harmonkillebrew
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Samuel is really here for the WR screen game. Brady tried that a lot last year with Diggs and Davis. Samuel should excel at it, but the timing has been off. Josh double clutched on multiple attempts last game b/c of upfield pressure.
But otherwise, Samuel is not a very good route runner. He doesn't have a feel for underneath zones like a good slot guy. He runs and then turns around, doesn't move with the QB and the gaps in the zones.
I agree though that with his speed, they should be able to find more creative ways to get him in space downfield, in addition to the screen game.
The timing is all off with him and Josh and Brady
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1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:
There were so many on this board pounding the table for DK. They were all right about that one. DK should have been the pick
Yup. Don't even get me started on where we'd be with Josh and DK. Chalk another one up for the masses. It's amazing sometimes how bad the NFL scouts are versus NFL fans, with half the knowledge. Might as well crowd source your picks rather than pay personnel departments.
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you can see that Allen has no trust in his WRs. He's tentative and not making throws he would make if Diggs were on the other end.
I could also see on each of those throws that were highlighted how Josh was also probably being extra safe with CBs or S that might come off their man to make a play. He just had no faith or conviction in the game plan. He was totally lost.
He also has always had a maddening tendency to miss deep touch passes. You saw that with the Hollins overthrow (although a good WR would have caught it) and the Kincaid underthrow. Placement was just off.
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Fault for what?
End of the game fiascos, coaching to lose = McDermott
But he runs a good locker room and is a good defensive coach.
Failing to build a winning team around a generational talent at QB = Beane
So I blame them both
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I appreciate the concept of 12 personnel, but you have to throw it to Knox occasionally. They got him a few nice looks the first game, but nothing schemed for him since, it seems. I don't know what's going to with Brady's O, but teams seemed to have figured it out quickly. Josh does not look comfortable, especially when the pressure comes.
Trading up for Kincaid (giving up a 4th) after Knox had just signed that extension seems like a mistake in hindsight. They could have gotten a guy like Josh Downs later, as a better underneath option
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I have NO trust in them.
They continually overdraft some positions, under draft others. Make poor decisions and then let draft picks go that shine with other teams.
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As many of us predicted, the lack of outside WRs that can win one-on-ones shrinks the field to in-between the hashes. Teams are flooding with short zone coverages as there is no real vertical or outside threat. It only took 3 weeks of tape for teams to figure out how to stop our O. Brady needs to adapt, and we need that outside WR that everyone was craving
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6 minutes ago, BlazinBill said:
No way after this week do we not make a move for someone....
Right??...
hah!
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this week is pretty critical to show the Bills can get past the blueprint the Ravens just showed the league.
Also, to show their mental toughness.
If they respond against a good Texans team than I'll give them 13 wins. But if they have another dud on the road, the season could go south fast.
That said, I still think they run the AFCE. The division looks horrible
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I mean, WTF are they waiting for? Micah should have been starting next to Rapp from Day 1, when it was clear Cole wasn't ready.
Going with Hamlin is a nice story and all, but not a plan for winning
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10 hours ago, Cray51 said:
Completely agree. The moment we went heavy with Morrow, Hill abused him. There wasn't a solution with the talent we had on the field. This is where a heavy concept with Williams/Milano/Bernard looks a lot different than Morrow/Spector/Williams. I dont know that we could have held the Ravens below 28 points even executing our gameplan well.
What did they start doing in the second half because it seemed to work relatively well?
From what I saw they crowded the box with Safeties and had more penetration by LBs
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Upon reflection, the Offense is more my concern.
10 measly points, little momentum.
The O had no excuse of missing personnel. They just were exposed by a good D as being the shaky unit we were all scared of after the offseason.
Baltimore has very good LBs and S and a strong Dline. We got away from the run too much too soon, But they took away our short passing game and that's all we have.
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I mean, this was the big question heading into the season, could Josh lift everyone up? Did he need elite playmakers or would he suffice with good role players surrounding him. So far he has shown it. Him and Brady are getting the most out of a diverse set of role players and a solid Oline. Man, I hope it continues.
