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7 minutes ago, White Linen said:
I agree with this fully. Bradford has definitely looked like a viable starting QB in the NFL - but he just can't stay healthy.
If/when we draft a QB, we may need a bridge QB and he's they type I'd certainly consider.
My biggest issue with a bridge QB is lets just say Bradford or a QB like that comes in and gets the team to 9-7 even 10-6 and they make the playoffs. It's hard to then take that guy out and plug in the rookie who then is expected to have no flaws. My best case scenario would be the Bills break the drought and draft a guy like Darnold so the pressure is off in terms of playoffs and even if he has a growing year where maybe we fall back to 6-10 the foundation is truly set. I just feels we have had a lot of bridge guys like Fitz, Taylor, Orton and been down that road I guess. Respectfully .02
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So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.
(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)
They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.
The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.
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1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:
Bills fans are the best and I sincerely hope that when a new stadium is built it is open air and the tailgating traditions continue.
I am pretty confident in the tailgating continuing (although it may be harder for people to go to private lots and jump through tables/fire), but I just can't see the team, city, and state investing in a new stadium without it being a retractable dome despite my wishes of staying outside especially after being at the game Sunday and seeing how amazing it was.
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13 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:
Bills don't have a great matchup vs Dolphins. Their DL can be dominant, the defense is pretty good top to bottom. Cutler ( if on) is a better QB than anything the Bills can trot out there. Points will be hard to come by for the Bills O; the defense is going to need to step it up tremendously. This has little to do with the Patriots game, mind you. The Dolphins allowed 20 points, and the Bills allowed 23. Pretty even considering that Gronkowski played and the Bills offense had one good drive in the game.
There D line has 23 sacks on the year and has failed to generate a lot of pressure routinely. Second they have allowed more points then Buffalo. The belief that Miami's D and the line especially is some juggernaut is flat wrong and stems from the fact they have names in Suh and Wake not production.
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After last nights upset of the Patriots the media is now singing the praises of Miami and Bills fans are scared much more of games I think many saw or said would be easier against MIA. While Miami got a nice win against the Patriots last night I think people need to pump the breaks a bit. I am by no means saying Miami is a weak foe either, Gase has this team playing hard regardless of record and no team is a pushover for the Bills. Other then the Raiders games all of our wins have been close and even if the Bills sweep the Phins I would expect similar.
That said here are a few reasons I think we need to slow down the "Miami is going to roll Buffalo train":
Patriots suck playing in Miami:
Four of the last five games played in Miami the Dolphins have beat New England with two of those games being by 10 points or more. Since Brady took over for the Patriots Miami they actually are 8-9 in Miami one of the few teams that have beat the Patriots more often then not. Perhaps Tom has a beach house he gets smashed at before the game, the humidity really is a factor, or some other weird JuJu but the Dolphins have managed to be a decent thorn for the Patriots at home. If the Dolphins beat anyone not named the Patriots this would be a regular game, but the primetime slot mixed with the fact the Patriots name has an aura and the hype gets pumped.
Buffalo actually has a better point differential, have scored more points than Miami, and actually allowed less points on D:
These two teams are frankly far similar then what a lot of people will say, but the Bills actually have a much better PD despite being torched by the Chargers and Saints. Up until the last two weeks the Dolphins had allowed 28 pts or more for 6 straight weeks. Their defense has allowed 28 more points then the Bills defense. By comparison even the Bills with the nightmare 3 game stretch have fared better on defense. The Bills offense somehow someway has actually outscored Miami 240-236. Obviously not sexy stats by any stretch on offense, but the Dolphins while they have better QB play are not some crazy dynamo either on offense. The Dolphins offense has been playing since Cutler returned to the lineup which cannot be discounted, but this is also the same QB who weeks 1-4 scored a whopping 41 points on offense so take that all as you can.
Dolphins Defense Not As Potent As It Seems:
Miami is kind of similar to the Bills on defense with a bend type break mantra. They like the Bills are decent on 3rd down defense, Passing D is upper half of the league, and run defense a little bit better then Buffalo in the middle of the pack. But while their defensive line gets a lot of hype they have a whopping 2 more sacks then the Bills with 23 overall. The point of attack/who wins the line will dictate the game Sunday, but Buffalo may have an advantage especially play at home against Miami. Also while Turnovers are far from predictable Miami ranks in the bottom 3rd of the league overall while the Bills have been pretty good at getting turnovers especially at opportune times.
