ChiGoose

“Let’s do something that makes us very unpopular because a generation or two from now, we could have some more voters” -The brilliant Dem immigration plan, apparently I think that the border crisis cannot be solved except for by Congress. Simply militarizing the border will be insufficient because not only would it require an insane amount of resources, many immigrants cross into the US legally and then overstay their welcome. So even if the border was super secure with a bit scary fence and people shooting anyone who gets close to it, you’re still going to have a sizable problem. You need a comprehensive solution that actually gets to the root causes of the issues in addition to more security. But the Dems can’t do that without the GOP who repeatedly admit that they don’t want to solve it. You can do patchwork attempts to mitigate but without Congress taking action, you’re not going to be able to handle the numbers we are currently seeing.

Ok, since it’s obvious that the GOP doesn’t want to solve the border crisis and they admit that they won’t do it for political reasons, yet so many here seem to believe both that the Dems want the border crisis and that the issue hurts them: What is the alleged Dem theory of the case here? Get more immigrants in so that people like Dems less?

“People who wanted law enforcement to do their jobs also want law enforcement to follow the laws.” Shocking!

Are there actually people out there who are so self-deluded that they actually believe that the GOP wants to solve the border crisis? It defies all evidence, logic, root cause analysis, and understanding of political science, so it’s hard for me to believe that there are rubes who actually buy that.

I’m sorry that facts are so hard for you. Must be tough.

Simple: You need proof of intentionality and mere possession is not sufficient proof of intentionality. The laws were written for the more than one million people with security clearance. They clearly have a gap for elected officials.

“I don’t understand how laws and facts work. I just want an excuse to hate people I hate and justify bad behavior by people I like.”

I don’t have certainty that Biden had no knowledge of the documents. That’s why I’m glad he’s being investigated by someone appointed by Trump. I’m not so delusional as to think that the Vice President of the United States personally packs their things to leave, nor am I ignorant of the many failings of controls for government documents. However, at this point we have no evidence that Biden or Pence were personally involved in intentionally taking documents. That may change with Biden depending on the investigation. But Trump was told he had documents and refused to return them despite having no right to them. Had he turned them over when notified, he wouldn’t be in any trouble. He’d be in the same camp as Biden and Pence. His refusal to do so is what makes him guilty.

I honestly don’t understand how people cannot differentiate between turning things over to law enforcement and refusing to turn things over to law enforcement. Feelings gotta feel, I guess. No facts or logic allowed…

You already admitted that you believed that Russia invaded Ukraine because they didn't want it to join NATO. Russia invaded Ukraine for the same reason it invaded other former Soviet republics. It wants to re-establish it's former "glory".

“No you are!” -The guy routinely parroting Russian talking points Very convincing and clever argument there!

Yes, it is very clear that you don’t understand what’s going on.

Depends on how things go in Ukraine. If the Chamberlain caucus gets their way and there’s a ceasefire that expands Russia’s control beyond the 2014 lines (or even just keeps those lines), then the next conflict will probably be another attempt on Kiev after reconsolidating their forces. If Putin gets his way and is able to install a puppet government in Kiev, then Transnistria is probably next. If he keeps being able to push through into Europe while the West continues to capitulate to him, he may try for a conflict with a NATO country like Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, or even Poland if he doesn’t think NATO will live up to its Article V commitments.

I do love that your list of reasons for Russia invading Ukraine doesn’t mention anything about NATO and starts with the real reason that Putin / Russia is revanchist. We are in complete agreement there. I‘m just not optimistic that the guy who has isolated himself from any criticism or pushback will cease aggression once he successfully adds more Ukrainian territory after we stop supporting them and/or push for a ceasefire. Doesn’t seem to fit with the history of Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, and Putin’s whole worldview. He hates NATO and if he thinks he can force its end by showing they won’t honor Article V, he’s going to find it very tempting.

Finland joining NATO basically doubled the length of Russia’s border with NATO countries but Russia did nothing about it. If Russia was attacking Ukraine to prevent NATO encroachment, wouldn’t they have tried to stop Finland from joining? It’s almost as if the NATO talking point is a fig leaf to distract from Russia’s revanchism…

Do you honestly still believe that Russia invaded to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO?

I think this is broadly true. We didn’t expect Ukraine to put up much of a fight given their performance in 2014 (they had been modernizing their army since then but still). We dragged our feet sending weapons because we wanted Ukraine to prove they could be effective and to avoid escalation. Once it became clear that Ukraine could win given the chance and that Putin’s saber rattling was mostly empty threats, we should have just sent over whatever Ukraine wanted. Unfortunately, by then the Neville Chamberlain caucus had seized control of the House.

Please point to where I said Trump was an antisemite

The best way to avoid an expanded conflict would be to provide Ukraine what it needs to stop the Russian aggression before it expands to other countries.

I am not willing to concede that an authoritarian who has spent decades surrounding himself with yes-men and literally murdering anyone who dissents from him has an accurate understanding of reality.

Remember that one of the main reasons that Fox News was created was because Ailes did not want a future Republican president to have to resign for their crimes like Nixon did. For 30 years, what has become the biggest news channel in the country has been focused on pushing feelings to balance out any inconvenient facts. The advent of social media has expounded this problem exponentially as a significant contingent of GOP voters find the propaganda of Fox News insufficient to slake their thirst for emotional validation. They have continued to seek out sources that are less factual than even Fox. The Kremlin, Beijing, and other adversaries are exploiting this. These clickservstives don’t recognize that they are parroting propaganda but their talking points are often indistinguishable from those of the enemies of the US. Putin absolutely would do this to a NATO country if the felt that the alliance was too weak or too cowardly to invoke Article V.

Russia would love to do this to a NATO country. If they succeed here, Moldova is probably next and then NATO countries are on the table. Not to mention that Ukraine isn’t ready for NATO membership anyway. The only thing Putin understands is power, so the only way that Ukraine comes away from this without becoming a Russian vassal is by making it abundantly clear that Russian aggression will end in failure.

Shhhhh…. No thinking or logic is allowed for the appeasement crowd. Just let Russia take some land now. They won’t then continue to wage war just because that is what they’ve always done to appeasers.

It’s the exact same mistake they made with Nagy.

The Bears completely blew it by keeping Eberfluss. They should have fired the coaches to give them maximum flexibility to either keep Fields or draft a new QB considering how poorly the offense has been handled.