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21 hours ago, prissythecat said:
I think Derek Carr has regressed to the mean. I wouldn't be surprised it Raiders end up at bottom of Division as others have predicted.
He did too much good up until last year for me to buy this. I want to give him a year before I judge. But I get others apprehension at this point.
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I picked the Chargers but I do think people are selling the Raiders short. Last year they were Super Bowl favorites etc.. blah blah but they still do have a strong offense. They are like the Cowboys if the defense does enough while the offense is rolling they can make noise.
With that said I rank like this:
1. Chargers (Best roster, can they finally break through after so many disappointments?)
2. Raiders (I buy the offense and think last year was a blip. They can be a WC team IMO)
3. Chiefs (If Mahomes is real I think the offense can get them to 9-7. But the defense is too shaky the rest of the way)
4. Broncos (They have the hallmarks of a organization headed down all together. QB is most likely a one year wonder, defense is losing its glue, head coach made everything worse, and the ownership is turning into a cluster fight between family which never goes well. Denver has been consistently good forever but I think this could be the start of some long dark years like we saw)
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There are very few bell cow RB's like Shady, Bell, or Zeke who take 90% of the carries. Teams do RB by committee and don't pay the position like they use to because a RB's shelf life is usually so short now.
The other thing is not only with the league moving to be a passing league, but teams running 3, 4, even 5 WR formations teams have 2 to even 3 good-great WR's that share the ball there. I mean heck Brandin Cooks whose a pretty dang good WR himself with considered expendable enough to be traded twice and I think he is better the Michael Thomas. But with how WR's get paid and the fact you can get guys cheaper in the draft I would say even the WR position outside of your elite guys like ODB, Brown, AJ Green etc.. teams are only willing to pay a certain price.
Basically with QB's now being valued more highly then ever teams are very budget conscious and forcing hard decisions on which players to spend on.
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1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:
You also would have to add on the extensive work that would be needed downtown with land acquisition, demolition, infrastructure, impact studies, etc.
A new building on the current 'campus' would be much cheaper than downtown.
Much cheaper is a relative thing. The cost is around $500 million for Reno vs a new which could be the same potentially or in the $600-700 million range. Neither situation is cheap straight up. It's going to be a massive investment in either scenario and for the team, region, politicians, etc.. its a valid question to ask whether to rebuild or go new when the costs are massively different. The studies have been done on locations a few years ago.
I get that your one of the fans which things are perfect and if for eternity things never changed for Bills stadium you would be fine with that. There however are many who are not that way and wayy more forces then just us fans at play that will dictate will the Bills play. If you don't think the city of Buffalo would love to take in the tax revenue that Orchard Park gets plus the general aura/prestige of having the team downtown your dead wrong. Doesn't mean there going back either, but the grand picture is massive.
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I covered this in my thread a few months ago the link is here:
The cost for a new stadium vs a renovation of the Ralph is very similar with the renovation cost nearing $500 million off recent estimates. For that price your pretty close to a new stadium if they choose to want one and its a valid thing to consider when that time especially considering how much the Pegula's have invested in downtown.
What I said in no way reflects my personal opinion for or against a stadium it just simply is the numbers and what has been reported.
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I prefer 2018 for RB, WR and 2017 for O-line.
TE is a wash same group.
QB is unknown at this point but I think they should have a bit more success now with Coleman and the scheme they are running. Zay Jones is frankly where he should've been before in the WR4 spot assuming he even makes the team. Cam Phillips has been sensational in camp and I'd put him over Zay at this point.
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Sgt Pepper (Although I highly respect your inclusion of Abbey Road that would be 2nd for me)
Nevermind (As a 90s kid this blew our doors off)
Zeppelin I
My Dark Beautiful Twisted Fantasy
59 Sound
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Oh I have nooooo problem picking against the Bills in a pick-em pool I say keep them in. And this is an excellent idea
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haha these are my fav football piece to read pre season starting
Just now, YoloinOhio said:I expect the Bills version to be very entertaining. So much material - from Russ Brandon to Richie to Josh Allen to Shady...
My favorite thing I ever read is someone compared a Bills tailgate to the battle of carthage lol
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57 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I was never a Tyrod fan but he was a solid game manager. He doesn’t put you over the top but he doesn’t lose you games. It was tome to move on but it’s not hard to see why national people think we might regress without him.
