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Want- Hooker
Dont Want- Mahomes/Kizer
Dark Horse- Reddick
Think- Mike Williams
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1) Browns- Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
2) 49ers- Malik Hooker, S OSU
3) Bears- Solomon Thomas, DL Stanford4) Jags- OJ Howard TE, Alabama
5) Titans- Johnathan Allen, DT Alabama
6) Jets- Marshon Lattimore, CB OSU
7) Chargers- Jamal Adams, S LSU
8) Panthers- Leonard Fournette, RB LSU
9) Bengals- Haason Reddick, LB Temple
10) Bills- Deshaun Watson QB Clemson (I do think the Bills will try to trade down)1. Browns - Myles Garrett, DE 2. 49ers - Solomon Thomas, DE 3. Bears - Jamal Adams, S 4. Jaguars - Jonathan Allen, DT 5. Titans - Marshon Lattimore, CB 6. Jets - Malik Hooker, S 7. Chargers - Reuben Foster, ILB 8. Panthers - OJ Howard, TE 9. Bengals - Corey Davis, WR Because we're Buffalo that's what's going to happen. 10. Bills - If that's how the top 10 goes I'm trading back no further then 14-18.
I doubt Whaley would draft a small school guy in round 1 anyways. He drafts from power schools in power conferences, in rounds 1-3.
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Kupp’s appeal and strength was never as a burner. He is a precise route runner, with decent size, football smarts and great hands. He won’t outrun them in space, he uses movement and misdirection, coordination and speed/direction changes to get separation, not blinding speed. A middle of the field, slot guy who will fight for yards after the catch in traffic. A perfect complement to Watkins. But don’t expect him to be there beyond the mid 2nd round. Not sure he would be a #2, but would be a perfect #3 WR.
“Crafty route runner, setting up defenders and using hesitation to create spacing. Clearly leans on his technique and trusts it. Sticky hands with the natural coordination to pluck the ball. Excellent awareness at the catch point and doesn't need to gear down to assess his surroundings after the catch. At his best on in-cutting and post routes to manipulate space in the middle of the field. Not shy about using his abusive stiff arm to pick up extra yards, refusing to concede as a ballcarrier….. Marginal long-speed and lacks explosive twitch in his patterns. Relies more on timing/nuance than burst to create separation mid-route.”
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2006951/cooper-kupp
I agree with everything you said. I think Kupp would be a great number 3, I would be very happy with him in the third round. There is no way I am drafting him in the second though, he is not athletic enough to be a number 2 in the NFL.
I think he's a top 6-8 WR in the class
Don't see him lasting til the third
Josh Reynolds is another guy that is flying under the radar.
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Don't know anything other than what I've read about this guy so I'll turn this over to someone with firsthand knowledge:
Chad Hansen (Cal.)--seems like he's got a back story--transfer to Cal from Idaho State.
According to PFF he's a work in progress, who they have as the 97th overall player, so he might be around in the 3rd--he is a physical deep threat who can go up and get the ball (had a bunch of deep ball receptions--Tyrod can throw a deep ball!). They compare him to Demaryius Thomas (pretty bold) and he could be the "high pointing" WR that Buddy Nix could never find us .
Here's PFF's take: https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-chad-hansen-wr-california/
NFL.com has him rated there with Godwin, Kupp, Zay Jones--2nd or 3rd round:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/chad-hansen?id=2558069
Chad Hansen is going to be a great NFL player. I think he has second round talent but seem to be under the radar for whatever reason. He would win the WR2 job in training camp and hold that position for many years.
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I honestly think Howard has a chance to go top 5. I would be all for drafting him with the 10th pick though.
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So really we are going to be a nickel based defence rather than a 4-3. We need more corners and more hybrids. Seems like this system is built on versatile players. Hyde can play S, hybrid S/LB, and nickel.
Peppers fits a similar type of mold in the draft. The next most versatile defender in the draft would be Reddick. It will be interesting if that trend continues.
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Right now I kinda like trading down and getting Haason Reddick in the first.