Miami has not had a bye this season:
Because of the hurricane that delayed the Dolphins first game until later on in the season Miami has been playing now for 13 straight weeks. Also playing on Monday night they have one less day to rest their guys. While this may not seem like a major factor the war of attrition is undefeated in having an effect on a team. It will be a high of 34 Sunday with snow and wind for the game. I would not be surprised of the Dolphins get a little gassed as the game progresses given the shortened rest and overall fatigue on their bodies.
Overall this game I will expect to be very close in the end with Buffalo coming out. When we go down to Miami I would flip the script because the teams are both very similar in a lot of styles. For Buffalo to win though they will need a game that mimics what they did against Denver offensively and defense to get enough 3 and outs to be rested. The biggest threat to the Bills losing Sunday is Cutler getting hot and throwing all over. The only reason I am not more fearful of that is the Bills secondary is now healthy and has been the strength of the D all season allowing the least amount of TD's thrown on all year. It shall be a fun affair go bills!
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6 hours ago, Steptide said:
I dunno, for me I just think of it this way, you had a sexual revolution in the 60s and 70s, then released porn movies into theaters in the 80s, and now everything in media and on TV is overly sexualized. Meanwhile theirs probably 40 different websites you can stream free porn on, but the public is shocked and outraged when a sexual allegation happens. Again, Im not justifying it, but what does the public expect. It is a result of culture that we've created. On top of that, our president owns or owned the miss America pageant and is married to a very attractive woman who's posed nude for magazines.
Well stated and obviously your not justifying the actions either which are horrendous, but American's like to pretend our cultural is clean and cut yet you have half naked girls flaunting guys for beer on commercials. It's kind of an insane standard of what we accept yet proceed to condone.
So one of the interesting things most American's don't know is how this type of stuff overseas in Europe is a non issue because it is borderline just accepted that women are cat called and harassed. My wife studied in Spain for 5 months and they said on the trip to be incredibly careful because if you go home with a guy and but don't want sex and he proceeds to force himself on you the laws protect the men and there is nothing that can be done. So with the lack of enforcement on something like rape cat calling and harassment etc.. are quite common there and most other European countires. I think currently the can of worms has been opened where this behavior is being treated more seriously so the initial spill of awful people is hitting and it will subside in a bit.
That said I do not doubt some are using this as an opportunity to gold dig which is problematic to true victims when those cases are proven to be lies which some will then use to discredit real allegations..
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Nothing. He was open to sign with anyone last off season and came back here for less money. Contemplate that
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I hate doing it but I have them at 1-2 and losing a win and your in game against MIA week 17. Defensively the Bills are close to MIA with both teams having strong 3rd down D's and good secondaries. The difference is MIA is far better against the run. In BUF with the elements I think the Bills pull out the W, but down there MIA will have the advantage and Gase has this team still playing despite bleaker playoff odds.
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DRAFT by a mile.
If you hit on a QB drafted you get a nice period where they are paid far below market value which you can use to build quickly a strong roster. Second a young QB is far more moldable then a guy who has seasoning already.
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2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
You think they liked losing the $$$$ with a 1/3rd stadium?
Newsflash this is a Business
The stadium had 60k there, I would know I was there and they probably only had a 4-5k in tickets not sold total. Second the NFL gets and makes its money from the TV deals and sponsors now not ticket sales.
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Obviously the Bills have done a spectacular job at creating their own barriers so they have missed the playoffs for 17 straight years pushing 18 now. That said I wanted to lay out some factors that are not the Bills fault that have helped to impede the Bills making the playoffs during this time:
NFL's shift to making the league a QB driven league to a potentially unhealthy point:One of my majors gripes as a football fan in general is how the game has drastically changed where QB's are the focus to a point the team doesn't matter. The rule changes in 03, 04, 07, & 10 gave QB's a significant advantage that still hasn't been accounted for. Back before the rule changes it was possible to have a team was a decent defense and running game make the playoffs and win a round even if the QB was dog crap. QB play still determined the outcome for Super Bowls and you generally need a top QB to win a SB unless your defense is DEN or SEA like, but the league use to emphasize the rest of the team far more. These days if you hit a QB a split second late high its a penalty, low its a penalty, intentional grounding is almost never called anymore, and WRs are protected by the rules more making it easier for QBs to either get them the ball or draw a penalty. You could draw back some of these rules a bit where player safety is still prioritized first but the defense has a better shot. Additionally if QB's are getting the ball out faster even just to throw it away start enforcing intentional grounding more. It's kind of insane the current rules that if you throw the ball remotely near a player when chased it isn't even questioned as illegal.
