Buffarukus
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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Ahh, but my United Blue States has a liberal immigration policy. I will fly my drywallers and plumbers and landscapers right over your United Red States to do that stuff for me. I'll give them temporary Blue Cards.
You and your Red State friends will have no homes to drywall or plumb and no lawns to cut and edge. You will have to form a migrant caravan in Tennessee and create an encampment under that famous crumbling bridge between Kentucky and Ohio to beg us to let you in.
flying immigrants in continuously kills the enviroment. only private jets for the powerful are allowed over there.
temporary card? lol no they are registered voters now. wouldn't want to jim crow 3.0 fellow human beings. asserting that immigrants will come at your beck and call to do all your manual labor for you? thats racist. your privlage is showing. i don't think you will last long in woketopia with that attitude. im sure there will be a CHAZ for the cancelled for reeducation.
by the way, republicans are against ILLEGAL immigration. people seeking to work hard and go through the proper channels are welcome. so it will be fun to watch what happens when unlimited illegal immigrants, all not required to be vaxed mind you, are piled in your half. dont go back to the patriarchy and turn anyone away. thats racis, you get the drift.
but dont worry. if you want ill get you a temporary red card so you can enjoy a day without a riot. after you finish my landscaping. 🙂
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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Well, as a starting point it really wouldn't hurt to RTFA.
a little difficult when the page gets coved with a authorization for cookies that i didnt want to agree to. so i gave a overview of the topic. maybe you could not be snarky and give a quote or two you find relavent to the discussion. or not.
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38 minutes ago, TSOL said:
I use duck duck go so i figure im pretty good
the duck has been compromised. i repeat! we must revert to AOL.
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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Yep. Here is why.
They know we are embarrassingly doing this over a flu that's probably 5x as lethal (but not to young and healthy people) as regular flu..
The goal posts have moved to permanent pandemic while they have the media and vaccinated blaming "the unvaccinated." Because new variants! Monster variants! You can still spread it! Omg!! You don't have to go to a hockey game!!!
Just let that rhetoric sink in for 2 seconds and then reflect on human history. They know it's overkill and overreach.
That's why they are going full Nazi and using the private sector via threats and coercion to force the vaccine so big pharma can profit and they can expand the regulatory state to places you can't even imagine.......I mean I'm sorry, for the public health.
well im a critical thinker so ill present a counter argument. ive already presented why people would be skeptical but let me ask this. people are worried about long term effects of a vaccine, and i understand but the same argument could be made for long term effects of covid. so both are risks. one is a science done in labs that at least had trials while the other is some Frankenstein s### that accidentally got out of a lab. if the notion is you will eventually get it then which long term problem would you choose if any exist?
my big issue is why are they FORCING certain people to take on both regardless of the science they love to tout.
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1 minute ago, TSOL said:
I am super suspicious of the government trying to keep track of everybody. I find it creepy, i feel like it leads to a dangerous "watchdog" precedent for the future
well let me alleviate that fear. they already got you. snowden is a refugee for exposing all the data collected and the white house/ politicians directly working with social media/ corporations is just more info that it is already taking place.
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39 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
We should celebrate science and innovation, not be scared of it.
yeah when you censor normal discord on a topic and ignore continued information like how natural immunity is much better then a vaccine so a huge portion of the population should be exempt from any mandate...any celebration of that science going on? sill wonder why people would be skeptical/scared? its more agenda based and less fact. this after a year and of half of flip flopping regulations, flat out lies, and cover ups.
yet half the population can't understand why there is skepticism from the other half or demanding answers that could help clear alot of things up. just a shut up and do what your told by way of threats.
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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Meh. They did this plenty last season and it worked.
I’ll say it again, the Bills lost because Josh Allen, Daboll and the offense were *****…. That falls on McD as well.
yeah but josh was clearly struggling, hopefully shaking off rust. we chose a punter who is very good with his accuracy over power and our D was doing very good holding pitts run game. bass has been really good from long range to be given a shot.
all this should dictate what you decide to do. if your a coach and you see your "O were *****" then let other elements of the team that were not make the plays.
