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26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You don’t seem to know the difference from someone calling to ask the impossible and Beane actually considering it.There has absolutely under no circumstance been even been one second of thought by Beane considering whether his answer should be yes or no. The fact you delusionaly think you can “guarantee” it’s happened is maybe the most ludicrous thing I’ve seen written on the board this year.
Not only that, I highly doubt no team in the NFL has even attempted to approach the Bills about a trade for Josh Allen as everyone in the league already knows that not only is he 100% not available, to even begin to get the Bills to think for even 1 second before saying no, the offer would have to be so ludicrous that they couldn’t make that offer in the first place.
To say everyone had a price is such a lazy cop out and a false statement. It takes TWO to make a deal…so it’s not just everyone has a price, there needs to be someone willing to pay that price, and I assure you there are 0 teams that would ever pay the price it would take for Beane to even think about it, let alone say yes.
So sorry, but I guarantee you’re categorically wrong about Beane having considered trading Josh Allen.
1) It's a lazy and irresponsible response to even think that every single player in the NFL is untouchable, that every single player is above an offer or trade, that every single player is of god-like status to their franchise
2) Maybe Beane has never considered trading JA, but he would if the right deal came along, i can assure you that
3) Can you guarantee that no other team since 2018 hasn't called the Bills asking Beane if he has a price or trade value on JA?.....so you're telling me that Beane hasn't gotten even one phone call from 31 other teams about what it would take to let JA walk?........wow, just wow guy.
4) Yes, it takes 2 to make a deal, however, that's if the deal is made.....it only takes one to offer the deal
5) Would any franchise in their right minds want to offer the deal/money/trade capital for what it would take to get JA?.......probably not, but you know there's some fairly stupid franchises out there (i'm looking at you Browns, Jets, etc.) and stupid deals are done in this league all the time......nothing surprises me anymore, including a blind delusional fanbase with very little business insight.
I have spoken.
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3 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:
Have to agree. It's never been considered. The scenario of trading JA is something so ludicrous and detrimental to the franchise its just dumb to talk about...and I would know, I say a lot of dumb things.
You fit right in around here then.
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Fans don't ever want to admit this, but everything is negotiable, and everything has a price.
You can't tell me that Beane already hasn't gotten 8-12 (and even that is probably low) trade scenarios across his desk for JA from other franchises and of course his answer will be no, but offers are considered every day, not every offer is acted upon.
The FO will do their due diligence and consider every offer or trade, but that doesn't mean they will accept any........this, my friends, is business.
JA is a Bill.....he isn't going anywhere.
2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:What makes this trade worse and inherently dumber, is that any future picks from Bears would be late round picks as hey would win too much with Allen. So you’re not even getting good picks back.
Anyone who votes yes should have their account suspended until after the draft because the yes vote is that dumb
Wrong. 0% chance Beane has considered trading Josh Allen. ZERO.Wow, disillusioned.
100% chance Beane has considered trading JA, if the right scenario comes across his desk.........that's business, son.
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17 minutes ago, Gregg said:
Who cares about what if scenarios. I know every team does their due diligence. Franchise QB's while still in their prime don't get moved. Sometimes they will go to another team near the end of their career. Rodgers to the Jets, Montana to the Chiefs, Manning to the Broncos are examples of that but not while they are still in their prime. Franchise QB's are hard to find. As I mentioned look at how long it took the Bills to find one once Kelly retired.
And as fans who are on the outside looking in, you're right that we have the luxury of, who cares about "what if" scenarios. They mean nothing to us, as we don't really care about scenarios that will never come to fruition, however, not once did i ever say our FO was trading JA, nor the fact that any QB in their prime would ever be considered trade bait, so color me confused why you keep throwing that into every thread.......#confused.
Comprehension is a hell of a thing, i suppose.
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8 minutes ago, MJS said:
I wouldn't do it for anything. Do you know how difficult it is to get a top 3 QB? Guys like Josh Allen don't come around very often. I don't care how many 1st round picks you have. You are not likely to get a QB as good as him.
I guarantee you they have NOT considered it. Because they aren't stupid. Beane said he would trade himself first. He knows that there is no chance of that happening.
And i can guarantee that you are wrong.
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You wait and see, big things are coming for Elam.......big things indeed.
It won't be long before Elam's picture replaces JA's on the Wegmans grocery bags.
I called it here first.
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16 minutes ago, Gregg said:
They are not trading Allen. That is insane. Name one franchise QB who was traded when he was in his prime. How many years went by since Kelly retired, and Allen was drafted. Franchise QB's are hard to find. Go ask Jets fans who haven't had one since Namath. The Bills have a lot of picks in this draft. Plus, their cap situation will be much better next year. Window #1 to win a Super Bowl with Allen has probably closed. But as I mentioned Allen will be 28 this year. Beane will rebuild/retool the roster to try and win a Super Bowl with Allen over the next few years. That is the reality of the Bills situation. I was kidding about the Chiefs trading Mahomes. That is about as believable as the Bills trading Allen.
And yet again, oh so close, but it was a shoot and a miss........franchises are not going to trade their best asset, im sure we can agree on that, however, i can guarantee you that they have at least considered it. That is called Business 101, son......(i'll dumb it down a little here)....it's called asset vs. acquisition.
Every team in the league has gone through the scenario of the "do the gains exceed the need". Every franchise has considered a trade of their best asset in terms of gain from the deal.......none ever do it, as it is franchise suicide, however, in order for them to do their due diligence, every possible scenario is on the table.
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2 minutes ago, Gregg said:
Then let KC trade Mahomes for that hypothetical trade package.