I love this signing, I don't think the Bills draft a WR high after locking up Holmes for four years. Holmes should be an upgrade over Woods in our offence (I feel like Tyrod will do better with big WRs). Should be a solid #2/3, I wouldn't mind adding a guy like Chad Hansen in the third. He might be my favorite WR in the draft.
It is looking more and more likely we add a LB in round 1. I think the Bills will try to trade down and draft Cunningham or Reddick. If there are no trade partners they may stay put and draft Foster. Whaley loves his Alabama prospects.
Look for CB in round 2, Tabor might fall to us. He would be a great fit for a zone scheme, the guy is the best play making DB in the draft.
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The AFC South is still the weakest division. I could see any of the four teams winning. None of them stand out to me.
It would not surprise me at all if Oakland regressed a bit this year. They are also in the toughest division in the AFC. Denver and KC could easily knock them off.
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In the off-season of 2013 the Bills handled their QB situation poorly. Kolb was signed as the veteran stop gap but the team probably should have been more aggressive in the market finding other options as far as having a pair of competent veteran QB's. Maybe had the team got a couple of Kyle Orton type QB's they would have been more comfortable at the position enough to not feel like they had to get a QB in the draft. The made an excellent trade down to pick up an extra 2nd round pick and they could have gotten a lot of talented players at pick 16. Instead the team felt compelled to reach for EJ since they needed a QB.
EJ wasn't the right player and it wasn't the right time. EJ probably would have been best suited to play behind a talented veteran QB for 2-3 years. Learn the game slowly spend years working on footwork and mastering a system. EJ has the work ethic, the smarts, and the physical tools he just lacked the technique and footwork to be successful in the pros. Had he been in a good spot after being drafted maybe he could have worked out. But the Bills were not that spot, at best they maybe could have sat him for a year but they were forced to go with EJ early and the results showed.
That is why I am so happy we kept Tyrod. If we let him go we would have put ourselves in the exact same situation. Keep Tyrod until we draft someone that can beat him out.
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The AFC is wide open.
The Patriots and Steelers are locks to make the playoffs, that is it.
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Cutting Wood is silly. I am happy to have good oline depth for once. Great signing.
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Usually we bring in our first pick and a few other picks in for predraft visits. Our first pick also comes from a power program in Whaleys tenure.
The favorites in round one off of that list have to be Peppers and Watson.
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I think Mahomes or Kizer will fall to the second.
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I think they knew this was coming. They signed Ducasse to be a backup guard last week. They must be okay with Patrick Lewis as a backup center.
Sucks to lose Groy, he filled in well last year.
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This draft is starting to remind me of 2012, the year we drafted Gilmore. Buffalo had needs all over the field, and the mock drafts were as scattered as they come. Various mocks had us taking WR Justin Blackmon, S Mark Barron, WR Michael Floyd, DE Quinton Coples, and others.
When we picked CB Stephon Gilmore, I said "Huh? Really?" Hard to get excited about a CB...after all, there's like 11 of those on every team, but whatever. But when I read about him, I thought "Okay, sounds like a shutdown guy. I guess I can get onboard."
Now it's 2017. Most of us are thinking WR or S. Some folks think we snag LB Foster based on his blue chip stock. But CB? Until we let Gilmore walk, did anyone really think CB was priority #1? More to the point, did anyone WANT cornerback to be priority #1? I mean...wasn't a toss-up between WR and S...when there are exceptional candidates at both spots...enough positions to choose from?
Which is why I think many of us will be surprised (and disappointed) when we go CB in round 1. We may follow that up with WR, OT, and S in the rounds that follow, but the consensus will be that we missed a golden opportunity to snag a stud at one of those positions of need in round 1.
I'm prepared to hate this draft. But I'd rather hate the draft and love the results than love the draft and hate the results.
That would not surprise me at all. That kid from LSU might be a possibility if Lattimore is off the board. They haven't even tried to upgrade corner in FA, so they must believe they will fill that need in the draft. The only question is round 1 or round 2.
I could not have done any better except I think TE is OK with Clay and think (VT homer) Logan Thomas is a sleeper there. Just go WR or DB again there - but even that is a quibble given the deep TE class as well.
Well done, sir.
