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If were going actual production and not just talent/potential I would go in this order:
1. London Fletcher (Dude might make the HOF)
2. LeSean McCoy (Recent but dear god is he good)
3. Kyle Williams (Enough said)
4. Fred Jackson (Enough said)
I understand those who would say Marshawn Lynch but he really made his mark more in Seattle.
NOW If we going off of talent regardless of if they actually hit their full potential my list looks like this:
1. CJ Spiller (He had one season where we saw what he really could do and before and after that season Chan couldn't out how to use him enough. I really believe had he had the proper coach and injuries didn't effect him the guy could've been an all time great. Different team and offense and I believe his story is far different)
2. Kyle Williams (If he wasn't in Buffalo aon a team that makes the playoffs a lot he might be in the discussion for the HOF some day. His numbers were always good and his play had almost zero drop off for a decade)
3. Eric Wood (When an offense is good and the QB play is good the line gets credit fair or not. Wood has always played at a pretty high level and with a better QB I think it would've enhanced his career)
4. Antoine Winfield (BUF completely botched this thinking Nate Clements was the better player and not wanting to pay him money to stay here. Clements was decent, but Winfield turned into a Pro Bowl CB and had a far longer more productive career. If the Bills had kept Winfield they don't end up drafting McKelvin because Clements leaving after 06 forced that draft pick and wasn't worth the money he wanted, Winfield was.)
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1 hour ago, The 9 Isles said:
Just thinking about how relatively well McCown has done for the Jets this year. He is AFC player of the week this week.
If TT had been picked up by someone else last off season and we picked up McCown as a place holder I think we would be sitting in one of the wild card spots right now.
It"s just a thought. I ready for all the aggressive flames coming my way.
McCown - 2017Comp - 67.8Yards - 2,880TD - 18Int - 8Qbr - 96.7Taylor - 2017Comp - 63.2Yards - 2,090TD - 12Int - 4Qb r- 88.6Not a huge difference in passing stats but that does not tell the whole story as everyone knows. This team seems to always bring out the woulda, coulda, shoulda’s. Oh well, maybe we finally get QB this draft. We’ll see.
I think this is fair and I would say the Bills are 7-5 not 6-6. However Taylor in the ATL/DEN game did some plays to stay in the pocket that McCown just isn't doing because he doesn't have the mobility. So I think the Bills probably win CIN/NYJ but flip ATL back which means their AFC conference record is even better.
The fun thing with McCown is the Bills actually wanted him first over Taylor in 2015 and he chose CLE lol. It is very possible the drought mayyyy have ended sooner with McCown in 15 or 16 just because he can pass decently and move the ball pretty well.
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15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Aren't we like 2-0 in red?
1-1. Won in 2015 in Red lost in 2016.
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This is a look at where the Bills are at in regards to their 2018 depth chart not including any additions FA/Draft. I will highlight the needs and grade each spot, but not say Sam Darnold for sure will be the new starting QB etc...
QB: Nathan Peterman
Grade: D-
Draft Need: Round 1 or 2 at latest.
The only reason I didn't put this as an F is Peterman is still young and raw so there is a small chance he could be a serviceable backup. Tyrod will be let go because of his cap hit which will give the Bills some more space. The Bills need to draft a QB in either round 1 or 2, a stop gap solution like a Josh McCown will be viewed by fans as an utter failure.
RB/FB: McCoy, DiMarco
Grade: B-
Draft Need: Rounds 4-7 somewhere in there and perhaps a guy in FA also.
McCoy himself is an A+, but they have nothing after him in depth and DiMarco has been average at best. Lately you can find pretty serviceable RB in the later rounds as Kareem Hunt and other recent rookies have shown. Given the Bills needs they would be wise to address this later in the draft.
WR: Benjamin, Z. Jones, Andre Holmes, Brandon Riley
Grade: C+ but partially incomplete
Draft Need: Rounds 3-6 or FA.
The WR position has been a weakness this year but you could also say its hard to judge because the QB play has been so weak. Assuming Benjamin can stay healthy and Zay keeps developing that isn't a bad starting point, but they could use a WR like Torrey Smith-esq in the draft or FA to add another dimension on offense.
TE: Clay, RFA's Thomas & O'Leary
Grade: B-
Draft Need: Rounds 5-7 or FA
This position has actually been an area of strength IMO this year for the Bills. Clay has been quite good all season, Thomas has made some good plays, and even O'leary has grown a bit into a competent player. I really don't see the Bills doing much here unless there is a guy in the draft during the late rounds they really want. Given their needs elsewhere this isn't as large.
