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1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:
49ers, Chargers, Broncos, Saints????
Deebo Samuel had over 1400 yards last year and Ayuik had over 800 with significantly worse QB play than the bills.
chargers had 2 guys with 1100+ yards last year.
Broncos are a bit of a stretch as last years stats don’t really back it up, but they had Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Lock at QB so it’s a little hard to evaluate.
like I mentioned with the Saints, it does rely on Michael Thomas being healthy, but they added Jarvis Landry and that is a very solid 1-2 punch if Thomas is healthy.-
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17 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:
Want to take a crack at naming 11 teams with better WR’s?
Teams WR groups Id definitely put ahead of the bills: Bengals, Bucs, Dolphins, Rams
Teams WR groups that are likely better than the Bills but an argument could be made: Eagles, raiders, 49ers, chargers, Vikings, Cardinals
Teams WR groups that are in the same tier and could go either way: Seahawks, Broncos, Saints (somewhat relying on Thomas to return to form)
Earlier I said they were probably in the 9-15 range, but I think I'll adjust it to 8-13 range.
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35 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
12 for WR is right on the money IMO.
10 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:Name the 11 other WR groupings. Tampa, Phins, Bengals, Rams, Raiders, Maybe Eagles, Cardinals. That’s it. We’re top 10 for sure.
26 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:Diggs and Davis are both likely to hit the 1,000 mark
I think I agree with @ScottLaw on this one. I think Allen makes it so our WRs will have the production of a top 10 group, and Im pretty confident about that. However, I dont think that is due to our recievers group being the best in the league, I think they are likely somewhere in the 9-15 range. Look at Diggs stats going from Minnesota to Buffalo. His career year was 1,130 yards and had gotten to 1000 yards 2 of his 5 seasons. He comes to the bills and starts playing with Josh Allen and those stats take a big jump. I think with any top 20 WR, Allen would be throwing for 1200+ yards to them. Diggs and Davis may both hit the 1,000 mark, but if you had an average QB throwing to them instead (think Mac Jones) maybe Diggs hits 1,000, but doubt Gabe would.
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7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
That's a weird hill to die on. Not top 5 is laughable. But if you think saying so is key to your argument, then, yeah--I guess you have to go with that.
Not really a hill I need to die on. But I was curious, so I looked up a bunch of lists grading QBs for their 2021 performance specifically, and Matt Stafford got 5,5, 6, 7, 7, 8, and 12 from the lists I looked at. That would put his average ranking at 7, though I didn’t pay much attention to the other QBs which could have had a worse average.
The most important point (the hill to die on) though is that McVay is THE youngest head coach in the NFL. Despite being the youngest, he has a super bowl victory and another appearance. If you dont think there’s a chance (even if it’s <1%) he becomes one of the best coaches of all time, that’s kind of silly.
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4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
“some of that could be attributed to the Rams being better””some of that can be attributed to the Lions being worse”.
jeez, at least you acknowledged that.
Before McVay, Goff had Fisher and Fassel jr., an awful combo. Mcavsy is a very good OC. Yet under his guidance, Goffs performance deteriorated to the point they got rid of him. In steps a “top 5” QB (and Von Miller) and McVay gets a SB win (luckily drawing the Bengals).
When the Rams run out of “win now” money and with a paucity of picks and Stafford hangs it up, McVay won’t have a 1st round rookie QB to groom (or get rid of again).
I don’t think Goff was ever that good. I think McVay disguised a flawed QB pretty well. I still don’t really think Stafford was a top 5 QB last year, though he did have yards and TDS to support that.
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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
In 2018 Goff was 4th in yards and 5th in TDs. In 2019, he was 3rd in yards and 6th in TDs.
Last season, the Rams signed a guy named Matt Stafford as their QB. True, he was "not top 5...not even top 10"---he was top 3 (yards). Top 2 in TDs, #6 in QB rating.
McVay is a genius in Goff's rookie year, then, the next 2 years.....less of a genius as Goff somewhat declined. Then, his GM scores another big get for him with Stafford and presto!---McVay is a genius again!
He was a year younger than Tomlin was when he won his first SB. Tomlin Also brought his team to 2 SB in his first 4 years (it took McVay 5). Who is saying that Tomlin may become one of the *best* coaches ever?
