Matt_In_NH
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I think Jones and Lawson will be back. Jones may not get what he wants but maybe will get a 2 year deal, I can see another 1 year deal for Lawson.
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8 hours ago, SCBills said:
Seems like a good culture fit, no?
Is he bad for cultuer if Jeff Duncan is in fact a hoe?
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40 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Miller has agreed to. cut his base pay this year from $17.5 million to $8.855 million, according to Field Yates of ESPN. That will save the Bills $8.645 million.
At first glance, it appears that Miller took a pay cut to help the team out. Miller didn’t have to do anything: Before this renegotiation, his contract guaranteed him $10.71 million for 2024, and he could have told the Bills he’s holding them to the contract that both sides agreed to, and he’s not budging. Instead, Miller took significantly less.
The deal does have upside for Miller in incentives that could push his pay all the way up to $20 million for 2024. We don’t know what those incentives are yet, but a player like Miller — who’s 35 years old and has seen his production decline significantly — typically wouldn’t be expected to hit a lot of incentives at this point in his career.
This has some information but not everything. Guess it doesn't really matter.
Anyway, his base is cut from $17.5 million to $8.855 which saves 8.645 on the cap...that is not guarantees that is cap. His guarantee for 2024 was 10.71M. What is it now? Also, some of that
Here is another nugget online ". They moved more cap into the future by converting some of that compensation into a bonus and prorating it, but the details of that remain unclear." So some of the cap decrease is not just a paycut, I contend the paycut is not that signficant, they are giving him the opportunity to make it all up and then some, so it was a trade off of guarantees for a high ceiling for Von. The restructure saved a lot of cap, did not reduce his guarantees a "TON". They accomplished this by some traditional restructure....converting salary to bonus and prorating it and some by a change in the guarantees for 24 with the NLTBE incentives. Over the cap mentions the details are not out "Miller accepted a pay cut in 2024 reducing his salary from $17.5 million to $8.885 million per ESPN's Field Yates. We have updated his contract figures for 2024 based on a handful of reports about the pay reduction and will update further when we receive more information on the contract." Anyway, the cap reduction is what people care about but tit is not being as widely reported that they did bonus proration which is not great for his situation.
According to multiple reports, the Bills and linebacker Von Miller agreed to terms on a contract restructure. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that Miller's 2024 base salary of $17.145 million was lowered to $8.5 million. Additionally, there are "reachable incentives" that can get him back to earning $17.145 million and additional, higher incentives to bring him nearly $20 million.
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Just now, nedboy7 said:
8.65 Mil this year. And 5sih following year I believe.
That is cap savings not guarantees. Big difference.
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29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
he gave up a TON of guaranteed moneyDo you know the specifics or where I can see that? How much is a ton? I am interested in the before and after.
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7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Lot of hate on here for a guy who actually did the team a huge favor. This is a huge gift to the Bills. He did not have to do this in anyway.
What are the details of what he did? I read he gave up 2M in guarantees but can earn that back and then some based on incentives? So he gave the bills some downside protection but he got some upside.
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Does anyone know if their are implications since he is injured? During training camp I often hear about how you cannot waive an injured player. Is that different in the offseason? I have to assume he is not yet cleared.
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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:
Well, yea, but I was replying to someone saying to restructure (or convert his salary to bonus) and not renegotiate (ie reduce his salary)
even if von doesn’t return to form yesterdays deal is fine
all incentives are either likely or unlikely to be earned for accounting purposes37 minutes ago, babulator said:I'm no cap wizard and I've seen it covered different ways, but this sounds good.
Let's withhold judgement until after FA.
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For tomorrow can we cover "our" vs "are"?
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17 minutes ago, davefan66 said:
Yup. Injuries happen.As a Bils fan, and fan of Tre, I can feel however I’d like. Pretty sure plenty of others feel the same.
As a True Bills fan, my feelings are better than yours
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1 hour ago, Spiderweb said:
A wasted year on Allen's career seems likely...
Over Morse, Poyer and White? White has not been available for years, Poyer was showing his age. Morse is a hit but something that can be absorbed. I totally disagree, this is retooling and will not impact overall results expectation very much.
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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I love how people think the things they don't understand aren't real. Especially when some guy who used to do the job tells you. (Cap management skills might be a reason why.)
Or people don't know how to correctly interpret what they guy who used to do the job tell you.
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Seems like he will get paid handsomly..........somewhere else
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Feels like a bust so far but at the same time I would like to see him play more. He just seems like "not a scheme fit" and maybe should be traded.
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3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:
Ah...hearkens back to many a game of street football from my yute.
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Your idea is asinine and illegal, unless you're really Bill Belichick. Then it's sheer genius.Or you can do it, you know the stand sideways approach and kind of toss it to 17 when he says "hike". I think we can sign you for less than 500k
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Douglass and Benford are your starters.....they need depth, think rookie, other lower priced vets
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1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:
Yes and no. I’m definitely someone who feels you can manipulate the cap for as long as a team wants. Does a team eventually have to pay for it of course, but teams can always do things if there is a player they want to sign or keep players they want to keep. Every move the Bills made yesterday can be justified outside of cap savings. If they wanted to keep all of those guys they could have, but having some time to digest what happened those were all smart business and football decisions
The way I think about this is any big contracts you hand out affect your potential to hand out other large contracts, the cap is soft an manipulatable but the optimal way to approach it is with judicious decision making. For instance did the Bills need to resign Poyer last year at 7M or whatever he got and 2M of dead cap this year? They are ripping the band aid off now, I contend that could have been done last year. Y
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11 minutes ago, davefan66 said:
Yup. Injuries.Doesn’t mean a true Bills can can’t be unhappy he won’t be with the team.
Understanding it is for the better and being sad are not mutually exclusive true Bills fan.
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Yesterday brought some clarity to this thread. The cap is not fake but it soft and can be manipulated to a point. But it is real not fake. As polian says. The cap does not forget and does not forgive.
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12 hours ago, Realist said:
Aging, concussion history, 8 million cap hit...not sure why so many are surprised at this one.
So they should waive Taron Johnson too right? The concussion thing is so overblown with Morse.
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Harty and hardy the same day. This will never be duplicated.
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I thought you ca t waive an injured guy? Are there no implications from the Achilles?
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2 hours ago, davefan66 said:
Was back last season. Unfortunately got injured again.Tre is a baller and great dude.
Three games. We all know about the injuries.
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It does not compare. HOFers vs good players. That was the end period. This is a new beginning. The team is still ascending and. Needs a eeset
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Rasul Douglas contract restructure... saves $2.5 mill
in The Stadium Wall
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So no extension for Douglass, do you guys think that is what the Bill wanted, what Douglass wanted? I assume they tried an extension but could not agree on numbers so they reduced his cap by adding void years. I was hoping for an extension guess.
Also, can someone explain his void money, same thing existed with Leanard Floyd. SPotrac has restructure bonus as 0.812.5M for the next three years but a cap hit of all of that, 2.4375M next year. I think if he is not signed longer term, they take the entire void hit next year? I don't understand why they show additional void money in 26 and 27. I am nearly positive it is not all additive. Is that to average down the salary to bonus conversion or something?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/rasul-douglas-21841/