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    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

    No, that's now what I'm saying, although I am in part.   Teams paid big dollars for running backs for several years after it started becoming apparent that the best running backs just weren't worth it.  It took teams a while to catch on.   I think you'll start to see that happen to receivers.   We all were startled when the Chiefs were willing to unload Hill instead of pay him; I think the Chiefs were ahead of the curve. 

     

    Everyone seems to think this is a deep receiver class.   If that's true, and if I'm right, guys drafted in the second and third round will make splashes around the league this season and next.    If that happens, would you rather that Beane (1) traded back and picked up a good receiver and a second pick or (2) traded up for a guy who was only marginally better, giving up draft capital along the way?   I would trade back.  And what will that mean?  It will mean that you don't have to spend big, either in dollars or draft capital, to get a receiver who gets the job done, because if you're running a good offense, there are plenty of guys you can plug into it, and you have a good chance of finding a Deebo (2), a Kupp (3), or a St. Brown (4) outside of round 1.  

     

    Now, there's one big caveat, and that is that this thinking is correct (or at least I think it's correct) only until the defenses adjust, as they always do, and the passing games that the best teams run become less effective.   Offense will then have to adjust, as they always do, and maybe that adjustment will change the value, again, of receivers.  Maybe the new defenses will begin to shut down the short to medium range game, and maybe offenses will counter by putting two or three burners on the field all the time and returning to a quick-strike offense.   If that happens, there'll be a real premium on speed.  In the meantime, however, teams seem to be valuing someone other than the classic stud #1 guy.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ..........agreed 100%

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    Legette vs. McConkey

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    I have no idea why so much love for McConkey.

    I mean, he was good in college, in college schemes as a gadget guy, but i don't know how that equates into our needs on the team. If we were looking for a smaller slot guy, then yeah, maybe pick McConkey but that's not what we're looking for.

     

    And i pray to Christ that if Beane has never heard me before, i hope he's hearing me now that we can surely do better than McConkey can't we?........which i know he isn't listening cause at the end of the day, who am i?

     

    I have problems.

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    Happy draft day all you pancake eating *****....

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    10 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

    Actually, they had a solid QB.  (That was the guy who celebrated with his wife and son when the pick wasn't the QB.)  Bo Callahan was the "flavor of the month," much-hyped QB prospect.  The GM was under pressure by the owner, so he initially thought he needed to make a splash.  

     

    In truth, the script for this movie is far-fetched, but it's an enjoyable watch if you like the NFL draft and Kevin Costner.

     

     

     

     

    Bo Callahan always reminded me of Darnold, Clausen, Mallet, etc.........you know, guys like that.

    Nothing real special long term, but real special on draft day.

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    Things aren't going well in Cincinnati

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    4 hours ago, Gigs said:

    They peaked when they went to the SuperBowl. The Bills have shown they can turn it on and go deep with shoestring and bubblegum outside of Josh Allen, the Bengals not so much. And Glass Burrow has to show he can play more than one full season in his career. 

     

    If the Bengals' window is open, it has a 'no see um' screen in front of it

     

     

     

     

     

    And yet, we can't beat them...........interesting.........interesting indeed.

    Things aren't going well in Cincinnati

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    16 hours ago, Virgil said:

    I can't fault them for the Hendrickson contact, as he has a deal in place.  Not speaking to Tee in a year, that's weird.

     

    In fairness, they have a lot of young talent that deserve huge deals.  Not everyone is going to be happy

     

     

     

     

    I've got a feeling that Cincy is just waiting to see how the draft plays out for them before confronting Higgins with a contract.

    It's here draft day.

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    My favorite night of the year......idiot analysts talking out their ass all night, making stuff up, playing up the Jets and Browns spectacular picks, poo pooing the Raiders picks, Kiper defending any nonsense that comes out his mouth, etc.

     

    It's a great night.

     

     

    Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver

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    For what it's worth, here's my take.....

     

    I don't know x's and o's and i don't know x and y and z WR's......i know none of that, however, i do know that the game philosophy these days is to control the middle. Yes, you want to control the trenches, but controlling the middle has become a huge factor in today's game plans. And contrary to popular belief, we have players that can control the middle, like Knox, Kincaid, Cook, etc.

     

    We do need a WR who can stretch the field and help to open the middle up, however, this narrative that we can't win without one is nonsense.

     

    I have spoken.

    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    12 minutes ago, Logic said:

    Benjamin Albright, who was discussed earlier in this thread and who was all over Allen to Bills and Oliver to Bills early in those draft years, has released his one and only mock draft.

    He has Odunze sliding to 15 and the Colts taking him there.

    He has the Bills "trying and failing to trade up" and then drafting Xavier Worthy at 28.

    Personally, if Odunze DOES slide as far as 15 (which I don't see as likely), I can't imagine the Bills NOT trading up to get him. But it takes two to tango, and if they were to get shut out, Worthy is a fine consolation prize.

     

     

     

     

    I agree, however, having the 28th pick is not really appealing as trade bait to a whole lot of clubs, i would imagine......and every franchise knows we want a WR, so any flexibility in moving up for anyone of impact will be costly.

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    Legette vs. McConkey

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    2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

    McConkey gets a lot of love on this forum, and rightfully so, but can someone please explain how he’d fit in with Shakir and Kincaid? I ask as a legitimate question I’d be interested in hearing feedback on. I don’t understand how we’d use him without taking away from those guys. McConkey as a Buffalo Bill makes no sense to me. 

     

     

     

     

    You are absolutely correct with your question, sir.......for i have also questioned the love of McConkey on these boards for many months. His skillset is much like what we already have on the roster, so i couldn't possibly conceive how our FO would ever want him.

     

    #wtfconfused

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    1st Round Draft Poll...WWBD (what will Beane do)?

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    4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I’ve had this weird feeling that they were going into the top 10 for a while. I thought that when Diggs was here. If I thought it then, I can’t change now that the need is greater. I can’t shake Beane press conference when he talked about how “he would love a Ja’marr Chase but hopes to never finish bad enough to draft one.” To me, I think that he looks at it as, “swing big on a star WR” and avoid paying that giant bill for 5 years. You can allocate that savings, moving forward to pass rush or whatever. The rising cost of elite receivers makes this the right time to swing big. 

     

     

     

     

    What you're saying makes sense, however, Beanes' stated philosophy is to build through the draft every year and you can't do that by blowing your load on one player, leaving very little draft capital left to address other concerns.

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