New England Patriots:
Fair or not the Bills have been stuck with the best dynasty run potentially ever. Swing a game or two here in just a few seasons and the Bills probably sneak in at 9-7 or 10-6. The record vs NE is incredible and its gotten to the point of almost always being a guaranteed loss. If your routinely starting the season 0-2 that is a hard place to come from.
Number of NFL Teams:
When the NFL expanded the playoffs to add the 6th WC spot they did so because the percentage of teams that make the playoffs was in the low 30% range. When they added the 6th spot they did so because it made it where around 44% of the league made the playoffs increasing competition and giving everyone a better chance. Since the 90s expansion though that number has reverted back down to 37.5%. Had another spot been open the odds favor that one of the seasons the Bills were 9-7 or potentially couldve gone 9-7 they sneak in. Not the best situation for BUF to make the playoffs but it would've killed the drought. Additionally with more NFL teams there is less high end talent and good QB's available for teams to have making it even more difficult to find and field a strong roster.
NFL Rules:
During the drought the Bills have caught the poor side of some officiating that has blown back in our face. None looms larger then the home opener loss to the Jaguars in 04 where we knocked the Jags TE out of bounds and were penalized at the time because we impeded his ability to catch the ball. TD Jags and loss BUF. What sucks is that rule no longer exists and had the Bills won they would've made the playoffs. Continuing the them of QB's and the Patriots, the Bills got the brunt of the rule changes that enhanced QB play with Brady. The best way to beat him is to hit him a lot and jam his WR's. Well guess what the NFL alters that and makes both far harder.
Bad luck despite 5-1 or 5-2 starts:
Statistically if you start 5-1 or 5-2 you have about a 73% chance of making the playoffs. If your 5-1 you don't even need to be above .500 just go 5-5 and your most likely making it. The Bills 3 separate times have defied odds drastically in their favor to a maddening level. In the end this does fall back on them, but fans have gotten to the point we are more terrified at 5-1 or 5-2 then excited. That's insane haha
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3 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:
I agree with all of this the post was spot on. The only thing I would add about Ralph was that while I appreciated him doing a lot to keep the Bills in Buffalo, the Bills in Toronto series was the final straw of his ownership. I have never been more infuriated than having to watch those terrible games so Ralph and Ted Rogers could make some $ in Toronto. It was a really big insult to Bills fans. Perhaps it wasn't Ralph's fault as he was getting doddery and eccentric (The "Wilson said" speech for ex) at that point. Maybe Ralph was advised to do it by underlings. Who knows. I would add that the SB losses crushed Ralph (as it did all of us fans) and he was never the same man after. Always felt bad that Ralph never won a SB to go along with the AFL championship, he deserved it.
I understand fan unrest on this, but I would ask fans to really step back big picture wise. The NFL at that point was exploding money wise and if Ralph had died any point pre-2010 this team moved straight up. I think perhaps the team was too heavy handed with the Toronto thing especially moving regular season games there, but I also think Ralph was doing what he had to do so had he passed away the Bills looked stronger as a regional team $ wise and perhaps because of the Toronto affiliation the team could stay in Buffalo. Had the Bills been in the playoffs I don't think the blowback would've been as fierce, but adding Toronto into an already bleak situation did not help. Like I said I never liked the Toronto games and felt they should've just done 1 pre season game a year there instead, but I think if fans heard in owners meetings the back channel discussions on how the Bills were viewed and their viability in Buffalo during the 2000s we would at least be slightly more understanding. Respectfully my .02
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Polians firing was bad but in context both men at the time were highly competitive and neither were the type to let their ego lose to another (both said as much and in retrospect wish they handled it differently). At the same point John Butler was responsible for the drafting of a pretty solid defense that deserved a better offense.
To me Ralph certainly holds a decent amount of responsibility for the drought but to his credit he also owned up to the fact he made mistakes and apologized. I remember I believe it was 2005 he straight up held himself accountable for the team being a disaster. Not saying it helps but I think he at least had a pulse of the fans that I don't believe Terry and Kim have at least yet.
To me Ralph's greatest detriment to the Bills was the time from 1999-2007. The NFL was changing very very quickly in terms of paying players, big contracts, TV deals, and how the league was going to be marketed. He 100% understood the business side and owners even credited him for seeing the Owners screwed themselves on the one CBA mid 2000s. BUT he was awful at seeing how player wise things were changing and the amount of money that was being asked. The list of players from basically 2000-2007 that walked out who we drafted and failed to even resign solely for money reasons really sucks. If Pegula was owner with Jason Peters he would still be our starting LT. Nate Clements and McKelvin were basically drafted because Ralph failed to pay up for Antoine Winfield who ended up being better then both and worth the money. There is a laundry list of examples like that. He did the right thing to try and have a czar like Donahoe, but after that refused to let others have a say until Buddy Nix. But after Donahoe he was very cheap with coaches and settled with a lot of retreads. The Marv Levy period may have been the worst drafting in the last 30 years also.