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run d looks vastly improved.
oliver seems to be ready to break out this season. a really good game from him.
defense as a whole stepped up. a penalty and blocked punt were the game changers. pass rush was no where where id like to see it with the philosophy we are using of heavy rotation and huge stable but it is very young and the first game. i saw alot of uncalled holds that were far more apparent then a few we were called on. ill give them a pass.
mckenzie seems like a solid returner and glad he actually will contribute on O not just a spot for return alone. bass is continuously reliable will be a great for years to come and i really see the advantage of haak accuracy over bojos power now.
bad
its looking like the fans concerns about the coaches failing to address any upgrades to the interior lines for run blocking or backs are valid.
once again we are choosing to be one dimensional pass all day offense do to the runs ineffectiveness. the entire O will rest in joshes hands to the point we will ask he also be our power back. if so COVER THE BALL WHILE RUSHING! if he has a bad game throwing there is no alternative to pick up yardage, control clock which will put alot of pressure on the D. defenses will play pass only. pin their ears back all game, which may make the line look worse then it is..not sure. not even sure why josh uses play action on alot of plays. it scares noone. with the entire D playing pass we still relied on josh for all our yardage. the book is out on this from last year so hopefully they rethink it will be as successful and gadget plays will not change our lack of running ability. the fact moss was a healthy scratch is strange to say the least.
more to say but those are the main points i saw.
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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Sorry guys that was DPI. Correct call.
why was it not called on the exact same play where he caught it?
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so i guess the plan was to use our qb as a power back. if that's the plan they should start constant fumble drills with josh because he STILL holds it like a loaf of bread every time. it is frightening to watch both injury and turnover wise.
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47 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Show me where I said it can't quickly change? Find another straw man.
straw man? you were saying thats there, not here. me suggesting it could quickly change was "hypotheticals". hypotheticals that instantly became closer to reality.
whatever that wasn't the basis of the topic just a side point but i think its about time people understand that there will be nothing about going back to "normal" to get comfortable with. you seem to suggest if its not here then its not worth talking about. is it ok to say they are already identifying variants and suggesting it is vax resistant. just as quickly this can be full blown lockdown again and maybe far worse. people already conditioned to blame the "unvaxed" can be the scapegoats to why vaxes no longer work
this isnt a i win the debate. its a wow that was fast and we better get prepared if it goes further just as quickly.
dont be so defensive.
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On 9/7/2021 at 12:38 AM, Doc Brown said:
Buffalo isn't NYC and you're talking pure hypotheticals. We've gained in population over the last decade. We weren't the epicenter of the initial Covid outbreak in the US. The Covid restrictions put in place and currently in place here don't differ much from most of the country. Same goes for vaccine mandates from employers. Teachers aren't required to be vaccinated. You also seem to be in your own bubble on how you view the public at large. Public opinion is pretty split on whether the government is doing too much, the right amount, or too little when it comes to handling Covid.
Quotei specifically said NYC. buffalo is a part of the state. with a flick of the wrist the govenor can make it statewide and mandates have been in descussions federally for a long time. this deep into the pandemic and you think if mandates arent happening right here and now that cannot quickly change. buffalo will not be ordered to adopt a sudo lockdown for the unvaxed that NYC has?
that didnt take long.
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8 hours ago, B-Man said:
Hell, I won't shoot anyone for $250/month
You save $50 right there -- liberal logic
i havent shot anyone in s looong time. i want backpay with interest.
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46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Buffalo isn't NYC and you're talking pure hypotheticals. We've gained in population over the last decade. We weren't the epicenter of the initial Covid outbreak in the US. The Covid restrictions put in place and currently in place here don't differ much from most of the country. Same goes for vaccine mandates from employers. Teachers aren't required to be vaccinated. You also seem to be in your own bubble on how you view the public at large. Public opinion is pretty split on whether the government is doing too much, the right amount, or too little when it comes to handling Covid.
id say the percentages of the vax in NYC pops my bubble. how can anyone who is unvaxed think the gov is doing just enough or to little? that is a clear indicator that over 30% is not interested in the gov or anyone "saving" them. im pretty sure they are not happy about being punished for that decision, but i have not spoken to them. call it conjecture but im not sure why. the % that only took 1 dose even though they were told 2 will save them i can make assumptions and opinions on. so ill give you that but they to are being punished.
at the end of the day your saying im making alot of hypotheticals simply because as of today, right now, in buffalo, your right. removing the very recent history of what's happened and saying with any kind of certainty it won't again is optimistic. that's as far as I'd go.
44 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:I’d like to believe that, but all the evidence tells me that most people in this area aren’t smart. They vote for dogma over themselves. Freedom is too scary to them. They prefer that they ( and everyone else) be TOLD what they must do.
i dont know. people were told do these exact steps and everything will go back to normal. they did them and now are being told thanks for following orders now strap the mask on and continue to distance. you see all those that did not follow us, yeah act like them. i think your right but there are ALOT that have had enough and are no longer in that group, especially parents.
