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  1. On 1/16/2023 at 3:59 PM, The Red King said:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-world-furious-with-league-s-announcement-tonight/ar-AA16nRiP

     

    I started a post awhile back asking why we couldn't use a chip to determine where the ball is/was.  Apparently they can do this, determining the Ravens QB was 0.5 yards short of the goal line.


     

    As was stated in your other thread - they have had a chip in the ball for years.  The reason it is an issue is syncing everything up and determine in a pile when the ball was down.

     

    They also struggle with the Ball direction since it is not a sphere - the length of the ball is different depending on the angle - so all testing is in play, but nothing exact.

     

    Every player and the foot balls are all chipped allowing tons of data to be used, but the only time it can really provide data is if the RB or QB in Huntley’s case are never down and no whistle blows.  In that case they could get a fairly good idea of exactly how far the ball moved, but it still is not 100% accurate at this time, but provides realities data to confirm with visual images.

     

     

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  2. 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

    The amount of commercials and the length of commercial breaks is so ridiculous at this point, it has killed the game.  An NFL game should never be 4 hours.  You are talking about 1 hour of clock time, and maybe 11 mins of actual game play.

     

    The NFL knows there will be breaks for injuries and reviews, they should not be taking 5 mins commercials after a 1 min drive.  Over and over again, 1 min will come off the clock, and after a punt, there is 5 mins of commercials.

     

    I rarely watch prime time NFL games because I hate all the stoppages.  On Sundays they have red zone and you pretty much avoid this nonsense.

     

    It has become a chore to watch the Bills play exclusively, and at some point, it's just too boring to continue.

     

    At least you have players making over 40 million a year.  Props to the NFL for continuing to increase the cash flow, while selling a worse product.


     

    The length of the game yesterday was not on the NFL - it was on the ***** QB play of the Dolphins. He had 27 incompletions and then with the clock not moving - they still took the play clock down to zero almost every play.

     

    If you watched other games like the Giants game where they completed most passes and ran efficiently- the game was under 3 hours.

  3. 16 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

    We won't win next week playing this way.  No need to listen to me, wait a few days.

     

     


     

    Yeah because Cincinnati dominated Baltimore with a back-up QB.

     

    I mean it is not like Baltimore was going in to take a lead and fumbled the ball for a TD the other way.

     

    It is not like Cincinnati produced significantly less offense than Baltimore and got multiple timely turnovers that gave them short fields and allowed them to squeak out a win.

     

    I mean my god Cincinnati must have put up one of the most dominating wins of the weekend.

     

    🤦‍♂️

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  4. 5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

    Exactly. They thought they could sneak him through waivers and re sign the next day because he had done nothing up to that point. Joe Schoen and Daboll were familiar and grabbed him. It wasn’t anything to do with evaluation but rather a calculated risk vs releasing another player. It backfired and that happens when you have a deep roster. 

     

     

    Exactly.
     

    They had a chance to grab him earlier in the season when he was cut by the Bills and moved to the PS originally.  The Bills calculated he would make it and he did.

     

    He got nabbed just after the trade deadline only because NYG traded a WR at that point freeing up the spot.

     

    He had showed by that point he was the 6th best WR on our roster - so you have to make a roster move.  
     

    Just because he has been ok in NY getting playing time does not mean he would be able to do it here.  
     

    He had time with Dabol here and Dabol couldn’t use him - and if it was not for trading a WR - they never pick him up in NY.

     

     

  5. 10 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

     

    And if you decide to kick deep for touchbacks you still don't miss them even if you haven't got them.


     

    Yeah - I mean it is not like we returned two kickoffs for TDs in the last 8 days or anything and 1 of them from several yards deep.

     

    JHC this is so dumb I don’t even know what to say.  Your brilliant plan is to kick deep - I don’t know where as all it takes is a bit of a breeze blowing the wrong direction and kickers can’t get it to the end zone.  Plus you have punts, free kicks, etc.

     

    You act like ST only cover kick-offs 🤦‍♂️  - you want to know the difference look no further than NE that saw ST cost them multiple games and help them win games.  
     

    It would be just one more thing for pathetic people to complain about rather than a guy the Bills liked, but was never going to play in this window.  

  6. 5 hours ago, Beck Water said:


      They have a good DC who has been able to slow us down.

     

    As long as we don’t make stupid ass mistakes I expect the Bills to win handily but I don’t expect to see us relax and take our foot off the gas until the game is over.


     

    I agree with most of the sentiment, but I really can not get behind the above.  Do they really have a good DC in Miami?  
     