Stanford also led the league in interceptions last year. Something ignored in the above is how well Stafford played before/Goff played after the trade, as well how Goff improved under McVay. Goff’s YPA went from 5.3 before mcvay to a high 8.0 with him. It went up to 8.4, before settling to 7.2. For the lions, Goff had 6.6, his lowest since his rookie season. Sure, some of that can be attributed to the lions being worse, but some could be attributed to McVay’s offense. Under Mcvay, Stafford equaled his career high completion percentage of 67.2% (which he hasn’t hit since 2015), and touchdowns at 41 (which he hadn’t hit since 2011). Again, some of that is because the rams are better, but also some is likely due to the coaching.
As for the Tomlin comment, you’re ignoring what’s happened since his early career success. No one is saying anything about Tomlin having a shot at best coach ever because he hasn’t followed up with dominance. This is kinda like me saying Josh Allen has the potential to be one of the best QBs of all time, and being countered with “But russel Wilson had more early career success, and no one is calling him a top 3 of all time QB” Could Allen/McVay become some of the best we’ve ever seen? Sure. Could they also not? Absolutely.
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Got a pretty good laugh out of this list. They listed Mac Jones at 20/32, then proceeded to say “there is no question that the Patriots have found their long-term starter”. If the 20th best QB in the league is your long term starter, you’re going to be in for a world of hurt.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
a chance to maybe be *the* greatest ever?? lol WTF
He is the youngest super bowl winning head coach ever, and has made the super bowl a separate time, both with QBs that we’re not top 5 in the league, likely not even top 10. Of the active head coaches, he likely has the best chance at being the best other than Belicheat.
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2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Elevate Josh's game to the next level? What is he going to transform into Zeus throwing thunderbolts? Not sure how you elevate from where he was at the end of last season.
I don’t know if you can really elevate from where he was at the end of last season (especially the playoffs), but if he can be more consistently at that level, he would be improved for sure. He had a couple games last year that were subpar for sure (Jax, Atlanta’s 3 picks in a row(though he was our offense that game), windy pats game)
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I thought this was gonna be another OBJ thread lol
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1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:
I have very mixed feelings on this and I'm just going to go through them and just maybe, someone can help me sort them out
1. I do not want drama on this season... Josh Allen is STILL growing... Will OBJ's drama screw with that?
2. I really love McKenzie's growth... At 27 years old IF he has taken the next step, we can get 4 great years out of him but this will take lots of live game day reps to confirm.
3. This is Davis's time to shine! I don't want to pull from that.
4. Is there more to Crowders injury that we don't know?
While OBJ does bring something to the table, I feel my thoughts bring to much concern.
My attempt to address concerns:
1. OBJ did not have much drama in LA last year. Perhaps with a competent team around him, he doesn’t have much to dramatize. Having an elite QB who is a class act helps ease Wr concerns. Beasley was a pretty big source of drama last year, but I don’t think it impacted the team’s performance much, and especially not in the playoffs when the offense was firing on all cylinders. OBJ also wouldn’t have much time to cause drama as he likely won’t be back till November or later.
2/3 If McKenzie and Gabe Davis start playing extremely well, OBJ would be great to have as a 4 for late in the season. If Gabe is truly shining, OBJ can take on a reserve role and play in a rotation, which the bills have used in the past to keep their players fresh and healthy. OBJ is also a lot better than any of our depth currently which would give some security for injuries later in the season.
4. If there is more to Crowder’s injury, all the more reason to bring in another receiver. If not, more depth is a good thing. OBJ is a threat on the field who can dominate games and would slot over Crowder regardless.
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2 hours ago, Bangarang said:
What does this even mean!? It’s literally just words thrown together that provide no context or actual meaning..I think he’s saying the OL was an afterthought in Buffalo behind the skill positions on offense and the defense, and I’m NY it seems to be a bigger part of the puzzle.
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35 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:
The illegal contact thing is dumb to me. one of the most annoying calls on the planet is a ticky tack contact call on 3rd and 15 that gives up a mere 5 yards but an automatic first down. its maddening.... why would we want more of that?
The reason behind it was last year it was called about 1/3 of the averages of the past 2 decades. It is quite the annoying penalty, but it’s also quite annoying to see your receivers constantly interferes with.