Offensive Line: Wood, Incognito, Groy, Miller, Ducasse, Glenn, Mills, Dawkins
Grade: C+
Draft Need: Rounds 2-6 and FA
The offensive line is like a tale of two cities. Wood & Incognito are pretty good and dependable, but Mills Glenn Ducasse & Miller are all major weak links or injured to the point their value isn't there. Even with Dion Dawkins looking like a good find for the Tackle spot the Bills desperately need another guard and tackle in the draft and free agency for depth. I don't think they far away from being a Top 10 unit again but they need to fix some areas badly and probably trade or cut Glenn if they can for cap reasons.
Defensive Line: Hughes, Lawson, Davis, Washington
Grade: D-
Draft Need: Rounds 1-3 and FA
It's crazy to think that as recently as the 2015 season the Bills had one of the most feared D lines in football but that sadly has evaporated quickly. With Marcell Dareus traded and Kyle Williams most likely retiring after this year and slowing down with age this year the Bills are incredibly weak at DT. Jerry Hughes is an enigma at DE who is talented and makes some plays but also needs good running mates to really hit his stride. After that Adolphus Washington is very average and Shaq Lawson is looking more and more like a player who won't hit his potential. Realistically the Bills need to draft a DT with one of their 1st or 2nd round picks who can start and sign a guy for example like Dontai Poe to give the DT position some real teeth again. DE they can try and add some depth in FA and maybe they could draft a guy in rnds 3-5, but Hughes and Lawson are serviceable enough for another year.
Linebacker: Lorenzo Alexander, Matt Milano, Tanner Vallejo, Nordly Capi, & Deon Lacey
Grade: C-
Draft Need: Rounds 1-3 and FA
I was going to put this as a D also but Milano has looked very promising to the point that they mayyy have one spot filled if he keeps playing the way he has and if the coaching finally just lets him start. Alexander is not a bad guy for pass rushing and I think would be serviceable as a depth guy. BUT they desperately need a LB with speed that can cover potentially even more then they need a DT. They will need to not only draft a LB in rnd 1-2 but also add a guy in FA who can be solid starter. I hated that they didn't resign Zach Brown or someone talented like him this offseason because he was a far more solid option then what they currently are running.
CB: White
Grade: Incomplete (White B+ though)
Draft Need: Rounds 2-5 and FA
Tre White already looks like a bonefied star and 10 year starter at CB so that helps tremendously building the rest of the CB group. I listed this grade as incomplete because EJ Gaines and Leonard Johnson are FA's. With both in the lineup when they are healthy I would say the CB group grades out at a solid B to B+ range. But I don't see the Bills signing Gaines after a certain dollar amount and he may get more money on the open market. Johnson is more a 4th CB spot then nickel so we will see how the Bills value him. IF the Bills let both walk they will need a new CB2 and NCB plus depth. If that is the situation they need to draft a guy and add a solid veteran in FA.
Safety: Poyer, Hyde
Grade: A-
Draft Need: Rounds 5-7 or FA
The Bills hit home runs this off season with the signing of Hyde & Poyer. I don't think anyone could have predicted how good each would end up playing and at least Hyde deserves a Pro Bowl bid if not Poyer also. They do need to draft a guy or more likely add a veteran so if an injury hits they have a capable backup something they did not have on roster this year when Poyer was out.
Overall the Bills have more holes then they probably can fill in one draft and they will need to add another impact player or two in FA to help truly strengthen the roster. One issue I see arising is the Bills moving a decent amount of capital to grab the QB they want. If the Bills give up a 2nd and a 3rd to jump and grab their guy at QB, that only leaves them with a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd to fill needs at LB, DT, OL, & CB. And that is making the assumption that the guys you draft in rounds 1,2, and possibly 3 all can start. I don't think the Bills are in the worst situation either, shrewd drafting and FA can certainly help to build on the areas of strength they have. But the room for error will be quite low for this draft.
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1 minute ago, Doc said:
Maybe it is a lot of Bills fans. But why would you get rid of him? Is he a cancer? Not buying-in? Unproductive? A troublemaker? Easily replaceable? The answers to all are "no." And the caps savings are minimal.
He's on pace for 1100 yds rushing 400-500 yds receiving and is a major focal point of the offense. Assuming the Bills draft a new QB why would they dump an incredible asset that takes pressure off of the kid when he has shown zero signs of slowing down cap space be damned.
If you are the GM wouldn't you rather your rookie QB has Benjamin, Jones, McCoy, & Clay as his weapons to start?
