ChiGoose

This is the reason I was reluctant to return to this board. By basically every objective metric, the US’s response to COVID was terrible. Compare the per capita statistics to our peer countries and we looked like crap. We were not acting like the best country in the world, but instead like a country of complete incompetence. And it’s totally fine to question different responses by state and local governments. I thought they kept the schools closed too long. The pandemic hit in March, if you close the schools a bit early, then you have the entire summer to figure out how to keep them open in the fall. And prioritizing keeping bars and restaurants open when schools were closed was basically the opposite of what I think they should have done. But the federal government basically just told the states to take care of it. A global pandemic and the feds basically just washed their hands of it and left it to everyone else to figure out. We had states competing against each other to buy PPE from overseas, and then the feds would come over the top and outbid them to hoard supplies for the federal stockpile while people were dying. We had a Republican Governor sneak supplies through in the middle of the night because he was worried the feds would steal the supplies if they knew. You don’t have a functioning federal response when states have to start setting up whole new interstate quasi-governments so they could cooperate instead of compete. We literally have Donald Trump on tape saying in private that this was going to be really bad BEFORE he went out in public and said it was all going to be fine and it would disappear by the summer. It shouldn’t be surprising that you were statistically more likely to die of COVID if you were a Republican. We had a party and leader who were actively putting their supporters in lethal jeopardy and you’re all still kissing his ass. If the president wanted me dead, I wouldn’t be supporting him, not to mention shaping my entire worldview around a fantasy that he is an infallible godking Most of the posts on this board are barely distinguishable from a Brietbart comments section. It’s like all of the uncles that everyone secretly hoped wouldn’t come to Thanksgiving dinner got together to send boomer Facebook memes to each other. No wonder Billstime mostly just posts memes. Trying to engage in good faith with people so ignorant that they spend their time defending someone who basically tried to kill them is basically pointless.

It was him or the guy who just decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die because he couldn’t even be bothered to care about a pandemic. Easy choice.

No, I think the impact of the Jan 6 committee on the election will be minimal. Just wanted to dispel the false narrative that it’s convinced everyone to vote GOP.

Jan 6th committee polling: 40% more likely to vote Dem 31% more likely to vote Rep 29% no effect I wonder if those more inclined to the GOP were just really impressed with all of the witnesses, who were almost all Republicans…

Boy, you seem to be obsessed with straw man arguments almost as much as you’re obsessed with me.

You do know that the committee ends at the end of the Congress, right? So even if they’re hiding the ball and never release a report (which I doubt), when the GOP likely takes over, McCarthy can just release everything. One way or the other, we will see the testimonies. Then again, McCarthy is a moron so he may find a way to screw this up.

Your entire statement here seems to hinge on the incorrect belief that natural immunity lasts longer in children than the vaccine’s effects. “Our results are consistent with more recent research, which shows that children develop neutralizing antibodies, the best marker to date of protective immunity against COVID-19, at least as well as adults. However, the antibody levels after infection were much lower than antibody levels seen after vaccination. The results show that infection in children leads to antibodies that could protect to some degree against future infection or disease, but antibody levels are lower, and so probably less protective, than those after vaccination.” Also, vaccines do help prevent hospitalizations: During March–May 2021, SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines were highly effective for preventing Covid-19 hospitalizations among US adults. SARS-CoV-2 vaccination was beneficial for patients with immunosuppression, but effectiveness was lower in the immunosuppressed population. If you have concerns about the vaccines and whether or not you or a family member should get one, the rational thing to do is to reach out to your primary care physician. They will be able to answer your questions and recommend a course of action.

Where in the article or the documents does it say that Pelosi rejected the request? It looks like the Sgt At Arms rejected it. And if Pelosi really did reject the help (which does not appear to be the case) and you think that’s bad, I wonder what you think about Trump rejecting calls to put an end to the violence for hours. I’m sure that as logical straight shooter, you’re even more upset at that.

…she’s the Speaker of the House. She decides who sits on select committees. Like, this isn’t hard, dude. Also, you seem to believe something that is very much not true: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

LOL. Drinking the Kool Aid, I see. Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan because she suspected they might have been involved in the events leading up to Jan 6 so them serving on the committee would have been a conflict. She would have seated the rest of McCarthy‘s slate. I guess the 9/11 commission was partisan because we didn’t have any Al Qaeda terrorists on it to give their perspective. The Warren Commission was partisan because they didn’t have Lee Harvey Oswald on it (or whoever was on the grassy knoll if you’re one of those people). Every single witness who testified to the committee was either a Republican or non-partisan. If they wanted it to be more bipartisan, they should have had more Democrats testify, I guess.

Questioning of facts is one thing, but the majority of this board is essentially taking that “4 out of 5 dentists recommend trident” and searching for that 5th doctor who recommends chewing on tinfoil. Also, the COVID vaccine does reduce hospitalization in children.

She agreed to three people McCarthy wanted and then he withdrew them either because he’s an idiot or because he felt it would allow idiots to claim that it was Pelosi’s fault there were only two republicans on the committee.

Which one was I wrong on?

I’m not a doctor. He’s certainly lost his fastball but I’ve had family members with dementia and he’s nowhere near as bad as them. Tripping up on words as an elderly person who struggled with a stutter isn’t necessarily dementia. That being said, I’d prefer if he didn’t run for re-election. But hey, at least he isn’t stupid enough to steal government documents, so he’s got that going for him.

Well you all have been complaining about it being one sided and now they’ve subpoenaed Trump to testify. He can finally get to tell his side, under oath. Are you excited? Or do you realize he’s not gonna do it?

I am flattered, but I told you I am happily married.

You posted a lengthy screed full of straw man arguments and fallacies. Why am I obligated to respond point by point?

Pop a Xanax, log off and go outside for a bit. The internet is rotting your brain.

Eh, predictions are tough. I didn't think that Americans would be stupid enough to elect a failed businessman (several times over) and obvious conman as president but Trump proved me wrong in 2016. One of the few perks of being on PPP is seeing what the most ignorant people in the world actually believe. While it makes me sad about the state of our country, at least I can see the idiocy firsthand to see what's coming down the line.

The following things are true and anyone who disagrees is not expressing an opinion but actually betraying their own ignorance: - Trump won the 2016 election - Biden won the 2020 election - The Russia investigation was not a hoax - COVID is not a hoax - Getting a COVID vaccine reduces your chances of severe COVID or hospitalization - JFK Jr. is dead. He’s not coming back to take the presidency. - QAnon is a hoax (and we likely know who is currently posting under that identity) - The moon landing was real - George Soros isn’t secretly behind everything - Hillary Clinton isn’t secretly behind everything - Barack Obama isn’t secretly behind everything - Hillary Clinton didn’t have Seth Rich murdered These are all facts and despite that, the majority of posters on this board disagree with at least one of them. That’s not them expressing an opinion, it’s them being stupid. It’s like saying 2+2=Banana. But for some reason, about 90% of the people on PPP believe 2+2=Banana and try to “own” anyone who disagrees.

LOL. I wasn’t the one tagging someone who hadn’t posted in weeks and then tagging them in a random thread they hadn’t participated in. I was starting to think you had a crush on me because I’d clearly been on your mind.

Sometimes it’s fun to stare at the train wreck. It’s like being on a flat-earther forum.

Given the level of intelligence and sanity on this board, I’d be worried if most of you all agreed with me. Like, if any of most of the posters here agreed with something I said, I’d have to re-evaluate my position. I’ve just been shouting into a void of ignorance. Never expected much to come of it, honestly.

No, I have a life and had more important things to do than argue with the most ignorant people on the internet.