Scott7975

I think that thread would be massive popular here. Look at how much everyone talks about the cover 1 stuff around here and when Einstein or a couple others throw some stuff up. People love seeing plays broke down and ones like me that aren't so smart love hearing/reading how it supposed to work. Honestly some of it is still over my head because I had some brain damage but I still like it. As long as it isn't like wall of text jargon I don't understand.

I agree. I dont think KC has looked like the class of the conference either. Their offense has been as bad as ours. Their D has been killing it though. I think our D would have been killing it if not for the injuries but it is what it is.

Ok but does that matter when we scored 6 points and 18 points in a loss those two games? If you want EPA to show that the offense was good those two games then you are just looking for reasons to make the offense look good when it wasn't. I watched those two games and the offense was terrible.

Defenses don't adjust shallow because they don't give a crap about the shallow. We could take it all game long and they wouldn't adjust because it doesn't matter. When you throw for 2-3 yards a pop, it only takes one mistake to kill the drive. Those drives are too long to consistently be perfect. This is the backbone of what McD has done on defense since he has gotten here. It is nothing new.

I’m reaching? Seems you agree with me. Did you read my post?

I watched the video a day ago. My memory is not that good to pair each player on each play with your comments. I’ll look again tomorrow. as for “taking away what Josh likes” you realize this isn’t the first year defense has given Josh this coverage right? It’s not even the second year. Josh has faced and torched this coverage when Daboll was here too. josh has faced man. He has faced zone. He has faced blitz. He has faced cover zero. He has faced two high designed to take away the deep stuff. He has torched it all. That’s why Josh was a problem in 2021 for defenses. Because he torched everything thrown at him. Daboll had a plan, not just a generic system. Daboll was also far more creative and less predictable. Dorsey just lines up and runs the play. I’m not even a Daboll fan but Dorsey’s offense isnt even in his league.

The design is still the problem. This is not what Josh excels at. You make your offense around the personnel, not force the personnel into stuff they don't excel at. Imagine Miami having Tua chuck balls like Josh last year. It doesn't work that way. I am also not sure I agree with your assessment but I don't have all22 so...

Oddly the Chiefs got Reid because his team also recognized he couldn't get Philly over the hump. Both teams have since been to Super Bowls lol. I banged the table for the Bills to get Reid that year.

I can already envision our D chasing a fat over the hill Wilson to the first down marker and not get the tackle.

I think that is probably coupled with his year of mediocrity. More so the last 5 weeks of crap offense. If it were a once in a while game, I doubt you'd hear as much outrage.

Funny. I read a quote from Dorsey saying the went away from it because of field position. Whatever the hell that means.

I wished you had the time to do what cover 1 does. Id watch that all day over them. It's obvious you know what the hell you are talking about. I think those guys are ok but not to the extent of your knowledge.

Disagree. Josh makes that throw against the same coverage quite a bit. Just that everyone cheers when its a TD or 20-30 yard gain. They don't question the decision.

Well first I never said the comparisons are ridiculous unless I am more braindead than I thought. I said they aren't the same. We don't have the same soft schedule, we don't have the same weak division, and we haven't looked THIS bad on a 5 game stretch. Secondly, these are my thoughts about where current things stand. I'll bring it back when I want. That could be every week for an update on standings each week. That might not even be until the end of the season where I can say I was right or wrong. It won't be because I am so braindead that I can't remember my own thread though. I'm not that damn stupid. I mean, you are still running a Josh Allen MVP thread. Should I insult your memory and tell you to bring that up at the end of the year when he once again doesn't win it?

Last 5? Did you get drunk and watch 2021 three times or something?

Can you blame him though? Peterman tore up McDs prized defense in practice. He had to think Peterman was a god.

Oh I am well aware of the people banging on Daboll. I was one of them, but for specific reason not because of a 5 game slump. In the year you refer to, we had a soft schedule after that 7-6 start. There was no one else that was a real threat to the division. Our O never looked this bad for that long of a stretch. You refuse to see that part. I'm not saying we aren't going to make the playoffs. I am saying that it's going to be far more difficult this year to do so if we don't win the division. It is also no given that we win the division this year either. I know people were shaking in their boots about the Pats that year but I certainly wasnt one of them. Miami is a real threat to it this year. Maybe they fall apart but the Pats were just lucky af that year. Miami hasn't been lucky. They been blowing out the teams in their wins. For the record, I appreciate the response. I am not here for emojies. I'm here for discussion. I enjoy discussion. I aint always right and I will admit when I am wrong. I do stand by myself with conviction until proven wrong though. Thats just me. Other than a certain poster around here I hold no ill will toward anyone. Im just here for talk. This is roughly where I am at as well.