Right now we're the highest scoring O in the league. Use that dead cap next year to fortify the D, but we seem set on O.
I never thought I'd be saying this, three weeks in....
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I don't know if McDermott teams always come prepared for game 1. They laid an egg at the Jets last year. Stunk against the Steelers in 2021. That's what I was kind of holding on to during that crappy 1st half. Credits to the team and staff for turning it around in 2nd half, although that kick return felt like another classic Bills pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Cardinals were a 4-win team last year, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
The Defense looks like a work in progress, but the spread the ball around offense and the new Oline had a good debut.
And of course, Josh is still a beast. He single handedly wins games for this team week in and out.
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I'm not sure how Miami got better. They're basically the same Offense, which McDermott owns, and a worse defense.
The Jets are praying that 40 yr old Rodgers can save them, but will he make that much of a difference for a team that missed the playoffs entirely?
I think its still the Bills division to lose and everyone is just hoping we regress.
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that's a surprise. He's definitely an upgrade over MVS and probably Hollins.
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18 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:
While I definitely get what you’re saying, McD and Beane not doing enough can be overblown.
After the 2018 dumpster fire of WRs, they got John Brown and Beasley. When that wasn’t enough they got Diggs and drafted Gabe Davis.
After the 2021 playoffs, most were convinced that Davis was a great #2 to Diggs. Once it was apparent that they’re could be some tension with Diggs and Davis possibly wasn’t #2 material after the 2022 season, they got Dalton Kincaid. And this year they got Keon Coleman
Now granted, they could’ve drafted another WR this past draft, but one could argue that there were many other holes to fill this year with the veteran exodus. That may have not been the right move but I think some can at least see that it wasn’t irrational to try and fill out the roster since the veterans left.
Go Bills!
Another GM and coach would have traded for Ayiuk or Davante Adams by now.
The Diggs investment paid immediate dividends for Josh. But after never finding a legitimate #2 (Gabe was a 4th round pick), they are now back to shopping the bargain bin for WRs, hoping Josh wills the offense to win.
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6 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
I don’t mean to pick on you, but I’m honestly sick of everyone saying we need to fix our perceived issues at WR by acquiring someone from another organization. Honestly that’s all Beane has done for most part except Davis. Diggs, Saunders, Crowder, Brown, Beasley, Samuel, McKenzie, Sherfield Hollins, MVS, Harty etc… Sometimes it worked great (Diggs, Beasley) and sometimes it didn’t, but it’s not a sustainable team building model. Just look at how hard it's been during this camp to get quality WR depth when you’re hiring castoffs from other organizations.
Investing and developing our own skill players has been long overdue. It saves significant cap space and helps the team grow together. Cook, Shakir, Kincaid, and Coleman have all been drafted in the last 3 years and our team is the better for it. Coleman is actually the 1st top 64 pick Beane has used on a WR during his tenure.I just wish Beane had drafted a 2nd WR in this past draft.
More to the point, it's time to give Shakir his shot at being the top WR threat. His numbers last year, his first year really utilized in the offense, is very reminiscent of Diggs’s rookie season, except Shakir caught everything thrown his way and was more explosive.
Shakir 39/45 611 15.7 2TDs 86.7% Success% 73.3%
Diggs 52/84 720 13.8 4TDs 61.9% Success% 46.6%
We don’t need Aiyuk, or Dotson or ________ . We need to continue the draft and develop path. I look at GB and love what they are building with Love at QB. In 2022 & 2023 they drafted 4 WRs and 2 TEs; some with premium picks and some with middle round picks, but all given an opportunity and all are contributing. It past time we did the same and Cook, Shakir, Coleman and Kincaid are a very good start, but they are not enough.I'd agree if we had actually drafted many WRs. They invested a 4th in Gabe Davis and seem to have gotten lucky with Shakir in the 5th.
Certainly need to give Coleman time, but I'd rather ease him in than throw him to the wolves year 1 with so much riding on his ability to quickly take on the NFL game.
Besides Diggs, the Bills have largely chosen for the most part to target bargain or mid-value WRs in FA. It would be nice to see them give Allen another weapon, but it's probably not happening. It's just not in McBeane's DNA.