    They are 2 separate teams home and on the road - they are giving up under 20 pts per game at home, but when they go on the road - they are giving up significantly more on average - over 25 and closer to 30 pts per game and have a negative point differential overall on the season.

     

    So if we consider their offense to be very good and the defense is giving up more points on the season - either the defense is bad or the offense is not as good as we suspect.

     

    To the point of a DC that has been able to slow us down - We put up 497 yards of offense in game 1 and another 450 yards in game 2 with Josh throwing for 6 TDs and 0 Ints and getting 1 AFC player of the week honor.  They have stopped us on a few drives and held us to FGs in the red zone sometimes, but basically in both games Josh has moved the Bills on most drives.

     

    The last statement is 100% correct, but I expect after this game the Dolphins will be looking to move on from the this DC as with the talent they have and how they played (they have gone from 6th to 12th to 24th in points against the last 3 seasons).

     

     

  7. 10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

    Just a little note that the section the reporters watched featured Tim Settle being attended by trainers and helped off - yet he isn’t listed as limited.  So I don’t think one should rely 100% on what the reporters see as gospel.  They’re good at reporting what they see, but players do spend more time getting treatments then come out and join practice.  The Bills have also reported hammies and groin injuries that have not caused players to lose time as well as hammies that have kept players out 3 weeks.  So I’d say we don’t know which this is, at this point.

     

    As far as early Bease elevation “tipping a hand”, I feel that I’ve spelled out why I think that and with all respect, you’re doing the “lalalal not listening” thing, so I’m out.  I”ll just point out once again that there is a large vocabulary of plays that Beasley used to run, that got taken out of the Bills playbook early in this season.

     

    There are also a number of plays McKenzie runs that Beasley really can’t at this point - but Shakir could theoretically manage most of those and Hines many of the rest

     

     

    What does “handshake work” mean?  I’ve never heard that term

     

    Says he was not seen throwing

     

     

     

    Are they talking literally, handshakes, like Josh Allen’s handshakes with his crew?


     

    So basically you don’t want the Bills to “tip their hand”, but by activating Beasley and forcing the Dolphins go back and gameplan for Beasley is a bad thing?

     

    It is not lalalala crap - it is I genuinely do not understand what difference it makes if the Bills know the extent of the Hammy injury and expect that he is not going to play - why not get Cole activated.  The Dolphins would have been planning for him - just as the Bills are planning for Skylar, but still watching for Bridgewater news.

     

    The Biggest loss in all this to me is McK typically plays Hill in the scout team and now you have lost that.

     

    We will see, but I expect (as you said in an earlier post) - you will have Cole doing his part, Shakir doing the man routes more, and Hines doing the heavy motion/sweeps.  
     

     

  8. 53 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

    Because it's "tipping your hand" offensively as to what game plan intentions may be

     

     

    First of all...I don't think we even know yet that McK DNP'd.  He wasn't out there during the media portion of practice, but it's not unprecedented for players the media didn't see to be listed as DNP

     

    Do you really think that players on the PS aren't "involved and active 100%" without being officially elevated, especially if they know they're in the game plan?

     

     

     

    Flip it around...even if this move is required, why does the GM make it now and not Saturday?  Why tip off the Dolphins that maybe McKenzie's injury is significant and he'll be inactive?  Why not leave them guessing?

     

     


     

    Not really tipping your hand - McK pulled a hammy yesterday in practice - basically since then every Buffalo reporter has basically been saying he will not practice and based upon how the Bills treat soft tissue and muscle pulls - he will be out this weekend and depending on how bad it is maybe limited or out next week.

     

    The Bills will have to list him on the injury report - so how big of a surprise that your slot guy can’t go would it be for the Bills to call up the PS slot guy that has done it before. 
     

    Why hide it at this point.  The Bills are going to start and play the veteran slot guy and use Shakir as his back-up.  
     

    We are beyond the larger salary cap situation- so the call up doesn’t impact that.

     

    I could understand for a physical issue - Phillips shoulder - that maybe you want to keep that close as he may or may not play, but a pure speed guy like McK with a pulled Hammy - they are not going to risk that when they have a player like Cole ready to go.

     

    As to the question of are PS players as invested - it depends on the player - most of them are only seeing time right now as scout duty, but activating a guy like Cole also tells the team - here is what we expect and who will be doing what.

     

    I don’t think McD at this point is trying to figure out how to trick the Dolphins - he is ready just line us up and go play - we are the better team and have been in both meetings.

     

     

    1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

     

    Because it's "tipping your hand" offensively as to what game plan intentions may be

     

     

    First of all...I don't think we even know yet that McK DNP'd.  He wasn't out there during the media portion of practice, but it's not unprecedented for players the media didn't see to be listed as DNP

     

    Do you really think that players on the PS aren't "involved and active 100%" without being officially elevated, especially if they know they're in the game plan?

