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10 minutes ago, Just Jack said:
Did you catch the "I Heart NJ" on the Times Square billboard for the Jets?
does it alternately flash green for Jets then blue for Giants.......just like Met Life week to week...lol
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6 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Pretty much standard anime intro music. It's not for everyone so I can respect where you are coming from.
ty.......i do like anime art very much. I have not heard a lot of its own type of music though.
i will keep an open mind and give it a listen as i hit on it. This could just be a song i don't like.
My music love has always been a work in progress. At one time i only liked rock and i hated all country music, Elvis, folk, bluegrass, electronica, hip hop, rap, etc etc,....now i love all of that except old old country but i appreciate old old country as it is the Genesis of the modern stuff that is pretty good.
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nice vid but that song or whatever it is, is sandpaper to my ear canal. lol
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On 5/4/2023 at 2:34 PM, NickelCity said:
Where are the best up to date renderings?
2 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:Which coincides to my favorite time to go. Absolutely love snow games
well....Bills have about one real home snow game every 30 years or so.
Colts was last. Jets and Browns games were moved.
sorry your experience is going to be few and far between. Good luck though.
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On 4/28/2023 at 1:39 PM, Dablitzkrieg said:
Na, that sucks. All nicknames do imo
i would not say all of them do, but some are terrible......
the big unit? wtf is that??
Groot on Bills? who the hell thought that up for a guy named Rousseau ??
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1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:
Only if they’re paying the majority of his contract
good point....... and i might add AZ can't pay his contract. New team assumes the contract as is.
Hopkins can restructure any time and lessen the cap hit. Or even restructure with Cards first to lessen it for team getting traded to. Which is i assume, is what you meant.
And Hopkins said he is open to a restructure, so his movement/trade is available. Interesting though also is speculation that Cards may just release him eventually.
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On 4/17/2023 at 11:12 PM, mrags said:
Ok. But everything you just stated also applies to the Bills and the new stadium AND, they are also charging PSLs. Again. You can’t say that all these companies are getting breaks and profiting but then not include the Bills. And you can add Sams Club and Costco all you want. That’s a membership fee. But if you really want to include them and their $50-100 membership fees to prove your point then I guess I’ll just concede and that you refuse to listen to any argument. So have a good day.
yeah i never said it did not apply to the Bills also...🙄
if it's ok for all of them, why is it not ok for sports teams to do it?
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On 4/13/2023 at 10:53 AM, Einstein said:
Source? Don't think that happened. You might be able to find money going towards improvements of roads, or tax credits - but I see no evidence of the government giving Walmart billions to build stores.
Again, source?
This is much much much much different than cash.
Getting a tax credit to reduce the tax burden on a businesses land to incentivize them to come or stay, is way different than handing them a check for nearly $1 billion dollars.
Walmart argues the amounts but not the receiving of the welfare.
Walmart benefits from billions in government subsidies- Study.url Wal-Mart's Expansion Aided By Many Taxpayer Subsidies - The New York Times.url
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On 4/11/2023 at 4:24 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Question. If fans had a choice would they have chosen a renovation and no PSL’s at $900 million or what we’re getting at $1.6 billion and PSL’s that could be more?
I should add that a renovation would mean playing games elsewhere for 2-3 years.
rebuilding would have ended up costing close to a new one and they would still have been left with an old crappy one. Not good money management.
moving Bills to another site(Syracuse?) for 3 years during a rare SB window with aQB in his prime would have been the most epic failure in NFL history killing home field advantage making all games like a road game.
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On 4/13/2023 at 10:09 AM, mrags said:
The easier response is this:
yes, but Target, Walmart, Bass Pro, Casinos, Home Depot, Lowe’s, McDonalds, etc, don’t charge you a fee just to walk into the door before you even buy anything.
Sams Club and Costco do.
If your above mentions are in tiff districts, then yes you pay every year in property tax lost that must be made up by raising yours.