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No. We need a #1 WR, not a #3 and not for that price.
Trade for Davante Adams or Ayiuk. That's about all that's left.
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Wider point is that Beane and McD seem to undervalue WRs compared to other top teams. The Bills draft capital investment has been skewed toward DE.
Is that right strategy? Hasn't gotten us to the SB or even AFCC, except once.
Despite it, they again this past year they subtracted more than they added.
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6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Nah. Not so.
You said, "They should have been drafting one in almost every draft in days 1 and 2," and actually nobody does that.
The Bills have used a first (Diggs) and traded another 1st back to a very early second (Keon) and a 2nd for Zay Jones in 2017.
The Chiefs used a 1st in 2019 for Mecole, a 1st for Worthy this year and a 2nd for Skyy Moore in 2022, and that also goes all the way back to 2017.
Pretending those are more than very slightly different is flat-out ridiculous.
The Bengals used a 2024 3rd for Jermaine Burton, a 2021 1st for Chase, a 2020 2nd for Higgins and a 2017 1st for John Ross. That's a difference, basically, of one 3rd rounder more, in eight years of drafting. The difference is that they sucked and so had a 5 pick to use on Chase. #5s are more likely to be dominant than the late rounders.
The Eagles? A 1st in 2021 (DeVonta) and 2020 (Raegor), a 3rd in 2019 (Arcega-Whiteside). That's it since 2017. Again, extremely comparable to the Bills.
9ers? A 2024 1st in Pearsall, a 2023 3rd (Danny Gray), a 2020 1st in Aiyuk and a 2019 2nd in Deebo and 3rd in Jalen Hurd. And a 2018 2nd in Dante Pettis. That's more than the Bills.
The Bills thought they had Diggs again this year. When they didn't, guess what, they targeted an early WR. This is how teams work, they look at what they need, and they hope for needs to meet what's available when they pick, and sometimes that happens and sometimes it doesn't.
When you only look at two or three years you're deeply bending what you're looking at, because of a low sample size.
You missed out on the Eagles, they traded a 1st (and 4th?) for AJ Brown
You also have to compare the decisions teams made despite already having talent at WR.
Bengals had Boyd and Higgins and still drafted Chase.
Chiefs had Tyreek Hill and Kelce and still drafted Hardman.
Niners got Pearsall on top of Aiyuk and Deebo.
Meanwhile Bills didn't draft a WR until Keon, but after they already got rid of Diggs (and Davis)
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I'm not sure MVS makes the squad at this point. Claypool is gone. Coleman looks lost/ineffective.
So far Hollins is the only signing besides Samuel that is making a decent contribution. And that's not exactly comforting.
Dare we look at the trade market a little more in earnest??
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I guess Curtis Samuel sat out the last game, so that's why we got a lot of Keon, Hollins and Shakir 3 WR looks.
But in 12 personnel and in normal 3 WR sets, who do we expect to be out there?
12 - Kincaid, Knox, Samuel and ... Shakir?
3 WRs - Does Hollins start with Samuel and Shakir? or is Keon in their with Hollins with only one of the slot guys at a time?
I can't say I've seen a lot of Samuel and Shakir on the field at the same time but they seem to be our best WRs, by far. Has Samuel been playing Z?
I still find it hard to believe that Hollins is leading the competition for the X role, even if Keon will eventually replace him.
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3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Brandon beane doesn't belong on this list, because if you can't nail top two round picks regularly, what's the point?
That's how you end up with a "good" roster that lacks game changing talent.
Otherwise, this is a decent enough list
I will say, however, it seems he knows how to draft and find tight ends, which is a plot twist
Agree.
The Coleman trade down selection is not looking great so far, coupled with refusing to add a real FA replacement
Where's Cole Bishop?
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Bishop was a liability against Houston in the first half. He blew so many plays. But I thought he settled down in the 2nd half and should have been given an opportunity against NYJ. But I guess the Bills see Hamlin as more the FS/Micah Hyde role and Rapp as Poyer. And Rapp at this point is much better than Cole