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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Hard for me not to feel as though the plan is set to try and stay at 6 wins for draft reasons. I expect to hear that Peterman is starting the rest of the season because Taylor is out and not "completely" healthy.
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16 hours ago, Steptide said:
I understand that our record on mnf since the 07 Dallas Monday night game is bad. Actually we don't even have a win on mnf since 07.
However, every Monday night game we've been on has been great (from an entertainment standpoint). Set your bills Fandom aside for a minute and think of our Monday night games starting with Dallas.
Dallas 07
Cleveland 08
Patriots 09
Cleveland 13
Patriots 15
Seahawks 16
I may have forgotten one, but all the ones I listed were great games (again from an entertainment standpoint). All had close scores and some came down to the final minute or second. Imo the NFL should absolutely give the bills at least one mnf game a year.
Pretty simple because of the number of years we have been irrelevant we are not a big ratings team. It isn't a surprise that when Rex came here we got a game each year because he attracts media.Additionally the NFL no longer has it mandatory that every team plays a night game due to ratings falling. I would expect more of the same 12-14 teams next year as they fight the ratings. Game quality frankly doesn't matter its market/relevance, the NFL could care less how many entertaining games we have had.
AND it is well known the Bills very much prefer 1pm games at home which is why even for TNF we are on the road more then home. Because of the distance fans drive from all over they do try to accommodate for that. I know the team in general prefers having 5 of their home games in Sept-Oct because of weather and travel. Add in fan behavior being at nights game at home also and you have your answer of why it is so infrequent. Personally I hate playing at 1 pm every Sunday and wish we had a 4-5 4 pm games along with 2 night games a year but I don't run any of that.
1 hour ago, Chris66 said:Nfl is punishing Buffalo for not building a stadium. Guarantee once you have one you will get more.
Oh yea thats a big thing too. The stadium is an absolute b*tch for night games to setup, networks hate it and that is a major factor also.
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1 hour ago, Rigotz said:
No, I'm not being sarcastic.
Last year, we went 7-9.
In the off-season and during 2017, we lost:
-Our three best wide receivers
-Our two best corners
-Our pro-bowl DT
-Two starting linebackers
We gained:
-An unheralded FS and SS (Hyde and Poyer)
-An unheralded CB (Gaines)
-A better kicker (Haushka)
-A great WR for one game (Benjamin) and throw-in (Matthews)
Most of us thought it would be a 4-12 season.
To take that many personnel losses and IMPROVE to 8-8 or 9-7 with a significantly worse roster...
To me, that's impressive.
The luster loses it shine when you realize how close we were to breaking the drought in a year with a weak AFC and schedule that offered that chance assuming they don't make it in. I agree progress has been made but it is also very possible that we actually have a worse record next year despite a better roster.
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2 hours ago, cba fan said:
I hear you, however, My opinion is if they kept Watkins Goodwin Seymour JWill Gillessee Bradham Ragland Dareous they would be vying for 2nd seed in playoffs right NOW just behind Pats or Steelers. They then could have blown things up a little after the season.
This 18 year drought needs to be put to bed for all people concerned. Players owners fans coaches. It was right there for the taking in weak AFC this year and Buffalo Punted like losers do.
I get you you especially on this. What really sucks is they seem to most likely be blowing a insanely easy year and chance to make the the playoffs. If either CIN or NYJ were a W people would be excited right now even after this loss. Sadly even at 9-7 we need a bunch to go our way. And that is why I didn't want to trade Watkins, he would've given the offense another weapon and with Benjamin out they still don't have a guy to stretch it or go up for 50/50 balls.-
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2 hours ago, cba fan said:
I'd say all the moves are wrong except the Benjamin trade. And not retaining overpaid non tackling 3 or 4 good games a year Gilmore.
Watkins(low cost)and Goodwin(low cost)are the pieces the WR corp misses most.
Woods is 1000% better then Matthews.
Seymour would be starting.
Dareous would be healthy now and plugging the sieve middle of what now loosely is called run defense.
Ragland would be a two down run stopping force again for what Bills completely suck at now.
Darby would be a low cost fine back up, spot starter, nickel back, better than anyone not named White or Gaines.(Gaines was odd man out in LA and could have been had for a 6th)
Bradham better than any current Bills LB except maybe Milano.
Gillesse would have been the 2nd best RB on Bills.
JWill, see Gillessse.
Lee on practice squad would have been a force Bills lack right now.
DiMarco is not a good NFL player.
Tolbert is the worst 2nd string RB 3rd down RB in NFL.....how can coaches think he is anything other than a situational FB?