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3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
That's not happening in Buffalo. School is full in person learning starting this Wednesday. You can go basically wherever you want without a mask. The Bills game won't require proof of vaccination. WTF are you talking about?
i specifically said NYC. buffalo is a part of the state. with a flick of the wrist the govenor can make it statewide and mandates have been in descussions federally for a long time. this deep into the pandemic and you think if mandates arent happening right here and now that cannot quickly change. buffalo will not be ordered to adopt a sudo lockdown for the unvaxed that NYC has?
so 56% of NY city is fully vaccinated. 64% is one dose. the rest are subject to what i said... excluded from many things in society and at risk of losing their jobs depending if they are state workers, and probably VERY interested in voting for some one else. seeing as some of the 64% are also subject and being fully doesnt mean you nec agree with the mandates, that's enough to flip a election my friend. seeing as its happening in cali before a election is even scheduled shows they arent fing around with this stuff.
side note. NO MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS at this time from what I'm aware. have a med reason you can't get vaxed..oh well, you can watch through the window with the rest of the uncomplaint.
side note #2. austrailia is building camps for the unvaxed that wont be finished until 2022. they seem to be fully expecting the unvaxed scourge to be problematic well into the future..and they are preping now to deal with it 🤔
teachers unions are fighting against it. hospital workers are fighting against it. 1 poke does not cut it for them. buisnesses that have scrapped by have to ask for papers or turn away customers. fines are being given. but not in buffalo, right now. if it did and a R was on the ticket for for mayor saying no to all of this, id say its foolosh to count them out.
by the way this discussion isn't based soley on liberals and lockdowns. just as many independents could see the lack of mandates in florida ect as putting the public at risk and be open to voting thier leaders out. seeing as florida is gaining population while NY is losing it i think its more likely people prefer freedom of choice on this subject though.
if you need links to anything ive said let me know.
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3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
This isn't the mid 90's and even then Guiliani leaned left on social issues (gun control, affirmative action, gay rights, etc.). Crime is up but nowhere near where it was then. If we were still in strict lockdown then it's possible a more conservative candidate that leaned left on social issues could win. I just don't see it at this point though. Georgia was unique in that Trump kept conservatives home because he convinced enough people that the results couldn't be trusted.
"If we were still in strict lockdown then it's possible a more conservative candidate that leaned left on social issues could win"
ive explained how certain people (the unvaxed) are being put on a strict lockdown and liberals seem to be inching further in that direction. if your a dem, and your official is saying you cant travel, go out, put your children in school, work, service customers ect ect ect then i dont care what your political side is..you will not vote that direction. its happening in NYC so there is a large portion of people that are not republican in any way that would vote for somthing THAT IS NOT THAT. thats a door wide open for "outsiders" to step in.
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38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
That's all that really matters at this point. Look at the zip code breakdown in the city of Buffalo for those that voted Democrat and Republican in this last election. Most voted for Biden above an 80% clip. You have to go to South Buffalo just to find areas that Biden didn't win by more than 10 points. You're incredibly naive not to think the only person that can beat Walton is known as a moderate democrat.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/2020-election-map.html
yeah i understand but its not naive to say that the only choices that could win are democrat and democrat light. i dont think any major city will necessarily vote red that is entrenched in blue as its the polar opposite of what they are but a left leaning libertarian, a independent that is a mix taking the good of each side and tossing the controversial topics. new york was won by republican in the past. they just elected a mayor that supports law enforcement as both the mayor and gov were "giving the people what they want" and advocating defunding ect. democrats won georgia when all polling said they only had a chance to win one but NO WAY 2 seats.
the rules of the game have changed since covid for the examples i stated. it will only get worse if peoples only choice for a change is just a far more radical version of what hasn't been working. both sides sliding farther from anything that could be considered compromising. true alternatives may lose and i may be naive but you have 100% of losing a race you never run in.
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12 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
Do you live in Buffalo? Just curious.
born and bred, most my family as well.
may not for much longer. NY state is crushing the company i work for. the attendance issues with fmla, pla alone has shut depts down before covid and it obv worse now. the fix as usual is to punish the workers that are showing up by forcing mandatory overtime which is burning people out and having them figure out how they too have a problems that qualify for state approved time off work.
i get up to go to work everyday to see lines of cars that dont move from there spot all week. get to work and have to cover call offs. look at my check where they take close to half to pay for it all and only signs that its going to get worse. its unsustainable. can't say im following walton closely but im betting shes all for the continuation or exacerbation of policies that are ripe for abuse at the expense of the working class.
