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24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
A tiny fraction of the "whole fandom kingdom of Bills fans" will ever set foot in their stadium in any given year.
Polling them "all" isn't meaningful. Maybe if you limit it to season ticket holders, you might be able to cobble together some sort of argument that makes sense.
even the Bills data polling season ticket holders only, still showed a majority want a dome.
of course season ticket holders have more who want open air then general fans but still even with just season ticket holders the majority want dome.
1 hour ago, prissythecat said:A team now competing for a top draft pick in freezing weather on the day before Christmas? Not exactly a good example
pick any bad weather game and attendance is lower. Even when travel is ok. This should not be the case because i keep getting told fans love the weather games. They should sellout and tix prices should soar then.
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Quotelook at this crowd. I thought you said all fans love outdoor weather games. Where are they? This should be full with standing room only wth 🤷♂️😆😆 this is just 6 minutes before kick off.🤷♂️ i told you it would be like this. And you can't use the holiday excuse. Lions sellout Ford Field(and bigger Silverdome previously) on Thanksgiving every year even when team is bad. You know why? Because they play in a "DOME" lol
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18 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
Because there are no facts. I've had the same seats for over 20 years with all the same people around me. Most of them older fans because we have the best section in the stadium. Section 134. I sit 4 rows behind Jim Kelly, who has 8 seats. Not one single person in that area wants a dome. It's just not Buffalo. Sorry dude. Go route for someone else. You must be a newbie bandwagon Bills fan. You have no clue what Buffalo football is all about.
oh and fyi...lol...you yourself said any poll under 5 k or so is invalid. So that micro-poll of 15 or 20 or 30 fans sitting in a cold weather game with you is not a valid polling sample. It's called anecdotal evidence and anecdotal evidence is the most wildly inaccurate polling info in the world. People who think alike tend to hang out with people who think like them. That's why anecdotal evidence is usually wrong and wrong by a wide margin.
fact is all polls show majority of fans want a dome.
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On 12/23/2022 at 5:47 PM, Bubba Gump said:
Then you would know the majority of Bills fans don't want a dome. You're clueless bro. Again, go route for Indy. Clown
every poll shows majority of Bills fans want a dome.
I am not making this up it is all documented. Kudos to you you go to games with a group who love outdoor bad weather games. There are many of those i don't deny, and most of the fans who go to bad weather games are bad weather fans. That's why they go lol 🤷♂️
But 68k of game day fans are not the whole fandom kingdom of Bills fans, and of that Bills fandom kingdom, the "MAJORITY" want a dome. ALL polls prove this.
You continue to deny the facts. Look at all the polls. All show a majority want a dome in bad weather.
i personally love bad weather games for the fun of it. I have gone to many many both Pro, College, and High School games. Go all the time. What i hate is it hurts the Bills chances of winning as they can't run and are a passing team. But it's not about me or my opinion. I am just stating facts. I just want what's best for Bills chances to win.
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1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said:
Because there are no facts. I've had the same seats for over 20 years with all the same people around me. Most of them older fans because we have the best section in the stadium. Section 134. I sit 4 rows behind Jim Kelly, who has 8 seats. Not one single person in that area wants a dome. It's just not Buffalo. Sorry dude. Go route for someone else. You must be a newbie bandwagon Bills fan. You have no clue what Buffalo football is all about.
the majority want a dome. Facts.
I know all about Buffalo football I have been to many many games both home and away since the 70's.
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2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
Bad comparison, I've had Bills season tickets for years. Every shifty weather game the past few years have been sold out. If your team sucks, you're not gonna sell out. The Bills are good so no one cares about a little wind and snow.
you made the wrong deduction that fans like cold weather games. You are wrong.
all fans including Bills fans polls show majority want a dome. They also vote with their attendance and money and don't sell out bad weather games and/or have many more no shows than normal.
I can't help that you refuse to accept the facts.
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2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
Go enjoy your dome teams. There are more open air stadiums in the Eastern half of the U.S. No one complained back in the 60's and 70's. I'm a diehard domophobe. As are most of the cold weather fans. You think GB fans want a dome? Or Chicago fans? Highly doubtful.
I think the next person that starts another f'n dome thread should be banned for life. As you said, it's a dead issue!!! Over and done with.
No lol, you are wrong again. Most of the cold weather fans favor a dome. All polls show it. 🤷♂️
That's why cold weather games avg less attendance.
Look at Soldier Field tomorrow and you will see.
If they all loved it, they would be clamoring for tickets and they would not be selling for $4 and $14 right now.
and you are wrong about Bears fans too. Recent Polls show 70%+ want the dome in Arlington heights built.
and before that a majority always wanted a dome.
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17 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
Can you name those 55k people since you seem so sure of yourself? And I never said anything bad about the Metrodome. I have no clue where you're getting your info.
yes i can name all 55k and you said domes atmosphere sucks.
so i gave examples of Domes having great atmosphere. Even Hoosier Dome for Indy was awesome been there many times.
SuperDome also is crazy loud, as is Atlanta when they are winning, and the TransWorld in St Louis was also great home field when they were crazy good in Warner years.
I have also "even" been to smaller domes for football like UNI in Cedar Falls Iowa and the Fargodome in Fargo ND. "Even" those are loud and great homefield atmosphere. Much louder than outside.
and FYI when i said "even" Metrodome, that adverb was denoting an additional note you did not specifically ask for but fits the conversation and adds context.