Milano should be starting.
Peterman start was too soon.(I give credit it was a ballsy measured risk to see if anyone can score with this putrid offense)
You are delusional if you think all the moves where spot on. Many who think that way think all the traded dropped players were all cancers in the locker room. None of that can be confirmed from any reputable source. They replaced good young talent and now have one of the oldest rosters in NFL. That is not how you do a rebuild.
And this is why when Whaley went on his spending spree's/Dareus contract signed people said they better win and perform otherwise it will bite them hard. Bradham, Gilislee & Woods are guys who our cap cost us losing them more than anything else. Watkins production didn't warrant the contract he wants and the potential for injury because of previous seasons made sense in trading him. I still would not have traded him but I do get the logic and the return was good. Dareus was traded because of the contract more then his play. It's not entirely fair to blame McD/Beane for the current situation when they basically were handcuffed because of the previous GM's $ decisions.
I hated losing Woods & Bradham because they were consistent solid performers you need for a good team.
It's easy to look and say well this guy is doing well over here we should have kept him. The Patriots have lots of guys every year that show up outta nowhere because they have a good roster that allows fringe players to be highlighted. Your mad about Ragland but I am more mad they didn't keep Zach Brown who wasnt expensive. And not starting Milano will haunt them soon.
Overall its a mix bag and a lot of the current problems/decisions made stem because of the previous guy. The fastest way to reset the deck was to free up a lot of cap and use some vets on the fly to stay alive. This off season as I have posted is where the real work and impact good or bad will come from.
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12 hours ago, Foreigner said:
The personal decisions made by this regime continue to be so poor and call it what you wish; insane,
rediculous or whatever.
A unknown named Eric Lee was all over the field including the Bills backfield today. Where did he
come from? If you guessed the Bills, you guessed right. He appears to be a better LB by far than
anyone the Bills have, but our defensive genius Coach deemed him only good enough to be on
the practice squad, from where the Pats grabbed him on Nov. 11. He was called a pro bowler on TV.
How did you like Gilmour's play breaking up pass after pass, and Marquis Goodwin line today was
8 receptions for 99 yards. And another reject, Sammy Watkins another TD.
Why would another QB want to come here when he has what appears to be a bust (Jones),
Matthews (another bust), Holmes (another bust) Benjamin (injured when he got here, duped by Carolina).
All our talent at WR were sent packing. This is really amazing and sad at the same time.
At least in regards to Eric Lee I would say use extreme caution emotionally. Every year we play the Patriots and some unknown from us or someone else has a big game because that is what they do. They are very well coached and have a lot of good players so even fringe guys have banner days. Jerry Sullivan use to do an article every season of the RB's who have ran for over 100 yds against BUF from NE alone and the amount of no namers is amazing.
It's gotten to the point with the Patriots I void myself of any reaction to their games because its like playing on a different universe.
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5 minutes ago, mannc said:
How did you reach this conclusion? We don't have to read peoples' minds; intent is inferred from their actions. If I punch someone in the face, the law will correctly presume that I intended to injure him.
You don't think Gronkowski's hit could have done the same to White?
Probably because if you had any reading comprehension he said as much after the game that he was pissed wanted to hit him but didn't intended to hurt him. In Moore's case by Bertuzzi it was known before the game that they wanted to get him back and take him out. That's premeditated.
And Gronks hit didn't do the same to White. If White had a broken neck and taken out on a stretcher yea I'd want criminal charges. That's not the case and context matters.
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1 minute ago, Paulus said:
Lmao, what a load of crap. It was because it happened maliciously and outside the scope of the game.
Right hitting a guy late after a play with an elbow, as opposed to grabbing a guy forcing his head and neck into the ground as hard as possible and then proceeding to punch him repeatedly which ended his career and broke his neck altering his life forever seems like a bit of a difference.
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1 minute ago, Paulus said:
That guy got a criminal charge, no?
Correct because it was a deliberate hit that was premeditated by a previous incident the NHL bff'd badly.
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9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
This shows your extreme ignorance of the legal system. Quit while you’re ahead.
Funny because I have seen hits during plays while a game is occurring that are deliberate and malicious which did bring it far more severe action.
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6 minutes ago, mannc said:
It makes a huge difference. It can mean the difference between a mere unnecessary roughness penalty and a criminal act. You've been asked to name the five other actions that you believe were worse than one Gronk did and all you did was refer to a bunch of dirty hits that happened during the course of a football play. None of them comes close.