Dude, this doesn't even make sense, but i'll humor you.........Mahomo is a multi-SB winning champion, they ain't letting him go at any cost.
We've got the 2nd best QB in the league with very little team around him. If the opportunity comes up to build a whole roster through structural foundation, all on a rookie deal, you have to at least consider it......i guarantee you that our FO have done their due diligence and have at least thought about it......albeit, probably as just a passing glance, but i'm sure the notion has come up, as i'm sure it comes up with every franchise with a legit QB. Now, whether they ever act on it is another story.
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16 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
I bet Allen feels like a guy who just took a dump the size of a lunchbox that pinched off clean in a one wipe situation, precautionary at that.
I equate the Diggs situation as, 7 wipes deep and there's still **** on the paper........ugh.
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58 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
The phrase “not guilty” in a criminal trial is confusing and many don’t know what it actually means because those two words seems to indicate innocent. It needs more context, specifically that you are required to assume the defendant is innocent unless the prosecution shows enough evidence to confirm they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In OJs case I think the jury decided reasonable doubt was that the police were raciat and could have planted the evidence. The evidence was damning but they were able to show blood was missing or unaccounted for and it could have been used to plant evidence.
Recently, jurors have come out on record saying that the not guilty verdict in the OJ trial was a retaliation for the Rodney King incident.
So what i'm saying, is that no matter whether the prosecution has satisfied it's "burden of proof", a jury (in any trial) will side with whatever agenda it perceives and anyone who doesn't see that or still believes in honest and fair trials are severely disillusioned.
Honestly at the end of the day, jurors don't care about right or wrong, guilty or innocent......they know it's not them on trial and most just want to get the hell out of there as quick as possible knowing they are only earning $25 a day to do their civic duty.
So, imagine putting your life in the hands of 12 people who don't know you, don't care about you, are only making $25 a day, have to sit in one spot for sometimes 8 hours a day and really don't care about whatever happens to you because they need to get that trial over quick to get back to their jobs to pay for their homes, their bills and they have to plan what they're going to make for dinner that evening for little Sally, etc.
Being judged by a jury of our peers?.....a fair and honest legal system?.......no such thing.
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8 minutes ago, ddaryl said:
Sweats
Pine Barrens Mafia
nedboy7
KDIGGZ
In other words the "I was so much more happier when we missed the playoffs for almost 2 decades" crew
Hey, don't hate the player, hate the game.
I think if the draft capital is good enough, you have to at least consider it and to disregard this notion, is irresponsible.
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52 minutes ago, Doc said:
LOL! What jokers voted “yes”?
That was me......i like to keep things interesting around here.
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This is a tough one....on one hand, you have the 2nd best QB in the league, but on the other hand, there are some quality QB's in this draft.....unproven, yes, but every QB is unproven when coming out of college and playing their first season in the NFL.
I voted yes, only because if you can get enough draft capital in the next 2 years, you could actually build something special. It seems we're just piecemealing a roster together the past couple of years, but if you can create a structured foundation, you can have a somewhat juggernaut for years to come.....all on a rookie salary.
Would i want this to happen?......probably not, but i wouldn't be upset with it.
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who gives a ****!!!
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38 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Then don't read them.....
wow, your insight is profound......i feel a little dumber for having responded to this.
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All i know is when that white Ford Bronco was involved in that low-speed chase with every cop in L.A. following him, that was some of the best television i have seen in years.
In fact, i remember that me, my wife and my buddies were crowded around the t.v. just waiting for anything to happen. We drank beer all evening and ordered pizza and when the pizza guy showed up, he knew exactly what we were doing cause everyone in town was ordering pizza and glued to the television.
I was really hoping for a shootout.....
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1 hour ago, finn said:
That could just be the laws of probability at work. If every team just threw darts at their draft board, at least some would have good results.
I've always thought the best draft strategy, at least for teams drafting high, would be to trade down incrementally for as many second-round picks as possible, and do the same from the other direction, trading up into the second round. End up with, say, six or seven second-round picks. The odds of hitting gold seem much higher than just two high picks.
That's how i have envisioned our FO making their picks in the draft.......either the dart board or the ole spin the wheel-o-chance.
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The quality of these threads is a total crapshoot IMO
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On 4/5/2024 at 2:37 PM, fan_in_tx said:
This being the case will Diggs help or hurt CJ once the ball starts going somewhere else?
I'm going to tell you what will happen with Stroud....
CJ will distribute the ball around the field, whether Diggs is involved in the play is irrelevant, however, when Diggs believes he's not getting his share of catches, he'll go after Stroud......which in turn, will start to diminish CJ's confidence in leading the team.
I believe, having a player likes Diggs is a bad pairing for a young QB.
Diggs will question every play, every QB decision, everything. He is going to make that kids life a nightmare. He will make him 2nd guess everything and when things get bad enough, CJ will just start distributing the ball around to everyone not named Diggs because he won't want to deal with him, which will make the situation even worse.
The dude is a cancer.......better to gut it and get rid of it, but unfortunately, our cancer is now firmly latched onto another young QB to wreak havoc.
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Von Miller hasn't been right about anything.......hey, maybe the 12th times the charm.
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You just do whatever you want and just keep kicking that can down the road......my theory, is that the further you kick the can, the further it gets away from you, so just keep kicking it as far and as long as you want.
Pay no attention to the Saints......they don't know how to kick a good can far enough........amateurs.
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He doesn't even need to work out......that JA guy is so dreamy.
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Its a sad, sad day when a man's board dries up.
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I suspect he'll be practicing with a wiffle ball......throwing it and catching his own pass.
Epic, Hypothetical Trade Scenario: Would ya?
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Wow, you guys are feisty today