Overall he got in the way far too much from 1999-2007. After that he started trying to pay for players, the summer of 08 I think they spent like 90 million on the offensive line for Derrick Dockery & I forgot the other guy but the team wasn't getting the impact guys needed and by that point Buffalo had a poor reputation league wide by players. Mix in the fact he was very controlling GM wise and it was just a mess. After 2008 though he started backing off as his health started going down so I can't really blame the guy much because it was more Brandon.
So I would say the first half of the drought is on Ralph, after that between health, Brandon, and the bigger issue of the teams long term future I don't blame him because he was not nearly as involved and had switched how things were being done anyway.
Overall as the owner of the Bills the end was disappointing and maybe lost a little luster for him team mgmt wise, but overall for the league he was truly one of the founders and locally always had the best interests in keeping the team viable/in Buffalo.
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17 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:
The Bills no longer have the fear advantage. It was much easier to sell tickets to meaningless games in December when people had the specter of losing their team hanging over their heads.
Reality sets in a bit more when the romantic ideal of supporting your team to show them how much you care is gone. All of us still care, we wouldnt be on a message board otherwise. The tickets may only cost six dollars a piece, but add parking a few beers and some food to the equation and you still end up with a close to $75 dollar outing. May not be a lot to some of you, but when it's around Christmas and you have other things to spend your money on watching a 6-6 team with the slim hopes of being in the playoffs play a 3-9 team in the snow doesnt sound that appealing.
The league tried to do the Bills a favor by making the Patriots games later in the season but it still didnt shake out.
This a 100%. Sal C from WGR550 says people are now more inclined to go because the team is safe but I whole heartily disagree for the reason you mentioned. Once again its another December where you need to figure out the formula to fly to the Bermuda Triangle in order for the Bills to make it in. People are not fooled anymore and the incentive to go because they may leave is non existent so yea Ill stay home and watch.
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38 minutes ago, Peter said:
I just checked Stub Hub out of curiosity. Not a pretty picture if you are looking to sell tickets.
I wonder how this year is going to effect season tickets sales for this coming year. Season ticket sales already were down coming into this season.
People are voting loud and clear with their wallets regarding what they think of the moves the Bills have made in 2017 and what they think of the "process."
This is pretty depressing.
So I gave up my seasons and my wife and I instead did the 3 games (Saints, Raiders, & Colts). I wouldn't have done the Colts but she loves Luck and we got them when it was expected he was playing.
Now we are going to go and have fun, but it was a bummer to see the price drop so much when we paid $140 for row 8 sec 141.
I gave up our seasons because of the time commitment mostly. I will say though that for me to get seasons again it will be a prove it situation. I will still go to games 3-4 plus 1 out of town if possible (I am planning on going to MIN to see them next year), watch on TV, and support them hard. BUT the seasons thing is a commitment and with how the games become so cheap in the bad seasons which we have had many of, its easier to just wait for the price to drop then renew. Coming from Rochester only makes it harder also.
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56 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:
My son and I want to see vegas play, otherwise yeah.
My wife wants to go. She loves Kenny's tailgate and goes for the event, not the game.
My wife is a diehard Bills fan like me but her favorite QB is Luck. SOOO of course bought tickets row 8 141 sec for $150 back in summer which are now wayyy cheaper and Luckless haha
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42 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
Honestly I can't pin it down to a specific game!
Would have been in the 1980s during the Joe Ferguson era, almost for sure.I do have a lasting memory in my head, though, of going through the "tunnel" out to the seats and the full size of the stadium emerging before me for the first time. My immediate reaction was "It's much smaller than it looks on TV" and I remember thinking things like an extra point or short field goals were a total joke for a professional, as an extra point (back then) was so freaking close; how could you miss?
Another memory I have from long ago is being down in the front row and noticing the massive crown in the field. The field in that stadium is (or at least was) much, much higher in the middle than out toward the sidelines, for water drainage. When you are down there the curve of the field is very noticeable. That is totally lost on TV.