Exactly. He is a solid enough starter that with some pieces your offense can be pretty decent for the most part but he won't win you the game with his arm. If you have a 3-5 year period where your defense is really good he certainly can manage your team to some 10-6/11-5 years. But he isn't a guy like some media make it that will single handidly carry you to 9-10 wins just by himself the way Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Ben, and even lesser QBs like Wilson, Stafford, Ryan, and Rivers have. And that's what leads to the fighting between people because he is serviceable enough and with help can be pretty decent. But if Josh McCown was the Bills QB who is another good serviceable enough starter last year they probably beat Jax because he can pass better.
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If their 3-5 the season is going better then I expect and the idea of 8-8 9-7 doesn't seem wild in the least to me
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This morning was awful and I did email the guy Jeremy White said to contact. Such a joke that corporate forces a switch from a perfectly fine service to one that is terrible and literally makes it impossible to listen.
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9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
Why exactly does it "have to go down"? Is there some NFL rule that says we have to? What will the NFL do if we dont? Kick us out? They didn't kick out KC, Chicago, or Green Bay. Our stadium is newer than those.
just say no.
Once again I posted a thread weeks ago explaining GB has renovated the stadium for a combined $500 million, Chicago built a new stadium on the old one for $383 back in 2002, and KC did a $375 million dollar renovation. So no our stadium is not newer then any of those and the question which will be posed is a Ralph renovation is estimated just under $500 million. For that price tag is it worth rebuilding or just moving new to downtown.
If you honestly think that the owners in the NFL who are some of the richest and greediest people you will find aren't putting significant pressure on the Pegula's for a new stadium and that the Pegula's themselves don't at least want to consider a stadium by all of their investment downtown then your a fool.
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6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:
I appreciate the breakdown and the enthusiasm but I think the real world is a bit more harsh on all this. The NFL loan will have to be repaid over time so that means the Pegula's themselves or through the team will have to shoulder 400 million which they have made no public gesture saying that they want to do that. In addition they are probably under pressure by other NFL owners to milk the government so as not to undermine any future efforts by the NFL to get government money. The state we can only guess about but I have my doubts about. Erie County and the City of Buffalo I have the greatest doubt about even though they would be in theory coming up with a small chunk of the money. There might be 250K residents in the city but quite a few are probably not breadwinners. Let's say factoring in children and retirees that there only 50K wage earners in Buffalo with a considerable number pulling in minimum wage so that tax per wage earner who pays the property tax means an additional 200 dollars per taxpayer per year. Similar story across Erie County when the contribution is figured by wage earner who pays the property tax bill. It might be more fair to say the city/ county together versus the city alone would contribute 100 million over 10 years but will the two pull together or will one push for the other to shoulder the larger part of the bill?
Don't disagree with anything you have to say. The whole thing will be fascinating and the real world will be harsh on both sides. People need to be ready for fake threats of moving or government making too big of promises at points etc.. It won't be pretty but its going to have to go down.
Also even if just comes down to tax breaks or increases on taxes on things like soda, beer, hotel etc.. like other cities have done that is money which could be used for more valuable projects.
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6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:
130 million is a long ways from a Heinz Field type half billion dollar project never mind something more elaborate. 130 million is not enough to get NYC area politicians up in arms over or that 130 million would have been much harder to come by if not at all. Let's not pretend that legit expenditures in WNY are of great importance to the politicians in Albany.
I wrote an thread weeks ago that dove into the entire cost breakdown of a new stadium with research and numbers backing it up etc.. The Bills can get $200 million from NFL in loan type fund, they pledge $200 million, state 100 million, and city/county $100 million there's your new stadium. It will be a split job if its a new stadium that looks something like that.Breaking down the city/county piece lets just say the city of Buffalo offers $100 million which is paid back over 10 years. There are 250k residents currently its breaks down to about $40 more in taxes per year. Now your absolutely right to question if that is the best use of funds but that is the breakdown. OR the government does a Sin Tax on alcohol or hotel occupancy etc..
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3 hours ago, RochesterRob said:
Once again I would say nobody wants to pay for it or we would be past the preplanning stage now. Word is Pegula has been quietly working on his end by acquiring a few businesses that would be associated with such a project but no doubt waiting for the county and the state with neither stepping up and very doubtful that they will.
NYS commuted $130 million to a damn renovation. Stop saying people won't pay for it, if this team ever hinted leaving people would be up in arms.
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24 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
We don't need no stinkin' new stadium.
Have any of yall been to any of the fancy new fangled stadiums? I went to a game the Super Dome once and it was very odd. Football being played in an unnatural environment., I went to the draft in Dallas. It would be like going to a football game in a movie theater. Fuggedaboutit. Be careful what you ask for ...
