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  1. 3 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

    Spurrier once asked a question when he was the Redskins coach that I'd still like an answer to: "If we're paying 53 guys why can't we dress them all on game day?"


     

    That is easy - it was originally put into place to help balance teams rosters with injuries. 
     

    Team A has 4 guys injured, but not on IR - which used to be for the season - and Team B was healthy - then the healthy team would have 4 additional rostered players to play.  By limiting the 53 - it allowed both teams to have 48 rostered healthy players to keep balance and allow the injured players to sit.

     

    Team A could sit 4 injured players and a Healy guy, while team B had to sit 5 healthy guys, but now both teams have the same number that can play with no advantages and no one forcing an injured player to dress - just in case.

     

    It does need to be re-evaluated with the practice squad call-ups and the ability to use of returning IR in season.

     

     

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  2. It would be very interesting if they can get Rodgers on a contract similar to Russ in Pittsburgh and can do the same thing with Adams at WR.  
     

    I think with the NYG OL, Rodgers could have a bit more time.

     

    I do worry that similar to the NYJ - bringing in Rodgers and Adams could set back Nabors like it did with Garrett Wilson and now he wants out.

     

     

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    And what if instead of this stupid thought process that the “fans” have - we look at the fact that Josh seems to really like playing for McD and Beane.

     

    Maybe he has spoken to ownership and stated his preference to play for these guys.

     

    Maybe - he realizes that the last several years he has had the ball at the end of the game with a shot to tie or win and the lack of plays has been on him and the offense.  He is always hardest on himself and that is part of the frustration - the game has been in his hands and they have not come away with the win.

     

    I think he realizes how much of a say he has - he gets input on players that stay and go and draft picks - he stated Coleman was his guy - he thought he would be a great fit and that is the guy they made work.

     

    If he wanted new coaching - he could talk to Terry and would before a change is made, but I believe the exact opposite - I think Josh likes McD and the freedom he gives the team and that helps ground him here.  I also think you are more likely to see Josh leave if we make a change to a coach that doesn’t foster his attitude - someone like Bill Beli and his attitude.  
     

     

     

     

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  4. 38 minutes ago, Gregg said:

     

    Beane deserves his share of the blame as well. He has missed on his picks to much in the early rounds of the draft. The Bills have a good roster but not a great one. We have no "game changers" on defense. Von was supposed to be that guy but the injury and now age have prevented that.


    Everyone complains that McD failure in the playoffs is based upon the defense and then you argue that the bills only have a good roster not a great roster and no “game changers” on defense.

     

    That means that McD must be coaching his butt off to get the second best win % in all of sports over the last 5 years and a top offense and top end defense with only a good roster and no “game changers”.

     

    The fact that year after year the Bills have few to no Pro-Bowl players or all pros and yet McD dominates the division and wins a minimum of 1 playoff game with multiple trips to championship round and the last 2 years has the team in a 3 point game with the ball and a shot to win - tells me what I need to know.  
     

     

     

    36 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

     

    There is definitely a chance a new coach sets them back. It's also just as much of a chance a new coach pushes them over the hump. 


     

    This is completely false.  Most coaches that take over teams become failures.  It is exceedingly rare for a coach to take over a team and suddenly take them over the top.  Especially as they tend to change out coaching staffs and styles - so you begin to see a lot of turnover and people out of position.

     

    it is not unheard of, but the new coach pushing them over the top is a very limited sample size and the failure coaches are numerous- so actually getting better is probably closer to 5-10% chance with a 90-95% chance of the team getting worse.

     

    That should not stop the change, but that mixed with the fact that the team and Allen love coach McD and the team is successful and has done more with a weaker talent base should also be part of the equation.

     

     

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  5. On 1/27/2025 at 3:19 AM, Special K said:

    Even though the Tush Push worked all season long, I thought to myself during the regular season "Maybe the Bills should run it to the right once in a while just to keep Defenses honest.", but since it always worked, I didn't give that concept much thought after a while.

     

    When it was blatantly obvious the Chiefs were ready for the push to the left, it should've been obvious to have a call to change it up and run it to the right. Its not like running it towards Torrence and Brown would be a bad idea anyway. This is something the Bills coaching staff should've been prepared for weeks ago, but they continued to run the same play over and over again despite the fact it was not working like it usually does.