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3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
They don't want to play spoiler. If a large number of Republicans, moderate Democrats, and Independents show up Brown should win as the local media will hype this race. California is different has the odd recall thing where Elder could theoretically win with about 25% of the votes.
i understand what your saying tactically.
i just think its odd that there are clear signals that people want a difference. alot of them will take anything at this point. maybe im way off but biden plummeting in polls means its not biased anger. it means dems are going independent. they wanted normalcy and solutions and the people and parties cemented are not offering much but the same. still there is no desire for alternate parties to test the water at all? libertarians should be making huge gains at this point in history as minorities clearly want choice with the vaccine, should get good support there. EVERYONE is growing tired of what seems like arbitrary authoritarian overreach at this point. exhausted from the damn culture war embedded in every facet of life.
if im a working parent im picking the candidate regardless of party that will open schools so i can make a living to survive. if im a law abiding citizen i dont want to hear another word about bail reform or "healing" the problem of crime. its skyrocketing and i want my kids safe when they are outside my house ect ect ect. i think most people dont follow politics closely and a decent number of votes are this persons name is different then the one that is causing this CHECK.
if this situation doesnt motivate alternative parties then nothing will. this is the best shot they have.
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1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:
I have it on good authority that we are talking him into coming back for the playoffs and Super Bowl. Just gotta hit a trade before the deadline, preferably one that includes McCaffrey!
my authority whispered that we are blowing the dust off the mark kelso helmet and luke knows that will allow him to return to greatness for another ten years without fear of another concussion.
it did not fit mitch morse anyways.
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25 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:
Elementary my dear Watson!
terrable call! well glad we didnt listen cause that early retirement would have really screwed us. bills had the foresight to not put us in that horrable position of desperately looking for a replacement. lol
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7 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:
Must be nice to be able to make posts slobbing all over Joshy
Yes, he is obviously GOAT at everything, best passing QB and best rushing QB! Also best looking...
are you the same guy from the old board who was coo coo for kuechly?
😏😍😍😍😍
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1 hour ago, RiotAct said:
We thinking there’ll be some riots if Byron pulls off the victory?
i live in the city and see alot of signs for byron in front of houses so i dont think so. he got lazy and nobody even knew she was running let alone win. thats on him but they know now.
pretty odd that i havent heard anyone else throwing thier hat in the ring. i mean its not looking to bad for larry elders in a deep blue state. guess the city is so garbage power isnt even attractive.
its 2021 so a mostly peaceful fire may engulf the city in the end but no real signs of that type of tension from what i see.
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1 minute ago, SDS said:
I don’t think anything I had written above suggests heavy-handed moderation. I also don’t think anyone not involved here would willingly come here to be a moderator.i dont think the original intent is ever that but in a day and age some consider words violence and opposing viewpoints are considered propaganda it can quickly get there with the wrong moderator. its happening all over the place.
just my two cents. im obv not on here enough to see everything that goes on.
best bet imo. 3 libertarians! 👍
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by Buffarukus
you site data in your post but then "hope" he will be ok? the data is showing that not only will he be ok but he will be with much better immunity then anyone who was only vaxed. the issue is why are the studies not being the number one priority since they are threatening to shun people from society? you get data THEN mandate if neccessary, not the other way around.
i replied to this coming together argument with you before and you still only see it from your side. SC laid out a perfectly logical reasoning for his decision and where we should have "come together" is when our government became authoritarian. when clear knowledge that box stores were allowed to jam people in them while small stores were shut down even as they followed every single protocol to be safe. arbitrarily crushing people who spent their entire lives building a little something of their own to the sound of applause. when children who repeatedly showed no data that they would be negatively affected were still treated like they are the most at risk group. when people who put their health at risk with no knowledge of how dangerous this was and little PPE, once praised with thank yous are now being threatened to lose that very same job. at this point they ACCEPT the risk and if your vaxed and everyone you love is then you should be fighting on their behalf.
how does anyone think that being on the other side of these things is correct? so many more. that's where we should have come together. all while the people making these mandates were caught lying, flip flopping, and repeatedly caught breaking their own protocals with huge smiles on their faces.