     

     

     

    Flip it around...even if this move is required, why does the GM make it now and not Saturday?  Why tip off the Dolphins that maybe McKenzie's injury is significant and he'll be inactive?  Why not leave them guessing?

     

     

    And now it is official - DNP for McK - just as reported in the section the reporters watch.

     

     

  9. 15 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

    Good points but one caveat on the last one:

     

    RPO in the original sense "run pass option" need not involve the QB, correct?  It technically just involves a running back and a passing threat

     

    I think you're talking about a so called "triple option" or "triple threat" RPO, where the QB can either hand off, pass, or keep it himself and run (which does indeed require a mobile QB who presents a run threat.

     

     

    Sounds like he must have injured his hammy during practice yesterday.  Sucks that we might not have him available as an emergency DB.

     

     

    The thing is, Beane had no need to make this move today.  He could make it on Saturday.

     

    That's why I think it may be strategic.


     

    Why would it matter today versus Saturday?  
     

    You have an injury to McKenzie who is DNP and not practicing - you know you need to bring up a WR and a DL - this gets him involved and active 100%.

     

    Since we are in the playoffs - there is no longer a cost to brining him up.

     

    He already walked off the TB team and has stated this was the only place he was coming back to - so I don’t really see a strategy or another team trying to take him.

     

    I see an injury that is taking out your starter and you activating his replacement giving you maximum flexibility come this weekend.

     

    Maybe I am wrong, but nothing suggests he was going anyplace and they needed this action and everything suggests the injury sustained by McK yesterday in practice makes this move required to provide WR slot depth.

     

     

  10. 11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    What happened with McKenzie, went into practice yesterday healthy, got hurt in practice and landed into the limited category. 

     

    Now today he is not practicing.

     

    Bills were already playing a short rotation at DT with Phillips not close to 100%. 


     

    Per the reports - he tweaked a Hammy.

     

    I would expect him out this week and hence the Beasley call up.

     

    Gives them multiple people at Slot - although Shakir was already seeing a nice increase in workload.

     

     

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  11. 36 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

    Why wouldn't they sign Brown and call up Beasley?? 

     

    34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

     

    It's possible a team tried to poach Beasley from our practice squad, so we signed him to 53 to match the $


     

    Because the injured player he is being called up for is McKenzie in the slot.

     

    You don’t sign Brown to the roster to fill a slot need - you sign the slot guy.

     

    Yes if no one else gets injured it matters very little if it is Brown or Beasley, but with Phillips already injured and we are short at DT and DE - another injury like Settle may mean you have to call up two DL players and then you are stuck with Brown, Diggs, Davis on the outside and only Shakir as a slot WR.

     

    I don’t think it has anything to do with anything other than proper roster maintenance.

     

    They plugged in for the injury.

     

     

    37 minutes ago, StHustle said:

    I’m confused why they signed him to the 53 with unlimited call ups? Seems Brown was more deserving of its for contractual reasons.


    Beasley can reject it. He wouldn’t be forced to go to another team 


     

    McKenzie Hamstring injury - he is most likely out at least this game and maybe next week.

     

     

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  12. 7 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

    Why Atlanta which is so far away from both cities?

     

    Why not Indy, Cincy or even Chicago?

     

    Doesn't seem to me like the NFL took fans travel time and costs into consideration here.


     

    Indy was the first spot looked at and they declined - Have a huge volleyball tournament in town eating up hotel space.

     

    Cincy was eliminated do to being outside and why would the Bills want to go there after the Monday night event.

     

    Chicago is also outside and a smaller venue.  From all of the discussions - they were looking for a neutral site that would not be impacted by the weather and a city that would not be biased against either team.

     

    Their preference seemed to be a domed NFC stadium or Indy in a no division city.  They tried Indy, Detroit, and Atlanta as their 3 primary venues.  Detroit and Indy were unavailable - so it defaulted toward Atlanta.

     

    I think in reality the NFL did take a lot of consideration into making the call - Atlanta is a major airline hub - so fairly easy to get direct flights in and out.

     

    The weather should be fine and the dome will ensure the game is played in perfect conditions.

     

    For everything that screws us over - this seems like an excellent location that should be highly accommodating and will provide a venue that Bills fans can travel to and many are already in the area.

     

     

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  13. 18 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

     

    Well they don't really have to anymore since they were fired :)


     

    But they were not fired for anything that occurred in the game - both the NFL and the NFLPA agreed the protocols as written were followed and the INC was not at fault.

