a great perspective of the game. I loved the Aud more than the modern, cookie cutter arenas today. Do you remember Danny Neavereth, the public address announcer? "That's TWO for MAC-ADOOO". McAdoo is indeed still alive. And yes, the side burns were a classic trademark of his. Not too long ago, the Buffalo News did an extended interview of Paul Snyder, the local owner who sold the Braves to Kentucky Fried Chicken mogul John Y Brown (and future husband of the late Phyllis George). Interesting tidbit: in it, Snyder describes how to this day, McAdoo has tried to purchase a framed action photo of himself from Snyder but which he doesn't want to give up!  Snyder basically tries to exonerate himself saying that the real problem was the Braves having to play second fiddle to the Sabres when it came to scheduling.  I cried for weeks following the move to San Diego as if I had lost a family member. In some ways, I think I've never recovered from that trauma lol. Even with the Pegulas firmly entrenched as owners of the Bills, I still worry about them being moved to a bigger market. Small market blues. 

  16. On 5/17/2020 at 12:19 PM, Paup 1995MVP said:

    That was an amazing play and overall comeback in that game.  Bennett was an elite player.  Talley was pretty dam good also.  Maybe not as good an athlete.  But a very good football player and great team leader.  

     

    I love your user name.  I remember Bob MacAdoo as a kid.  Wow could he shoot.  He was tremendous.  Did he lead the league in scoring 3 years in a row in the mid 70's?  How good a jump shot did he have!!

    Glad that you were there to enjoy that epic game and moment too, Bryce. (Hey, I love your user name too; those were the days!)

     

    McAdoo was indeed amazing. I call him a Kevin Durant before KD's time. Yes, he led the league in scoring 3 consecutive years (one year 34.5 per game and that was before the 3 point shot.). Had the 3 point shot existed back then, he may well have averaged 40 a game. He could shoot the eyes out of the ball and from way downtown too. Do you remember local Buff State boy, Randy Smith?  Could have been a professional soccer player, as fast as Russell Westbrook. Amazing athlete. RIP to Randy. 

     

     

  17. Benny Williams was my favorite childhood player. After one game I still remember going with my dad down to the tunnel where the players head back to the locker room. I distinctly recall shouting down to him at the top of my lungs, "YAZ-OOO city" as I always loved the unusual name of his hometown. Will never forget him looking up with his classic, big smile, pumping his fist in the air with pride!  Great memories. 

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  18. 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

    Phyllis George had to endure some of the most vicious sexual harassment ever from her male colleagues at CBS.  For that she is to be commended, as she clearly was a trailblazer for female sports correspondents.  Her husband?  Not so much.  He destroyed the Braves and my youth.  RIP Phyllis George. 

     

    I echo your sentiments, FredEx.  I was as big a Braves fan as they come (as evidenced by my 2ForMacAdoo name). Dad shared season tickets with 3 other families so we essentially went to 10 home games a year. I was scarred for life when the Braves were moved (and have feared ever since that the same fate would befall the Bills). I cannot stomach even the name John Y Brown. 

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  19. 8 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

    Thanks for those numbers on Bennett and Talley.  Two great LB's.  Two great leaders.   Bennett should most definitely be on the wall.  He made so many big plays.  And lets not forget the blocked FG return for the TD against Denver in 1990 that started us on our way to the SUPER BOWL.  Lets hope Edmunds and Millano can play near those two's level.  Millano is not quite that level of an athlete.  But lets hope Edmunds gets there some day.

    That blocked FG return for the TD against Denver in 1990 was epic. We were sitting in the opposite endzone and I don't ever remember screamimg any louder at any Bills game (or any sports event for that matter) his entire 80 yard run down the sideline. As the great Van Miller would say, it was pandemonium, fandemonium. At the end of that run, I don't know who was more gassed, Cornelius or us! To me, Cornelius was an elite football player and put that team over the top. He is more deserving than Talley to be on the Wall and for me it isn't even close. Playmaker.

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