transplantbillsfan

I got infractions for things I thought were dumb from mods, but I don't know why folks seem to be so bitter towards them. standingbuffalo, T&C, and Shaw are all over at billievers and I think they're staying away from this board probably because of the general contempt from some over here. They had a tough job over at BBMB. It's the Internet... don't know why grudges can exist so strongly on the Internet towards individual posters. But with those grudges so prominent, if I were them, I'd probably stay away from this message board, too.

Crusher made it!!! Chee HOO!!! I'm legitimately happy you made it over here... you and Jm now just need to kiss and make up... It's a new day!!!

Blah blah blah... One week from right now and we know. Until then, we're going to continue to post like chickens running around with our heads cut off... Nobody knows crap...

Agreed. I just can't wait til March 12th so we know what will happen. I think we should keep him, but if we cut Taylor, I'll get all kinds of excited about the draft in terms of what QB we're going after.

Thanks for the hospitality. Treading lightly...

He doesn't eat up a lot of cap space at all, actually. 9.5% is NOT a lot of cap space for a QB. Eli and Flacco were above 15% of the cap space for their teams last year. Heck, Alex Smith was close to 12%.

Taylor's Cap hit is going to be 9.5% of the teams total CAP for 2017. In 2016, Alex Smith took up 11.5% of his team's CAP, Russell Wilson took up 11.9%, Andrew Luck took up 12.5%, Cam Newton took up 12.8%, Eli Manning took up 15.6%, and Joe Flacco took up 15.8%. I know that right now Taylor's somewhere down around 20th, but I bet that number goes down even more if guys like Carr get contracts this offseason. People are obsessing over the total value of the contract in terms of how much money Taylor will get. Maybe this is going out on a limb (I don't think it is), but I really don't think the Pegulas, who seem to sincerely be committed to winning, are going to quibble over the total money that Taylor is going to get. You own a sports franchise, it's absolutely unavoidable that you're going to spend money on players and not every single player you spend money on will earn all of it. You don't mess around with the most important position in sports. You need a guy to play QB. You can always keep looking if you have one, but someone who is competent needs to line up on Sundays if you want to sell it to your fan base that you're trying to win. Taylor accounts for less than 10% of our Cap if his contract remains as is. And I think it should. I don't want him to renegotiate... if he does we're kicking the can down the road and losing our option to treat this contract (and Taylor) as the Bridge QB we can currently view him as with this contract.

Anyone else think what he says is a bit contradictory... almost to the point of being obtuse? To recap: - Taylor isn't great, but he's a "QB you can start in this league..." and when he's saying that it's not like he's saying, "well, you can start him, but you won't win games with him..." more like you'll win some games and lose some games. In other words, you'll "tread water" with him. You won't drown. You'll tread water. BUT - Don't draft a QB at 10. None are worth it. SO - Start Cardale Jones, even though in all likelihood he's not your franchise QB. Anyone else finding this line of thinking head scratching and completely disregarding some of the simple realities of today's NFL? Exactly... it's a bit of a head-scratcher. All he poses is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.

Indy is oldmanfan or something like that. And yeah... I figured it was about time to use an Avatar... and since the Bills finally have actual boardshorts... figured it perfectly captures my 2 biggest interests And I guess I can see what you're saying about something being up over there recently... whatever the case, now it's gonna take some time to actually feel comfortable posting over here and longer to consistently post threads. Probably a good week for it to happen, anyway, since we're in limbo in many respects right now.

I'll wait until a week from tomorrow to really start posting about our QB. Right now, I'm just pretending like we don't have one. Maybe the BBMB shut down came at an opportune time. I don't know this message board's general stance on Taylor, but I fear what may transpire here on March 12th when we know for sure what the fate of Taylor is.

But who cares? He'd be under contract and he'd have every opportunity to still prove he should be the guy.

I don't know if this message board is different than BBMB, but if it's not about who's better right now, you seem to be telling me that it's not going to be all fire and brimstone if we have a QB who just sucks for a year or two as he starts his NFL career. You also seem to be of the opinion that Taylor won't get any better. Why can't we keep Taylor while also looking for the guy you want down the road? Why not hedge our bets? That way if Taylor does get better and proves to be a franchise guy, maybe we have a young guy we can trade later. Or if he doesn't or gets worse, we can bench him and cut him or trade him within the next couple years and start the young guy. Why one or the other?

I'm not gonna lie... even as a newcomer I'm worried about that over here and feel bad for being part of the influx... that's why i'm straddling between this one and another one I've been a member of for the last year or so.

LOL love it! Truth

Gracias, same to you. I respected tons of posters who wildly disagreed with me. Trolls didn't run rampant over there in terms of numbers... it was just that the few there were started overtaking the board.

Yep... he's such a show off... rightfully so...

I think I'm in love with teef. A good laugh really helps me deal with traumatic experiences...

Shaw is at Billievers, another good forum.

You too. Apocalyps and Rapture might just be appropriate terms here...

Thanks Foxxy... good to see you and Larry and Indy (though gotta get used to his new name) and Buffalo716 and actually a buncha the good posters made it over... I really gotta get used to this. This is my 4th time typing this response and let's see if this goes through without an emoticon... Anyone feel like this thread should just be renamed "Group Therapy" ?

I like that people are keeping the same screen names, as am I. I feel strangely lost... Can someone just hold me?

I'm thinking despite how terrible BBMB has been lately, I'm gonna go through withdrawal for some time. I'm pretty super pissed that every bit of statistical crunching or All-22 charting is just lost. Unreal... Here's hoping this place doesn't become BBMB 2.0!