If tax welfare is funded through bonds then again you keep paying locally.
If fed money is given you are paying via income tax.
virtually all those locations also charge local and state sales tax. Just 4 states have no sales tax.
You are splitting hairs.
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2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
As per the new stadium lease, I do believe the new owner would be able to move the team without penalty in the year 2055. If there is NFL football still going on by then I'll eat my hat
get some salt. Head injuries and CTE is prevalent in hockey, UFC, kick boxing, Boxing, Rugby, Soccer too, so that would need to go away along with NFL.
I don't see it happening. Too much money at stake. More likely advances in head protection increases and rules change to lessen head trauma.
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On 4/10/2023 at 7:15 PM, nucci said:
I live in Delaware. No sales tax here
it was a metaphor. And i was talking about tax on car sales off your comment about buying a car. Document car tax in Delaware. 1500 to over 2 k per car.
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7 hours ago, corta765 said:
I follow NFL Schedule Update on twitter who is pretty solid on leaks yearly.
Based on todays tweet expect the Bills to play in October and it is very possible it is against the Jags. Pats will be hosting in Europe week 9 or 10 and Chiefs week 10 or 11 vs the Bears.
not possible for Bills to play Jaguars. Jags play one home game in UK per year.
Bills game is a Bills home game moved to London. Bills game to be played in Hotspur stadium 2023.
Jags play in Wembly in 2023
BUFFALO, N.Y. — The Buffalo Bills will head across the pond for a game during the 2023 NFL regular season, the team announced Thursday morning.
The Bills will play at London's Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The opponent, as well as the date and time have not been determined yet.
This will be the team's second trip to London. They traveled there in 2015 to play the Jacksonville Jaguars.
"We are proud to be selected to participate in our league's international games in 2023 and continue to help grow our sport globally," Buffalo Bills EVP and Chief Operating Officer Ron Raccuia said in a statement posted to the Buffalo Bills website on Thursday.
"The NFL has done an incredible job with this initiative. We're excited for Bills Mafia to experience Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, one of the primary design inspirations for our new stadium scheduled to open in 2026."
The game in London will replace one of the nine designated home games next season.
The Tennessee Titans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, and New England Patriots are among the other teams selected to play internationally next season, according to the Bills. The team and NFL say the Titans will also have a "home game" in London but won't face the Bills. The Jaguars are set to play at Wembley Stadium in the UK.
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6 hours ago, Bangarang said:
I still have nightmares of watching EJ Manual piss down his leg in London against the Jags.
was that the game the Bills TE ran straight to the sideline stepped out of bounds and then turned and caught a catch a pass from EJ? For a loss.
or was that a Tyrod throw? I think it was EJ
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On 4/10/2023 at 2:34 PM, SUNY_amherst said:
i dont think they are getting $1billion from taxpayers anywhere in the US to build a Home Depot or Target
NFL stadium seems a little bigger in scale than a car dealership
in total Walmart collectively per company has received Billions to build all their many many locations.
same with Target, Home Depot, McDonalds, fill in the blank ___________________developers of strip malls etc etc...... they all get tax welfare. And they in total get much much more than the occasional sports arena being built as sports are getting less and less public input. Developers and private businesses getting corporate tax welfare are increasing as the states and localities fight to entice them.
Just mention a Tesla or Lowes warehouse or Bass Pro or Amazon HQ, or a Casino, to an area, and they will rain money down on them to get them.
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2 hours ago, John Gianelli said:
According to an online inflation calculator, $22,000,000 in 1972 is worth $158,336,842.11 today. So the cost increase alone for this stadium is only slightly less than what it cost to build the entire stadium in the first place, adjusted for inflation!
lol... it is startling until you realize:
yes stadium construction is much much different now with so much more sq feet, scoreboards, electronics, wi fi, better locker rooms, workout areas, restaurants, much more dynamic concessions, fan areas, kid areas, standing room platforms, overhangs, heated areas, domes, Mega amounts of suites, it goes on and on.
can't even compare the cost anymore. It is not an accurate comparison.
it is like comparing the old Hoosier Dome and Metro Dome to the new Domes that have over double the square footage.