     

    The NFLPA fired him because in their meetings he acted like most doctors can when questioned and got ticked at how they were questioning him and trying to lay blame - so he became combative with their attorney.

     

     

  14. On 1/9/2023 at 1:04 AM, chongli said:

     


     

    He should be sorry - terrible job coaching and getting nothing out of the year.

     

    He played a QB the entire game that was terrible (although none of them were good) - he should of started to switch things around to try and spark the team - they needed a frickin FG at some point - even if you stick the 3rd string guy in and let him run - you get more than from Flacco.

     

     

     

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  15. 3 hours ago, wppete said:

    I’m surprised. 1st year OC doing a decent job. Maybe he could be a HC in the future and they want to get an early look at him?  


     

    Potentially going to a team he was on staff with in the past and with a FO in Dan Morgan that knows him from multiple spots - why wouldn’t they interview him.

     

    Like Dabol in NYC - the GM/Assistant GM has worked with and believes they can work together.

     

    I actually think Dorsey could make a great HC - not sure he is ready, but he has QB experience and did a bit of scouting with Carolina originally, but this is more about finding a good fit between FO and coaching staff.  Finding a highly qualified DC is much easier as those positions are not getting HC jobs - so you can pick those guys up all over, but a young talented OC that you are somewhat familiar with is  what teams are dying for.

     

     

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  16. 4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    Nope.  They’ll get paid.  Herbert, Burrow and Hurts are about to break the bank. Then lawrence.  Then the kids in college.  


     

    This exactly - it isn’t changing anytime soon and will only get bigger.

     

    The new WR deals means with huge range increases are just a foreshadowing of the new QB deals.  
     

    The 4 guys mentioned above and then guys like Allen and Mahomes getting their next deals will all push what the league was worth a few years ago.

     

     

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  17. 21 hours ago, Einstein said:

     

    Sorry for the confusion. When someone puts “~” next to a number, that means it’s it’s approximately any number in that series. So 40~% is any number between 40 and 49.

     

    He is not (for the most part) alternating with Jackson as Jackson has played 81% of defensive snaps for the year. There may be a couple games he did but overall it has been Jackson in and Elam out depending on zone or man (not based on series).

     

    In the last 5 games, Elam has had:

     

    Jets - 0% of snaps

    Mia - 48% of snaps

    Patriots - 0% of snaps

    Chi - 47% of snaps

    Cin - 0% of snaps (but obviously a shortened game)

     

    He has not had anything higher than 48% since October. 

     

    And I have a feeling with Benford coming back, Elams percentage is going to dip even lower.

     

     

     

     

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    They most certainly have been switching on and off many games - early in the season it was Elam and Beneford switching with Jackson getting 100% of the snaps.  Then injuries hit and you had a couple of games where Elam and Jackson both played nearly 100%.  Then Elam got nicked up and the Bills rotated in Rhodes and White returned and you saw Jackson and Rhodes split time and Elam sit.  And now Jackson and Elam are back to splitting time opposite White.

     

    For example as Elam has seen his play hover close to 50% the last 2 games - Jackson has seen his drop to 53% and 59% with him filling in for White on 8% of the snaps against Chicago.
     

    The Bills sat Elam for the 2 games against NE and NYJ as they ran a ton of zone and wanted better run support and that is fine.  That is exactly what everyone including the Bills said about Elam prior to the season and as long as you have healthy DBs they are using them to mix up defensive coverages and make adjustments.

     

    Therefore based on Miami and Chicago breakdowns - there would have been no reason to not expect he would have rotated in series 3+4 and played nearly 50% of the snaps as they had done the 2 previous weeks against Cincinnati - so as I said even mentioning Cincinnati is just stupid and you trying to make it look like he wasn’t going to play.  

     

    Jackson also rotated with Rhodes in the 1st NE game to give Rhodes playing time - they alternated ever 2 series throughout the game almost completely.

     

    I will be interested in this game as NE being a run team - do they want to play nearly 100% zone and work the edges with DBs to tackle in which case they may limit Elam with Beneford or do they maintain the nearly equal split of playing time between the 2.

     

     

     

     

  18. 38 minutes ago, balln said:

    Which is kind of the problem. 

     

    Oh look - elam is in they’re gonna play man’s -

    let’s dial up our offense 

     

    oh look Dane Jackson in- let’s dial up jump balls 


     

    Except they don’t - they have been playing different combinations of man and man zone and switching things off - which is why after they make adjustments teams find it harder to move the ball.  
     

    They have been giving a ton of different looks not based on Elam or Jackson.