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5 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
I've been to both. Don't assume you know me please. Det and Indy are horrible.
one game is not always indicative of the overall yearly atmosphere. Those places are awesome on the regular.
about 55k Bills fans will differ with you on Ford Field.
even Metrodome when Gophers played the Hawkeyes filled w Iowa fans was amazing.
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11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
If there's no funding for the stadium, there's no stadium and therefore no dome. Those polled understood this when asked.
that makes no sense.
If there's no funding for the stadium, there's no stadium and therefore no open air stadium. Those polled understood this when asked.
fixed it for you.
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21 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I’m saying if it was 5000 people polled idc
And the bills did poll 60000+ During their research and it was about 50-50… not 70-30
Bills poll was majority wanted dome. They worded it asshat political jargon and the results are goofy as a result but still majority still wanted dome.
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8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
How many people were polled? If it’s anything less than 100,000 it’s irrelevant
And I don’t think that’s the bills research
if you think 100k is the benchmark for accurate poll's then you don't know how polling works.
the +/- margin of error accuracy will change depending on the number of people polled but the general result is still accurate.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Not on this board
This board is absolutely Dome or bust 80%… And they are all adamant why we need it
yes i agree. They are the vocal minority. They have even thrown up polls on this and other boards and majority vote for dome.
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3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
There is nothing that shows the majority of fans want a dome
Including their polls
What is apparent is the pro dome stadium people are more vocal
this is what the study said. "Only 33% of Buffalo Bills fans are satisfied with the decision to not add a roof to the new stadium."
Survey Shows What Bills Fans Want for New Stadium in Buffalo (driveresearch.com)
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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:
There is nothing that shows the majority of fans want a dome
Including their polls
What is apparent is the pro dome stadium people are more vocal
no you have it completely opposite; it is the open-air minority that are most vocal.
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27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
By a 2 to 1 margin, residents of the 13 westernmost NY counties polled against the state's funding deal for the stadium at all...
what? that is a completely different issue. We are talking about a dome or no dome. Not the funding issue. Fact is majority of Bills fans want a dome.
All your post shows is they are against an open air stadium funded by state. Thanks for helping my argument. 😆
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16 hours ago, eball said:
Link?
Allen also told T Pegula to build a dome at a practice during bad weather in fieldhouse during week leading up to the bad weather game loss vs Pats last year.
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11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
I would bet that most humans support open air...
not in WNY they don't. All polls always show clear majority of Bills fans prefer a dome.
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7 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:
They're like sitting in a big warehouse watching football. Especially Indy and Detroit.
those two and Vikings are great atmosphere. You need to go to games there and you will find out.
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21 hours ago, Process said:
He's from California. He's full of crap lol.
He's been asked in the past if he would prefer a dome to which he replied "no comment."
he told T Pegula to build a dome.
This latest is psych opps for the opposing teams. LOL.....annnnnnd to appease the vocal minority of Bills fans who prefer no dome. 😎😆
Allen is smart.
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6 hours ago, MJS said:
He must have matured as a player and is more consistent now. It wasn't all bad here with him, but he just made bone-headed mistakes sometimes and had bad drops.
he juggled nearly every wide open catch he did make w Bills....obviously great hands in college turned mental issue in NFL.
Maybe because NFL ball is slightly bigger. Or no strips. IDK.....
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Sunday Ticket is for Sunday games. lol
but seriously how hard is it to give all the games. Dumb marketing IMO.
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13 hours ago, Limeaid said:
Stories about this:
- https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/12/13/bill-belichick-peyton-manning-peter-boulware-art-modell
- https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/13/peyton-manning-says-bill-belichick-once-put-peter-boulware-in-the-pro-bowl-to-spite-art-modell/
- https://russellstreetreport.com/2022/12/15/out-to-lunch/belichick-and-modell/ (IMO best one)
Does this surprise you?
This because Coach Hoodie (5-11) was fired by Modell before moving to Baltimore.
that's just dumb for Owner/GM to agree to a contract that gives a bonus for being picked for pro bowl roster.
It should only be if you are voted in as a starter.
Modell GM was dumb.
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3 hours ago, Chaos said:
Ok. That is one of the reasons the team took a step back. But 2021 was less successful than 2020. Simple indisputable fact. Not sure why this troubles people to accept.
because it is not true. In Reality Bills were not a better team than KC in 2020 but two times were the better team than KC in 2021.
But lost due to coaches epically shatting the bed in the easiest win scenario in playoff history. Only loss harder to attain was the Nashville MCM.
Josh Allen doesn’t like Domed stadium supports open air
in The Stadium Wall
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what? polling in a dome?
don't know what you mean by that.
Bills polled season ticket holders. Their quote was "Our fans did not have an overwhelming response to a domed stadium when we surveyed them in 2018 and 2021."
they were looking for a super majority to then give them pause and consider a dome. But i believe due to cost of both initial and the ongoing maintenance a dome was never on the table.
Bills cleverly did not say the poll showed a majority of the fans wanted a dome because owners wanted open air to save money and to protect the mystique of cold weather WNY fans which is a mirage as majority of even the season ticket holders and biggest fans want a dome.
If majority said they wanted open-air Bills would have blasted that in the headlines every time the subject came up since they wanted to protect the fake mystique and they wanted open-air stadium in the end anyway. The fact they did not and do not is very telling.