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It appears the NFL has given directives to referees to have 2 areas of focus in the upcoming season. One is a higher emphasis on illegal contact (touching a wr further than 5 yards downfield), which was called significantly less frequently than average last year. The other area of focus is a greater scrutiny of roughing the passer calls, to make them less often (after they were very high last year).
I think the emphasis on illegal contact should benefit the bills, especially against teams like the Chiefs who have tended to be grabby with the Bills receivers. We did benefit from a few timely roughing the passer calls last year though, so there definitely could be cons.
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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I didn’t know you could do that as I rarely use it, only when it’s my only option. I’ll do that from now on.
Yup. When you go to pay (at least on the iOS app), there’s a little link that says public right above the pay button. If you click on that, you can select who can view: public, friends (yours and the recipients’), or private (just you and the recipient).
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
That’s my question too. I prefer Zelle because don’t trust Venmo (and hate that Venmo transactions are public) but will tell everyone to leave the memo blank when sending the $.
Just so you are aware, You can set Venmo transactions to be private.
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1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Obviously drafting Allen in of itself is a huge victory. But overall this draft feels different. Everyone looks incredibly sharp. They all look like they could be starters.
Elam is likely getting playing time
Cook for sure will get playing time
Bernard is likely to get playing time
Araiza is likely to be the starter
Shakir is likely to get playing time
Luke, Spector, and Benford appear to be solid depth with potential.Allen is elite
Edmunds is a starter
Harrison Phillips is/was a starter
Taron Johnson is a starter In this defense
Wyatt Teller is a high end starter
Siran Neal is good depth stuck behind 2 all pro safeties, perhaps he would have been a starter elsewhere
Ray ray mccolud sees some playing time, not on the bills.
the only real miss was Austin Proehl.
Honestly, I don’t really see this this draft surpassing 2018. Josh Allen alone would be incredibly hard to beat, but only one real miss in the draft is also damn good.-
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9 minutes ago, StHustle said:
I don’t mean to jump the gun…but ***** it Ima jump the gun!
Is it just me or does this draft class seem to be a total grand slam??? I can’t remember another class where just about ALL of the picks of made standout plays in camp with the vets….mind you, very good vets! This isn’t some bum team where rookies should be shining like in years past. Even down to Spector, our 7th round pick, I believe all have gotten reps with the ones. Sometimes cause injury but more often cause they earned the look. And even in the injury situations, it’s been mostly reported of them holding their own vs seeming overwhelmed. This is amazing! Beane is really shaping up to be the GOAT.
I think this will end up being our overall best draft class yet. Gotta love BBB.
2018 gonna be hard to beat. Elite QB, decent MLB (kind of polarizing one), solid DT, top 5 slot CB, solid depth safety/big nickel guy, high end guard (that we ended up trading early)
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Kolby Listenbee 2.0?
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19 hours ago, NewEra said:
Or yours, complaining about people complaining.
Or this one, complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
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19 hours ago, sherpa said:
Here's an idea.
I find it idiotic how the referee has to waste so much time during games, especially challenged plays,
Coach throws the flag.
Ref heads over to talk to him.
Ref heads back on the filed to announce the challenge, which everybody already knows about.
Ref heads to booth to review play.
Ref reviews play.
Ref talks to coaches.
Ref heads back on field to announce the result the result of the challenge.
Total waste of time.
So what’s the idea? All I see is a complaint.
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14 hours ago, Big Turk said:
A piece of the turf with the Bills logo
Drove by a huge tractor that looked like it was so high that you could drive a car underneath it driving towards Batavia yesterday...I can't even imagine what you would need to do to get into it and I would probably freak out climbing that high.
Probably a spreader for corn fields- they’re that tall so they can go into corn fields without running everything over, just where the tires are.
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Gonna go with the vikes. They have among the best weapons in the league. Dalvin Cook, Justin Jefferson, and Adam Theilin are vastly superior to Green Bay’s weapons and make up enough of the difference between Rodgers and Cousins.
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On 7/2/2022 at 6:09 AM, ganesh said:
Tom Brady is a 7-time super bowl champion. I don't think there is any other player in any other sport who has dominated his sport except may be Don Bradman in Cricket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bradman
The great Don average 99.96 runs every time he went to bat. The next best average is like 60.
Is Bill Russel the best basketball player of all time then, since he won 11 championships?
NFL "Around the League" Gameday thread
in The Stadium Wall
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I think the Steelers won the battle but lost the war with all the injuries they had.