That stat isn't even correct. The average is 5.2. Meaning 15th in the league is 5.2. The same 15th in the league last season was 4.8. That ranges all the way to 7.1 at the top. Last year the top was 6.0. I am not even going to look further if I already found that discrepancy. And again, yards only matter if you put points up.

Comparatively to 2020 and 2021 yes, offense is down ~5 ppg. However, compared to last year its only 0.2 difference. As far as defense is concerned, I am not absolving defense. It has not been good. They give up a lot of big plays, especially on 3rd and long. They seem to do well on 1st and 2nd down only for that to happen, with the exception of the couple times they also allowed a huge play on 1st at the end of a game. I just think they did ok this specific week. Not great but IMO good enough to win against that team had the offense held up it's end of the bargain. Also they did great against Miami. Defense at least has some excuse. Who do we actually have left as difference makers? I know we have big investments on defense but not necessarily difference makers. Most of them are out and the others that are close to that seem to get hurt almost every week. Truthfully I am partially disappointed on that point as well. Oliver, Groot, and Floyd should be doing better than they are. They flashed but seemed to have disappeared. The offense still has Josh and Diggs at minimum. Kincaid is imo a difference maker but people will use "rookie" if I say that. Cook also can be explosive and how many people here get their panties in a bunch when someone says Davis sucks? Shakir has made plays just about every time he gets the ball yet is an afterthought. This team has far far better weapons than the Chiefs this year. I would argue that Kelce has been hobbled all season and he is old. Diggs is better than everything they have and I would argue even Davis/Shakir would be their #1 right now. All that team does is drop footballs. There is no excuse for this offense to not put up more points. I've said it before and I will say it again, I don't care what EPA and DVOA show. This team put up 6 points, 14 points, and 18 points in 3 of the last 5 games. 20 and 24 in the other 2. There is nothing you can say that would make me believe that is somehow one of the best in the NFL. Over the last 5 weeks the Bills rank 20th or 24 in PPG (I forgot what I looked up, it was one of those.) All the analytic stats in the world take a back seat to points. Points is what wins football games, not some analytically feely good stats. I do. Josh makes some mistakes as do others, but overall I put our offensive slump on the coaches.

"However, McDermott and Dorsey have both admitted that the head coach is getting his fingers on the game plan on offense. “I’m doing everything that I can as a head coach to make sure that things are the way that I want them and expect them to be across all three phases,” McDermott said via video conference. Dorsey confirmed McDermott’s input, too. He even said he thinks McDermott’s vantage point as a defensive coordinator can be useful to him. “He’s got a great mind for the game,” Dorsey said." It's likely they didn't like each other because they didn't like each others philosophy. I am not going to pretend to know exactly why, but I am pretty sure they both shower so I doubt it's that. I am also pretty sure they don't care what each other eats for lunch so I doubt it's that. Pretty sure it's probably football related.

On that we agree. If these were single games then I wouldn't think much of it. Unfortunately this is a 5 game stretch of them now. Although I will say that KC has practically mirrored our bad offense this year. They aren't the same team they were either. Their defense has been pretty damn good this year though.

I wouldn't say no shot but yes, Cook was an easier option as well. You'd be surprised how fast good defense flies to the ball. Especially when they are all watching the QB and reacting to him when he starts his throwing motion. Either way, on that play it was both a bad decision and throw. Its also one Allen has made quite a lot so its hard to criticize because if you criticize that then you also have to criticize when he makes the TD or a 20+ yard gain on the same exact throw and coverage.

I don't agree with you that offense had the slight edge over defense but yes... ST was bad too.

Yes, I know I don't have the full gist of understanding it but I have brain problems. What I do understand is that I don't care if we had the best EPA in the league this week if we only put up 18 points in a loss.

EPA doesn't show the actual offense. You can get good expected points added all game long but if you aren't scoring points it doesn't matter. If the offense got 4 yards on first down and 5 yards on second down that's pretty good epa. If they then throw an incompletion on 3rd down and punt, those first two plays were still good epa but we no longer have the ball and its a failed drive. We can start a drive on our own 10 and Allen could throw a 20 yard pass and we would get good EPA. He could then go 3 and out from there and its still a failed drive. The stat is more so "what was the teams chance to score" than "did the team actually score."