2 hours ago, nucci said:true but I'm not writing a personal check for $2K to the dealership for the right to buy a car.
yes you are. it's called sales tax lol....lol
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2 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:
Home Depot & Target aren't getting $1 billion in taxpayer subsidies for a new building though
yes they are, in the form of tif districts and direct land donations and tax incentives, every time they move and build a new super center. Walmart too.
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On 4/9/2023 at 9:19 AM, Mr. WEO said:
You can mischaracterize PSLs any way you want, I guess. 1
Likewise, The G4 loan program is funded, per the CBA, as a maximum of 1.5% of annual league revenue, so it's not something that Pegs has "paid into for decades". It is, like player salaries, money that the owners never see in their coffers. And as such, Pegs personally is not on the hook for such a loan. He team can pay it back by not taking their cut of away game gate receipts.2
This isn't a matter of different opinions...
1. agreed. Many diff ways to look at it. It is like the circular argument.
2. every team loses the %cut of the visitor team money when they play on the road and then that gets funneled into the G4 program. So it is direct money of Pegs and every other owner they do not get. It is their money.
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8 hours ago, Utah John said:
I still can't believe the Pegulas get credit in this deal for the money collected from PSLs. That's money from the fans, from the public, not from their own pockets. And they even get to count the money that it costs to sell and administer the PSLs.
They ARE responsible for cost overruns, which could turn out to be a lot of money, so they're not getting off scott-free. I just think the PSLs should be regarded as another category of funding for the stadium, so we could see more clearly who's paying what.
A lot of what's being counted as money from the Pegulas is actually money paid by the fans, for PSLs. It's crazy.
as i pointed out the PSL's in this deal are fundamentally different than in any other.
Pegs contributes a set multi millions as i set forth per the deal. No stipulation PSL's intake affects his contribution. State wanted a guarantee and got it.
Pegs as owner of Bills is only one who can sell PSL's. Pegs as owner keeps 100% of the PSL money. If he can't sell any PSL's or only sells $50 million of PSL's he has no recourse. The deal is done.
If he sells $100 billion of PSL's he keeps all of it. State and County have no recourse to ask for more.
You can bet Pegs will try to keep the amount of PSL money taken in, a hot secret.
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18 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:
Read the above Einstein poster I couldn’t have said it better myself. It is 100 percent accurate. Some like myself questioning PSE Terry Pegula doesn’t mean someone is a fraud or isn’t a Buffalo Bills fan. For the Bills fans saying Terry Pegula is the Buffalo Bills savior. The Buffalo Bills fans and the State of New York saved the Buffalo Bills. Look at Terry Pegula as a middle man raking in all the profits and watching his franchise climbing in value. While putting the original franchise money up he got that back with this stadium deal and his franchise rising in value because it’s one of the 32 NFL franchises of the NFL.
Someone would have bought the Buffalo Bills and kept them here in Buffalo including Bon Jovi. With that much upfront public money Bon Jovi isn’t getting that in Toronto a free new stadium so the Buffalo Bills would have stayed in Buffalo regardless if Terry Pegula bid or not. I am a Buffalo Bills fan not a NFL greedy owners fan. Just like I am a Buffalo Sabres fan not a Jack Eichel fan. Owners, GM’s, coaches, players come and go it’s all the way it is. BSF has seen a lot as Buffalo sports fan for over five decades living in Buffalo. I am loyal to the Buffalo Bills laundry that is it if the Buffalo Bills can win a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo guaranteed next year if they moved Josh Allen goodbye Josh Allen. Don’t tell me that is awful the goal is to win a Super Bowl for Buffalo and I am not 25 years old anymore. I am 55 years old seen, heard and lived through all the Buffalo teams shoulda, woulda, coulda be quite and win a Super Bowl Championship for Buffalo Bills fans you bums in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo
value of Bills rising does Pegs no good. He does not borrow money off the value of the team for operating and he is never selling in his lifetime. After which time his kids likely take over or sell then.