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1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said:
Detroit Lions and Buffalo Bills -Last game at War Memorial 17-17 tie
It's fitting the last game there would be a tie between these two teams
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4 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
1983 Monday Night Football against the Jets. Broke the record for most arrests and ejections in Rich Stadium history.
My Dad was supposed to babysit me that night (it was shortly before my 5th birthday) while my Mom was at work. He got a call around dinnertime from my uncle saying he had two extra tickets. He knew my Mom would be furious that he took a 4 year old to a 9:00pm game, but he couldn't pass it up. Left a note on the kitchen table and off we went. I remember walking through the tunnel and seeing the bright green turf for the first time and it was almost sparkling from the lights. Stadium was absolutely packed and very rowdy. The Bills got destroyed from the start, but I fell in love with Bills football that day because of the experience.
My uncle's friend was smashed before we entered the stadium. Sometime during the first half he left to use the bathroom and never came back. After the game we wandered around the stadium looking for him and we finally found him asleep on a toilet...lol.
Oh yeah, Mom was pissed when we got home!!!!
Haha this story is awesome and the ending is a 100% predictable. Only difference is if it was me with my kid my wife would've been pissed she didn't get to go which is a plus I think.
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My first game was like a Bills Pats game early mid 90s when Kelly, Thomas, Reed, & Smith were still on the roster. I think he took me so I at least attended the good days and my only real memory is being in the 300s opponent sideline in like early Nov.
BUT my first true memory would be the Bills Bears in 2000 I was 11 we sat 300s. Flutie started the game, for some reason in the 3rd quarter Johnson was put in though. He proceeded to get injured which the crowd cheer as he went off and Flutie back on (Not our finest day Bills fans). Any way Bills were up only by a few and then we got a defensive TD to ice the game. It was really fun and I still have the gloves my dad got me from a vendor on Abbott.
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10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Fred Jackson was a decent back. Over 1000 yards once in his career, never a 20 carry a game guy. A folk hero, great team mate. But he didn't waste his career here.
Spiller did go to another team and another system (4 of them). His career wasn't wasted in Buffalo--it's where he had his only brief success.
Wood? A better QB would make him a better....Center?
Your missing my point it is potential talent not actual execution. Spiller in an offense that highlighted his skills to run and catch getting the appropriate amount of carries could've been special. For center's you get linked with how good your QB is or isn't. Kent Hull would not have gotten the same adoration if he had Jeff George as his QB.
I know fans don't like to hear it but circumstance, coach, and team matter a lot on how players are defined. As I said it was overall potential not what their career translated into also, I viewed it as What If when looking at their skill and position.
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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Better than who?
Well Darnold, Rosen, & at least Jackson all have been graded higher then Mahomes/Trubisky/Waston entering the draft not accounting Watsons amazing stretch for the sake of keeping just focused on leaving college for the draft. I have zero clue if any of them or someone like Allen or Mayfield will be better then the 2016 QB's, Goff, or Wentz, but those analyzing this draft/NFL personnel love the potential and traits shown thus far from this class compared to the previous 2 years.
That said I still think the Browns kinda blew it not taking a guy in either of the previous 2 years.
3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:Depressing that we have actually had more head coaches during our drought than the Browns have...
i know ive said this numerous times before, but IMO bad teams stay bad by constantly firain't coaches and GMs.
That is why I think it's crucial that we stick with a coach and GM and see what happens when we let them build something and not abort the plan 2-3 years in...
This is the sole reason I would've kept Rex Ryan for one more season especially if you were bringing back Tyrod. If you were going to do that again then give Rex one more year with his guys and draft picks to try and make it work. If it would've failed then scorch the earth on everything to start fresh. And for the record I was not and am not a Ryan fan in the least, but you gotta let a coach have enough time to make his mark. 3 years at least gives him 2 years of his draft and players and time to get his system in for better or worse.
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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:
Yes, he could have. But I get the feeling that despite the w/l record, they're on the right path. And they get pick of the litter this year...with objectively better QB options.
Completely agree. Just saying had he picked Wentz and even if the team went say 2-14 last year and 4-12 or 5-11 this year he would've got a longer leash just because it feels like progress is being made. That unfortunately is what I think sunk him especially with the team really on the verge of 0-16.
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1 hour ago, joesixpack said:
26CopyPaste posted a twitter link that shows just how effective the guy had been despite the w/l record.
BUT in the end W/L are what matters. They could've taken a QB in the past 2 seasons AND still had the majority of those picks. I don't disagree he probably got canned too early and should've been allowed his choice, but he also missed by not taking a QB when they reallyy really needed one and didn't pull the trigger.
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