     

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting a different result......that was some insane play calling right there.


     

    Do you ever think maybe - just maybe - there is a reason they go left.  Like maybe the way Josh takes the snap.  It is significantly easier for Josh as a right handed QB to begin to move left as it keeps his primary hand in place to receive the snap.

     

    I think they recognize that trying to go right takes a step longer giving more time for the defense to close the gap.

     

    Left or Right to me isn’t the issue.  The issue is where are the plays off from it.  Where is the fake block and Knox in the endzone for a pass?

     

    I think going right may work sometimes, but my guess is the success rate would be significantly worse than going left for our team.

     

    I think the biggest difference overall is the few extra microseconds it takes on the road for the offensive line to move.  They were a quarter of a step late all night and I think that was the difference in the game.  The crowd doesn’t necessarily mean only false starts as an impact - it also leads to just a minor change in timing and for 2 very evenly matched teams - sometimes that is the difference.

     

     

     

     

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  6. 12 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

    By all accounts , there was never a physical measurement with the sticks on that controversial run.

     

    Wouldn't this have been a perfect scenario for a measurement??


     

    The sticks are there this year mostly for decoration.  
     

    The NFL said prior to the year you would see less measurements because they were using the eagle eye spotting and that is what you got.

     

    Someone above made the spot and deemed it short. 

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  7. On 1/25/2025 at 3:16 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

     

    the defense knows we are going to run and it shows by how tight they stack the box but we make it 99% of the time , do it on 3rd down and 4th down if need be.

     

     


     

    How do we feel about this now? 
     

    KC got stronger playing against it especially when it was obvious.  You don’t think that there was an equally good chance the same thing happens fron 2+ yards out against Baltimore.

     

     

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  8. 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

     

    the defense knows we are going to run and it shows by how tight they stack the box but we make it 99% of the time , do it on 3rd down and 4th down if need be.

     

     


     

    Nope - several times they rush to the line to run the play - preventing the other team from bringing in extra DL.  Additionally, when the other team is not on the goal line - they still have to think about defending the entire field - so they keep LBs and safeties on the field giving the OL a huge advantage.

     

    Down at the goal line after waiting to get the spot - Baltimore had already brought in extra DL.  It was a totally different situation than even earlier when they hustled at the goal line and caught Baltimore with a standard defense and scored.

     

    This is the second time that this happened - the first was Detroit - and neither time where the defense could substitute and get fully ready at the goal line did the Bills run the play.  I think they recognized when it works and when they will have issues and they go to alternate plays.

     

     

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  9. 5 minutes ago, Magox said:


    No one has been able to stop it, I think the Dolphins in one of the games stopped a 3rd and 1 and the Bills proceeded to get it on the 4th and half a yard.

     

    That tush push TD went in easily and could have gone for 3 yards.

    The Bills scored easily on the TD from the 1 yard line.  Not buying that at all


    Until a team proves they can stop it, you continue to go for it.  It is the only play in football where everyone knows it’s coming and knowing that despite that fact and that the Bills have the highest success rate that goes well into the 90% range (along with Philly), you run it until it is stopped 


     

    Disagree - it works because the Bills get them in a front where Josh has a gap.  That is why the move him over - he doesn’t just go forward like Philly did.

     

    The Bills recognize that at some times a team doesn’t have to defend most of the field - they can instead fill gaps - in those cases you do something else.  The bills tried to let them rush to create a gap - it worked, but an extra blitz filled that opening and he got Josh down.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Magox said:

    What I don’t understand is the Bills hesitancy to do the Allen tush push on 3rd and 2’s.  When they run that play they typically get 1-3 yards, I don’t care if it’s ugly boring football it’s effective and they should absolutely be running that play every time when they are on the opponents side of the field.   That’s a couple times now that I believe that play should have been run.   I hope they rethink that


     

    I believe it is a couple of reasons.  The Allen QB sneak works best when they rush up and catch the opponent in a lighter box and have gaps for Allen to hit.  It also works best with less than 1 yard to go.

     

    Down at the goal line because of the time to get the ball spotted - there was time for the defense to bring in extra linemen and with little area to defend - they can bring in a lot of extra beef making it not only harder, but more dangerous for Allen.  Think of the stop by Tennessee at the goal line.

     

    Defending the end zone and defending 1 yard at midfield is very different.   I think the Bills recognize that and respect the difference.