Like it or not the long term future will require a future stadium whether at the Ralph or a new stadium to be updated and it will have some elements that cater to a richer and more family based crowd. The cost to renovate the Ralph is estimated right around $500 million so its a good serious question do you rebuild or relocate new? I get you and every other fan who will talk the tailgate environment and culture blah blah blah. They don't entirely care about that and if they can make a stadium downtown near everything else they own that will make more money while still maintaining some tailgate culture they will do so.
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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Hospitality tents, get your receiver gloves ready!
To this day probably one of the single funniest moments in training camp history
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15 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...deep "a bit more"?......DOWNFIELD was uncharted, off limits territory for chrissake......damn WR's were MORE stationary than RW's statute out front of the joint and TT STILL couldn't find 'em.....yup, a REAL threatening passing game......TE's running 6 yd fly patterns should rack up plenty of "W's"......good Lord............
I'm pretty sure the RW statue gets more coverage from fans then a Bills WR downfield
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1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:
As I mentioned in another post, I can see them starting the season 3-3. Balt, SD and Tenn.
The Bills as of recent years seem to start off better than most pundits think.
First 7 games last 4 seasons: 2014/ 3-4, 2015/ 3-4, 2016/4-3, 2017/ 5-2
Yep and actually not just the last 4 seasons but you have to go back to 2010 being the last time the Bills were hot garbage at midway point:
2010: 0-8
2011: 5-3
2012: 3-5
2013: 3-5
2014: 5-3
2015: 4-4
2016: 4-4
2017: 5-3
The only season were mid point they really were toast was 2010. The rest of the years they actually in a playoff spot, right on the brink, or at least close enough prompting our "in the hunt" jokes. The Bills have only started 0-2 once since 2010 and that was 2016 which they got to 4-2 pretty quick right after. The middle to end of the season has always been the issue.
The thing I think that hurts is the lack of home games in Sept/Oct. The team has usually played pretty well at home since 2010, but we only get two games until the MNF vs NE. Kinda sucks and is super unfair in my opinion when you typically are only given about a 40% chance to win on the road as is before factoring in matchup.
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I would say go BPA and rank the positions like this as currently constructed:
QB: INC won't know until Allen gets a few seasons to see
RB: B- Shady is going to age or leave at some point, with him your have a great player but you need to insulate with youth which we don't have
WR: D- After Benjamin it is just soo many question marks and teams these days use 3 WR's formations regularly.
OL: C But like I said so hard to know until Groy, Teller, Bodine play and we see what we have. LT hopefully is set with Dawkins
DL: C+ The Bills really could use a guy that is a true disrupter off the edge. Even if Hughes, Lawson, & Murphy do well they could use a blue chip edge rusher to really solidify the edge. The middle is fine and I am high on Harrison Phillips, but we need another guy drafted there to help for depth.
LB: B I buy the Milano & Edmunds combo hard and this grade could elevate if both play to the potential we've seen/said to have in each player. Just need a guy long term on the other OLB spot but still like this a lot.
CB/SAF: A Need depth and at some point another true starter but they have a lot of great pieces to work with.
So I would focus WR/OL/DL next draft pretty heavy.
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If this game was in Buffalo I would favor the Bills, but being in Baltimore I do think they have the advantage. That said if the Bills win it looks something like this:
17-13 type game.
Buffalo has to get two touchdowns and the defense needs to force a turnover to help out will limiting the Ravens from getting inside the 40 so Tucker can't hit like you said because the dude is a Cyborg haha. The rest of the game needs to be ball control/field position type game. The last time we played Baltimore the killer play was the deep pass Flacco to Mike Wallace and they have a similar guy now with John Brown. If the Bills defense doesn't allow any big plays Buffalo should win IMO.
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1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:
I’m looking forward to josh Allen throwing a bad interception and the board having a meltdown.
Hahahaha yea that is gonna be a fun day
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10 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:
Oh no...bawaaah....we gonna suck! We no longer have our 6th Rd. Teantive career backup to lead us to 29 th in offense and 31st in passing...we just don't have a QB who can do better! We don't have any wrs like we did last year....oh wait..we actually have a healthy kb before Halloween...and we have Zay going into his 2nd year when he didn't make the probowl last year.....and we lost a 35 yr. Old headcase and an average center! Omg we are gonna suck!!!!
It's funny how people can't take criticism and respond without picking facts or throwing out absolute arguments without giving any reason to the other side. If you want a powder puff commentary on the Bills then you might as well leave the internet period.
Bills website
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I know a few weeks ago someone had a thread about how the Bills website was pretty blah and all. Turns out it is that way for every team. Looks like the NFL forces all teams to use the same platform which is pure garbage.