Logan Thomas definitely has a chance to be good, hopefully he makes a Tyrelle Pryor type of transition.
What are your thoughts on Jerod Evans? He had a great year last year. It would be kind of neat to have three former VT QBs on the roster, haha.
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Assuming Adams and Hooker are gone and Foster is there at 8, I would give Carolina something to move ahead of Cincy and take him. Carolina will be able to get their running back at 10. We need to have a home run draft and we need to get one of the elite players. Foster will likely be one of the best linebackers in the league in a few years. He could be a difference maker instantly.
I would be pretty mad if we traded up for another LB. We have so many holes to fill.
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They need WR help just as much as secondary help.
If they aren't drafting a QB early(I'll be disappointed) then it has to be between secondary and WR.
I thought they would target a QB as well. I think they would have had to add a starter at DB and WR in free agency, if that was their plan.
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I expect the Bills to draft secondary early and often in this draft. This year is a rare opportunity to develop a dominant secondary with such a deep pool.
Hyde locks up one starting safety position, Poyer's contract seems to indicate a guy that is a backup for both safety positions and is a key special teams contributor. It appears we have a starting safety position open, I expect that to be filled in the first two rounds.
I think the Bills view Darby as a solid starter, but I think they would prefer to have Seymor as a nickel. Roberson showed some potential and should lock up the fifth spot. We need a starter, a 4th string, and a 6th string at this position (we should have at least six with NE going 4 WR every play). The Bills will address this in round 1 or 2.
WR is another position we need to add to early. Luckily this is a deep draft and we can find solid production from guys in the middle rounds. I think we can find a solid starter (for a run first team) in round 3. We have a great number 1, Listenbee could be a number 4, and Brown should be a number 5. We need a number 2 and a number 3 still. It would be nice to add a guy like Quick so we only have to add one guy in the draft.
We really need to add another developmental QB, we don't have the picks to do it right now. I think the Bills will look to trade down and add additional picks. I don't think there will be many suitors though as there is not a lot of separation in picks 15-90. We may add a guy like Evans in the 5th round.
1st round- I think the Bills are hoping that Hooker, Lattimore, or Adams fall to them. There is a decent chance of that happening. If not they will really try to trade down, but will most likely settle for Peppers or one of the top WRs.
2nd round- I expect the Bills to target a DB in the second round. Wilson, Tabor, Jackson, Moreau, and Awuzie are typically 1st round corners. One of these guys will fall to us.
3rd round- There are some great WR prospect flying under the radar right now. Cooper Kupp will drop because of his 40 time, probably only to late round 2. Samuel and Zay Jones will go in round 2. The guys I would hope for is Chad Hansen, he has everything you want in a 2nd WR. Godwin, Reynolds, and Cannon have some good number two qualities as well.
Round 5 and 6 we need to add a QB, DB, and TE. If we do all those thing we will be looking pretty good going into the year.
Round 1- Jamal Adams S
Round 2- Fabian Moreau DB
Round 3- Chad Hansen WR
Round 5- George Kittle TE
Round 5- Jerod Evans QB
Round 6- Erza Robinson DB
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Right now based on need, and probably value, WR. CB is also up there. Darkhorse could be TE Howard or a QB
It would not shock me if Howard was the pick. Very safe pick, the kid would instantly upgrade the passing game. It would be interesting to see if Howard was above Davis and Williams on the Bills board. He is essentially a WR with his skill set.
Plus we know Whaley likes taking guys from successful programs in round 1.
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Man I hope Dennison finally uses screens. The WR screen has been dominant for NE for years (Peyton Manning used it effectively as well).
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Seems to be about right, odds wise.
Adams, Lattimore, Davis, and Watson are the favorites at this point.
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1 year deal.
So not even guaranteed to make the team then. We do need to keep adding numbers though.
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Seems like a WR4, still need a WR 2 and WR 3.
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While he managed to save himself from being the bust he seemed to be, he still isn't that good.
If he's modestly priced I'd support it though.
He played really well the last couple years. He has had trouble staying healthy though.
Malcolm Butler wants out of New England
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Butler is so much better than Gilmore, I think this will blow up on the Pats.