     

    Earlier in the year at the goal line you saw a play like that and Josh went basically outside the tackle to get a gap.

     

    If after the 2nd down run they could have rushed up and tried it - they have more success, but the ball was spotted outside the 2 causing a delay - which changed everything up and stopped momentum.

  11. 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

    Chiefs haven’t scored over 30 all year ,,,

     

    So look to score 31 on Sunday ….

     

    Also …just heard that the last time the Chiefs turned the ball over was against us in November …. yikes ! 
     

     


     

    Yikes - except the Bills had only 1 TO since the KC game - Josh’s 1 Int against NE in the endzone.

     

    So neither team makes mistakes.

     

    It is going to be a long, close, nerve racking game all around.

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  12. 10 hours ago, Man with No Name said:

     

    my understanding is that you can challenge the spot, but you will technically lose because it's not a TD or 1st. They will still fix the spot, but you'll lose your TO. I went back and watched on tv, and I don't think the spot was as bad as most of us thought last night. 

     

    Though I won't commit to that position without seeing video on my computer where I can more effectively slow it down and freeze frame. 


    Agreed and 99% of the time even if it looks to be slightly farther - they don’t change the spot.

     

    The Bills have a former Ref making the calls from above - so I doubt it was much of anything.  I would love to see some replays because I thought he was a bit closer, but man - the Refs really do a pretty good job catching it live when we think he is still up.

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  13. 13 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

    My head explodes when it's 2nd & 1, 3rd & 1, or 4th & 1 and the Bills don't do the Tush Push.  It's darn near automatic and they usually end up getting 2 or 3 yards on the play.  That 4th quarter drive last night where they kicked the late field goal to go up 8 is a great example.  They should have Tush Pushed and they probably are in the end zone and could have saved me the end-of-game angina.

     

    Don't get cute... Just run the Tush Push for the love of Almighty God!!!

     

     

     

    13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    In 1 yard situations, yes. Every time. But the frustrating thing is a lot of these situations we find ourselves in are 2 or 2 plus.

     

    3rd and Goal from just beyond the 2 is not a given we're going to get enough push. Especially at the Goal Line and with that defensive front. In hindsight do I wish we would have tried that instead of what we ran? Sure. But that's just bc we know how it went with the play they chose.

     

    But honestly, from the spot we were at (which was a rough spot btw) - I wouldn't have called a tush push either. Though I wouldn't have called the play we went with either. I'd have went with an under center handoff with Ray Davis.

     

    And if we did go for a Tush Push on 3rd and didn't get in - I'd still have Kicked the FG rather than going for it on 4th anyways. This was the most situational of Situational Football.. situations. Is it possible we got it on 4th and the game was over right there? Sure.

     

    You know what else could have happened? We could have been stopped again. And if that happened - we lose the game. Plain and simple. Simply not worth the risk.


     

    The reason I believe for not running it - is what @BillsFanForever19 says for the most part.  
     

    The QB sneak works best when the Bills immediately run up to the line and can run it without the other team putting their big package in.  The Bills did that in the Ravens game and got the yardage.  It is less effective when the opponent can bring in extra guys to fill all of the gaps.

     

    2nd I think they had decided that the FG was more important than going for a 4th down and risking losing the game with no chance - so they had 1 play from the 2 yard line with Baltimore able to bring in all of their d-line.  
     

    Everything changes if the Bills were up by 8 or less than 4 - then I think McD says we have 2 plays for the TD, but up by 5, 6, or even 7 - the FG to ensure you get another chance on offense was the right call - so you need over 2 yards on 1 play.  I don’t know that is the play I want, but it was not the QB sneak from that spot against that Defense.

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  14. 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    What coaching errors are we pointing to from yesterday? Or in any of these playoff losses? The Ravens honestly should have controlled the game against because of a good gameplan and great 2nd half adjustments. But Harbaugh can't control for his QB and best pass catcher making multiple unforced errors.

     
     

    He chased points all game failing on multiple 2 pt conversions.  
     

    He allowed the Ravens in critical situations to go away from Henry and try to score via the pass - see the 2pt plays and the FG drive. 
     

    It is not totally on Harbaugh - just as it is rarely on McD, but the buck stops with the coach and he didn’t do enough to put them in position to win and the players couldn’t pull it through.