BS. I play hockey and have seen guys run another during a game with a clear intent to injure. I have seen the same after the whistle is blowing or a stick swung to injure. So no I don't separate the game from when the play happens and after because in both cases people act like complete jack a**es. Bertuzzi straight up mugged Moore during the game while the happening and broke his neck.
I've said repeatedly Gronks play was stupid and dangerous. I do not believe it was done with intent to injure however, I do believe he wanted to hit him because he was pissed off he even said as much after.. That doesn't matter because the outcome took our guy out and he should be suspended 3-5 games. Burfict's hit on Brown could've killed or broke his neck and his track record says as much that he is a straight thug when he plays.
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1 minute ago, mannc said:
You don't get it, do you? All of those Burfict hits and the one by Kiko occurred as part of a football play. Gronkowski's assault occurred when White was lying on the ground, well after he was tagged by another Patriot.
Makes no difference to me dirty is dirty whether during the play or after and stupidity happens regardless. If we are going to start saying people should be arrested for assault after plays the same can be applied during the game. It was an awful dirty play that occurred in the long list of ones done by players in the NFL and sports in general. If he receives a one game suspension or none then yea I'll be mad as hell. But otherwise if he gets a few games then it is what it is from there. I would expect the Bills to probably take some liberties comes the 24th though and if I was coach of the Bills I'd tell my players to do as much.
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3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
No give a specific example. You’re the one who said you’ve seen dirtier hits. You must have one in your memory then.
Broncos vs Cam Newton season opener in 2016 especially Stewart on Newton. Or Kiko on Flacco this season was far worse to me.
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Just now, Lfod said:
Can you provide a link to those videos? I'm curious to see far worse dirty hits.
Just watch the Steelers Bengals WC game for starters from 2 years ago for starters. Burfict alone has a highlight real worth of hits.
1 minute ago, mannc said:Name one.
Kiko Alonso on Joe Flacco a few weeks ago for starters or as I said above the entire Bengals Steelers WC game was a straight joke by both teams.
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Just now, dorquemada said:
The NFL can't have it both ways. Either they are concerned with brain injuries or they aren't. If the NFL isn't going to address the issue, it falls on outside entities to do so. That could be the NFLPA, it could be the DA
I have see far worse hits then what Gronk did in the last 5 years and those didn't require nor should they have a DA being involved. People commenting for the justice system to get involved are a straight embarrassment to the fan base.
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6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
My ignore list is getting a workout today. Anyone who can understand why a player would do this can’t be taken seriously for me. And please note that it is far, far more than just “sad Bills fans” who feel this way. Check the overall reaction from nearly everyone on social media and regular media. Using that as a cop out is hilarious.
If you can't separate yes Gronk was frustrated for how he was being covered and that is understandable from but he shouldn't have done that please stop reading and go to bed. Virtually everyone I have read has stated as much that it was a blatant cheap shot because the dude lost his cool. Guess what it happens all the time in sports across the board. Doesn't make it anymore right but Gronk is on a long list of idiots who did something stupid and now will face what should be massive repercussions that could cost his team home field in the playoffs.
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1 hour ago, Gugny said:
Hyperbole much?
It was a dirty hit. Very dirty. But no one came close to dying and he shouldn't be brought up on criminal charges. This wasn't a curling match, for Christ's sake.
Agreed it was an emotional dirty play and he even admitted as much when interviewed. He should be suspended for games if not the remainder of the season until playoffs.
But this crap that it was "criminal" and "assault" is just insane. Really stupid emotional plays that are dangerous and dirty happen in sports. In response so do massive suspensions. At the same point you cannot start to regulate things with the law with athletes who are at their max emotionally.
The bigger outrage should be if the NFL only suspends him a game or none at all. Examples need to be set especially with head hits. If Gronk is out the remainder of the season or at least misses the Pittsburgh game and NE loses that is a massive blow to the Pats to have to go on the road for the AFC title game.
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I love TBD far better then BBMB. I do agree the sudden death was unexpected but the quality of threads here for the most part is far improved and a lot of sillyness is non existent here.
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1 hour ago, Steptide said:
It worked 14 years ago! In all seriousness, these highlights never get old
There is a difference between pressure and blitzing. When Brady has failed it has been against 4/5 man fronts with exotic schemes that force him to take an extra second to look at the field while the pressure beats his line up front.
Otherwise against the blitz he has something like 70 TDs and zero INTs. So yea blitzing is bad.
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I wouldn't say their defense is stellar YET. They have some really good pieces on the front 7 but the secondary needs work and we won't really no where that D stands until their offense stops playing at a D3 level.