It would be like you buying a house at age 21 with about 20% of cash you had on hand in bank liquid. Then living in it your whole life to 85. Does not matter one bit what the value of that house is at any time as you are never selling it.
You in fact would hope it does not rise in value too much as it makes your property taxes jump up if it does.
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19 hours ago, Einstein said:
We have already been over this, and NO, Pegula will not come close to 50% of the stadium costs.
He will be closer to 20%.
A massive portion of the $550M is coming from PSL’s (not Pegula’s money) and the G4 loan that is tied to the VISITORS cut of the ticket sales (again, not Pegula’s money).
So essentially, the taxpayers are paying for the taxpayer funded part. And the fans are paying for most of the Pegula portion.
From the Buffalo news article on it:
we have gone over this and we disagree on it.
I still believe PSL money is Pegs. He choose to do PSL's as part of the funding and opening up the G4 loan from NFL.
Pegs and Bills have pd into the NFL G4 loan fund for decades and will pay in in perpetuity by taking Bills cut of tickets when they are on road when Bills are visitor. so it is Pegs money getting spent.
So i give it to Pegs on the ledger front.
I know you and some others do not agree.
It is just my categorization of it. Partially due to the following also:
If Pegs or other owner wanted to move a team to newer richer city, they could dig in, refuse to offer PSL's, then not Q for the G4 loan, and insist on more public funding that would not come, to then grease the wheel for the team to escape to richer pastures.
This option was very plausible for Pegs in this market and he could have dug in and insisted Bills WNY market cannot support PSL's and most believe that. Especially the State believes that as you read on:
and finally. This stadium deal is fundamentally different from every other PSL funding deals in history.
Pegs is funding all his portion up front including cost overruns to be determined completely separate from PSL money eventually brought in. And it has absolutely no bearing on how much, how little, or if any PSL money is raised. Or if 20 trillion is raised. Pegs is locked into the deal as is.
State wanted no part of this unknown and got Pegs to agree on the deal as is.
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23 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Is your laptop autocorrecting PSLs into "Pegs"?
that's funny as hell lmao........but truly it's his money either way.
20 hours ago, Just Jack said:Are there any water wells in Love Canal not being used? They could pipe some of that to the stadium for the visitors.
🤣😂😂i don't think this is what they had in mind with the "Choose Love" campaign.
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On 4/7/2023 at 4:26 PM, Draconator said:
You obviously missed the reason for the $140 Million extra cost.
- Bigger canopy covering the fans
- Enhanced electronics and amenities throughout the stadium to enhance the game day experience for the fans
no i did not. All those are good things. Point is Pegs is responsible for it. It is still a cost overrun and Pegs is responsible.
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Now reported the deal is for $1.54 billion and Pegs is responsible for the $140 million additional cost from the original of $1.4 billion.
so we have cost overrun before one shovel is in the ground yet. lol. Considering the long construction timeframe, the volitivity of steel and supplies prices, some add ons these projects always get, and some inevitable construction cost surprises, you can bet this will approach 2 billion when done.
Pegs is responsible for all cost overruns.
I was widely criticized for harping on Pegs would end up paying over 50%, however, that is on track as we speak.
NY state 600 mill
Pegs/NFL 550 mill(250 mill is from NFL program Bills pd into for decades and will pay in for eternity. So is Pegs contribution. Bills actually eventually will pay
more into this then they get out of it until next new stadium is built in Buffalo)
Erie Co. 250 mill
Pegs 50 mill for Highmark demo.
cost o-run 140 million Pegs cost.
so Pegs is paying $740 mill already. Almost 50% already.
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Patriots disciplined for violating offseason rules
in The Stadium Wall
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cheaters gonna cheat. It's in their DNA.