     

    It was 2 very evenly matched teams and one forced the other into several mistakes and that is without people acknowledging the 3rd fumble caused by Cam Lewis on the last drive that lucky for Baltimore happened to fall into the WR hands on the ground or the Bills force a 4th TO.

     

    The Bills were obviously coached up this week especially with the weather to attack the ball and it worked.

     

     

  15. 8 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:


    I always think it’s funny how turnovers are treated like they’re just a random thing that happens instead of the result of skill and decision making.

     

    Lamar’s INT was an ill advised throw with even worse execution.  On the fumble he tried being heroic instead of going to the ground.  Bernard made one of the better punches at a ball that I’ve seen.  


     

    Not only that - Cam Lewis forced a fumble on the final drive also - the Ravens just got lucky the fumble landed back in the receivers hands on the ground.

     

    The Bills knew that they were not bigger, but they are superbly coached and very disciplined and that lead to the victory.

     

    The Bills have been playing like that all year - we are going to march down the field and get points and make few mistakes - their opponents can’t do the same - they make a mistake and that gets magnified in the playoffs.

     

    Great job to the staff they outcoached and outplayed the opposing team once again.

    8 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

    Question: if Ty didn’t rip off that first down on the last drive, I assume the ravens might have gotten the ball back if they held us? Did anyone do the math on the clock? 


     

    Yes that is why they had to run the ball instead of kneeling down.  They could of used approximately 85 of the 93 seconds on offense without the first down.

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  16. 15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

    I think the Chargers and Broncos are a factor to upset the top 4 just because they will start to take wins away in the regular season, that will affect final standings.  I don't think either will dethrone the Chiefs from winning the division, but I think those extra losses for the Chiefs (coupled with the fact that there's no way they will get this lucky again with all their last second victories), and the one seed will be much more up for grabs


     

     

    It could be the Chargers and Broncos become factors, but I really see them more like Miami and NE from a couple of years ago.

     

    The Chargers and Dolphins seem nearly a match with the ability to look great, but man do they find ways to lose big games.  It has been multiple coaches and rosters, but I just think Herbert does not have enough to lead his team to big wins.

     

    The Broncos remind me of Mac Jones rookie NE team - where everyone thought he was going to become elite and then teams got a handle on him and it was gone.  I think perhaps Bo has a chance to continue, but I would not be the least bit surprised to see them move back a few steps.

     

    I could be wrong, but I still feel they have a long way to go have significant impact.

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  17. 15 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

    That was one hell of a hi-point catch and I couldn't believe he held onto it through his head squarely smashing off the ground with his whole body weight coming down on it. He noticeably stayed down for a second or 2 wincing in pain.  In my opinion claiming there's a personal matter  being dealt with is the Bills way of giving him rest/time to recover from smashing his noggin and getting concussed without the risk of the league not passing him on a physical to play Sunday. Watch that catch again and explain to me how he didn't ring his bell badly............

    With that said go bills and let's March to the Superbowl, the winter soldier will take no prisoners!!!


     

    I don’t disagree with he was sore on the play - saw it and agree.

     

    I don’t think the Bills are actively flaunting the rules and risking getting fined or losing draft picks by not putting him in protocol with a head injury.

     

    Since he had a back injury designation last week - I could see that, but I highly doubt they call it a personal matter as that would be highly suspicious if the NFL finds out they are hiding an injury.

     

     

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  18. 10 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

    I didn’t get it right but I told you guys earlier they’ll lump the AFC early and the NFC late. 
     

    Only thing I hate is that the ravens get to play the day before us. They didn’t screw the other 2 seed (eagles) like that 


     

    As you know - I totally disagree that we are in any way screwed by this playoff schedule.

     

    There is only 1 game for each division that determines all of the other games for the next weekend and that is the #2 versus #7 game.

     

    The Bills are actually the beneficiary with the schedule.  Based upon the 2 Saturday games - they know exactly who they will be playing and their team can get ahead of it based upon the outcomes.

     

    The winners on Sat still won’t know for sure until around 4pm on Sunday who they play.  For example if Baltimore and Houston win - Baltimore may be planning on Buffalo and Houston on KC, but an upset by Denver changes the game to Baltimore/Houston.  
     

    Whereas if Baltimore wins - that is the only team we can play and we can begin getting ready.  We either face Baltimore or are done in that case.