     

     

  19. 7 hours ago, Einstein said:

     

    I separated the Bengals game out.

     

    I said if you want to count the Bengals game, then it’s 0 snaps in 3 of the last 5.

     

    But if you don’t (and I don’t blame you for not counting it), then it’s still zero snaps in 2 of the last 4 AND 40~% or less snaps in every game since October.

     

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    I guess that depends up what you are referencing.

     

    Pro Football focus had him at 47 and 48%  of defensive snaps the last 2 games and 43% versus the NYJ in game #1 - so that is at least 3 times since October that he has broken 40% of defensive snaps and the last 2 have been nearly 50%.

     

    He is also alternating with Jackson - 2 series on and 2 series off - so since we had not even completed 2 series versus Cincinnati  - there is no way I would even look at it - even bringing it up is stupid.  Jackson starts as the Veteran and they have been running bland coverages - then they make adjustments and bring Elam in and then switch him out with other adjustments.

     

    Basically against 2 teams that run a bunch and the Bills wanted to run a lot of zone - they pulled him out.  When they wanted more man corners against Miami - he played half the game.

     

    I think you are seeing exactly what the Bills want to do - they are using Jackson, White, and Elam to switch up coverages and make adjustments to get teams out of their game plans.  
     

     

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  20. On 12/26/2022 at 12:38 PM, Beck Water said:

     

    What I keep seeing in my mind's eye, is the day-and-night difference between the OL play when Wilson was under center, vs. that CFL dude - Streveler.

     

    The OL was literally getting pushed back into Wilson's lap on every snap when he was behind center.  Streveler came in, and part of it was he got the ball out quickly and ran himself so the Jags adjusted how they were defending - but there were snaps when he had time back there.

     

    It just highlights to me how much of the game in the trenches is actually mental.  The OL has to believe that if they strain every sinew and use every last gasp of muscle they have, the QB behind them will do Good Things.


     

    I hear what you are saying, but honestly I don’t think that had anything to do with the OL of the Jets changing with a guy they believed in or even a guy that made plays, but was essentially a complete shift in the Jags DL.

     

    Streverler’s first drive - the DL was crashing in just like they did to Wilson, but Streverler escaped the pocket a couple of times and also had a designed run and then the Jags switched up.  They stopped rushing to a spot like they were for Wilson and rushed to contain and keep him in the pocket.  They also stopped bringing extra pressure and played a spy defense.  They were significantly less concerned about the passing game and getting pressure and more concerned with the QB running - so they stopped rushing.

     

    He did make a few nice throws, but it was obvious that he completely lacks the arm strength to play NFL ball.  One pass was like 15-20 yards short and if he had gotten it out there it was a huge play.  

  21. 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

    I’m very interested in seeing a consensus on how Bills fans feel about the way this situation is playing out, and how the league has handled it.

     

    Personally, I’m absolutely fine with the way the NFL, coaches, players, officials, and Goodell has handled this situation, and I am fine with the decision. It probably sucks the most for the Bengals, and it sucks that it basically hands the Chiefs the #1 seed (unless the Raiders pull off a miracle), but rescheduling the Bills v. Bengals game just seemed to untenable. I think the only way to safely reschedule the game would have been to reschedule the playoffs for both conferences. IMO, that would negate the advantage of the first round bye, and even hinder a #1 seed that would go three weeks without playing a game.

     

    I think the solution they have come out with is about as fair as it could be. Thoughts?

     

     


     

    I am fine with 90% of it.  They did exactly what I expected.  
     

    My only real complaint is I think it screwed over Cincinnati to much.

     

    Although I hate it - I would have been all for additional neutral site games of Buffalo/Cincinnati as that game could have gone either way and that impacts everything.

     

    I am glad they followed the rules as laid out and then looked at ways to adjust and I think given the terrible situation- the NFL tried and did an excellent job.

     

    I just feel for Cincinnati a bit right now.  Good guys, Good Coach and took one on the chin for us - just as we did for KC.

     

     

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  22. 6 hours ago, Greg S said:

     

    No, he is deactivated. White is the starter with Flacco the backup. White has been limited all week in practice so they may have to start Joe.


     

    White is out,

     

    Flacco to start with Wilson as his back-up.

     

    White never should of played last weekend with his ribs - terrible job by Salah.

     

     

  23. 1 minute ago, Caesar said:


    I was under the impression the math was done for all teams and the lead was insurmountable regardless of outcomes this Sunday.... of course getting reliable info from any source the last couple of days has been iffy at best.


     

    It has been done up-to this point, but will change with the games this weekend.  It maybe correct that the lead is insurmountable - I have not done the math, but it will change.

     

     

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