     

    The extra rest is totally overblown as their game is late Saturday night and they have to travel - so basically the overall time is nearly identical.

     

    It is exactly the same schedule as last year and most likely only the division changes as we move forward as it seems to work fine as long as the stadiums are free.

     


     

     

  19. 42 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

    I think Mike White has been elevated three times already, but then declared inactive each time. 

     

    Doesn't he have to be brought up to the active roster to be active this week?

     

    He was listed as inactive vs. 49ers, Lions, Patriots

     

    Thoughts?


     

    I only see 2 so far 49ers and Lions.

     

    The Pats this week would be 3, but then it resets for the playoffs to unlimited.

     

    So if they want to elevate him - it should be fine.

     

     

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  20. 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Of course they are. Franchise QB always  matters more than anything else. That isn't revelationary. It's just fact. But that doesn't get you to where you think it does on coaching.


     

    Totally agree - you have franchise QBs where the expectations are SB, but with poor coaching - you get Cincinnati of this year on the outside looking in.  
     

     

  21. 21 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

    My takeaway, is Josh Allen = playoffs expectations.

     

    Void of nearly everything else.

     

    Is it possible to still not make the playoffs with a top 10 performing QBR? Sure. Rare, but it happens. Even more rare when that QB crosses 70 QBR. Even more so when you look at the declining number of players hitting these levels recently. Only 2 players even above 65 last year and 3 players the year prior.

     

    I have long made the argument that this franchises success and stability are from Allen more than anything else and I would triple down on that thought process   


     

    That is only if you believe that McD has not influenced that.  
     

    McD as a coach talking with Josh and working with him and the OC to not only come up with plans, but what to work on and plans for growth have allowed Josh to develop.

     

    Without the success and stability of a head coach, you get Aaron Rodgers of 2024 and NYJ Sam Darnold versus Minnesota Sam Darnold.  You get the Bears blowing multiple high draft pick QBs not because of talent, but the change and lack of stability cause the QB failure.

     

    Josh is Josh because McD allowed him to grow and foster.  
     

    My belief is that Josh’s success is a direct reflection of his relationship with Beane and McD and their trust and attitude in how to build a franchise allowed Josh to grow and become a star and you do not get one without the other.

     

     

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  22. 2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

    They must really like Grable. They could have easily given him the red shirt treatment especially with RVD already on the roster as a steady backup, but they made it a point to activate him.


     

    I feel like the was the plan and then Brown got the stinger/shoulder and I think they want the safety of an extra tackle for the playoff run.

     

    I don’t think Brown will miss time, but now you have that potential for aggravation and missing snaps.  Plus gives them depth for resting people week 18 and get the youth some playing time.

     

     

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  23. 2 hours ago, Beast said:

    Because he got hurt and the team went in a different direction out of necessity…..and that direction worked.

     

    ***** happens and I have a feeling the Samuel book is yet to be closed.


     

    Totally agree and unfortunately he right now keeps getting nicked up when he gets a shot.

     

    Had a turf toe, ankle, foot, shoulder, etc.  I think it has been a snake bitten year.

     

    i expect given a healthy, but short offseason - they can revisit the stuff we saw in training camp before his first injury.

  24. 3 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

    The thing that totallly screwed the Lion’s strategy was a great play by Hollins. I assume Campbell thought worst case scenario was Bills’ ball on Lion’s 45 yard line.  Hold Bills without a first down  (unlikely), Bills punt. Hold them to a field goal (with Bills burning significantly less time off the clock than if you kicked deep) and Lions win with two TD’s.  Again, risky but not totally moronic.


     

    Totally disagree.  The Bills like the Lions are very aggressive once you get passed the 50.  
     

    The onside kick makes it more likely the Bills are aggressive and have 4 downs to get a first down.  A full kick-off put the Bills on their side of mid field and they need 2+ first downs to get passed the 50.  The Lions were significantly more likely to get a potential stop at the 12 minute mark with a full kickoff rather than the onside kick.

     

    The onside kick failed and allowed the Bills a TD and then the Lions were back down as if their last drive did not happen.  When they kicked deep they held the Bills to a FG (somewhat asterisked), but it actually allowed them to get closer rather than the onside kick.

     

    I can understand wanting to on-side, but how he handled the next kick-off tells you that he recognized it was the wrong call or he would of done it again.

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