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This screams arrogant “We got you to the playoffs, we can do no wrong” pick. Beane and McDermott put their careers on the line with this pick, they better hope Allen is a decent QB.
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1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said:
Take this for what you will
By far, the best sceanario for the Bills
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34 minutes ago, Bills4life1924 said:
Yea don’t be surprised if Jackson is picked well before that if Rapoport’s comments are true
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Unless Rosen or Mayfield fall, Jackson at 12 makes a lot for sense than most people here think. Rather draft Jackson without losing a pick than losing a ton of picks for one of the top 3 QBs.
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You guys are burying the lead, Jason La Confora is saying this. I know I think are definitely not trading up knowing his tracking record of predicting Bills moves
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This thread should be locked based on the OP’s username. If Peterman starts any games next season then it’s a lost season.
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Now with Daboll as OC, I think I would draft Jackson if he’s available at 21. If they can develop an offense similar to what O’Brien did with Watson or Pederson did with Wentz, I think Bills can have a star player. Definitely will need a deep threat WR to compliment Jones and Benjamin for it to work.
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I’m not big on a Big 12 QB who will have a big learning curve playing QB in the NFL (Bryce Petty). Really can’t waste a 1st round pick on a project QB.
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3 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:
Please tell me the last time a non-elite QB won the Superbowl? Answer: 2002 and it was Brad Johnson. The last great example of winning how you want to win occurred SIXTEEN YEARS ago. Here are the QBs who have won the SB since Johnson:
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDsThis team will go nowhere without a QB. We have been afraid to pull the trigger and actually spend the capital to draft a franchise QB, but we can trade 2 1sts for a WR who didn't even play out his rookie contract for some reason? I'm tired of having no shot at winning games in the 4th quarter when we're down. I'm sick and tired of having no long term plan at QB and everyone's "let's just get someone who isn't terrible, QB can be "next year's problem."
And tell me you think the Bills are any shot at getting any of those supposed QB prospects and do the Bills have the offensive coaching and personnel currently for any young QB to succeed?, answer those questions well and I’ll consider you to be right. And btw, Flacco, Eli, and Wilson when he won are not elite QBs imo, solid but both Ravens and Giants were decent teams with good defenses. You don’t need a star QB, it just that the Pats have the greatest coach and QB combo and everybody goes gag over. To really need a well-balanced team and is good on both sides of the ball. And that’s been one of the Bills biggest problem.
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Just now, ndirish1978 said:
This is the losing mentality that kept us out of the playoffs for 17 years. You're basically asking for Orton/EJ 2, oh except EJ was a first round pick and theoretically had a higher chance of being better than your mid-round hail mary.
How is it losing mentality if overall roster is stronger with better players sans QB. Look at the Vikings, they have a great roster filled with players they drafted. To me, strengthening the roster is more important than getting a QB in this draft. The biggest problem during the streak was drafting based on supposed needs instead of drafting BPA and not smart drafting plans. Biggest mistake any team can make in the forcing picks, numerous teams including the Bills can done this especially in terms of QB, just look at the 2011 Draft.
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I say sign either Bridgewater or McCarron since both will not command a high salary and can a bridge to a young developing QB.
Find a diamond in the rough QB in the 3rd-4th round, we aren’t getting any of the top QBs so reason to waste a the top picks on a project QB when the team has so many other issues and lacks talent everywhere.
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Just now, Bubba Gump said:
You've come to this conclusion after 2 quarters of play and one good pass? Maybe you should become an NFL scout. Not saying he won't be good, but you're just a tad premature in your assessment. The kid needs to put on some major muscle before he goes anywhere. He would get destroyed in the NFL built the way he is.
He’s a freshman now, sure he needs to progress and fill out and I have no doubt he will considering where is and who is coming him. The way he moved the safety and got his receiver wide open like that was tremendous. But biggest thing I like was his composure and poise reminded me of Russell Wilson in Wisconsin.
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Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:
You really want to wait that long for a QB? Not me and not the Bills, we're getting a QB this spring no matter what.
YES, he move the safety and gave his receiver and walk in TD. There are NFL QBs including Tyrod who can’t make that play as a QB. If he continues to progress he is a sure fire top pick in a NFL draft. None of these QBs have this kid ceiling. I rather Bills middle with journeymen or Peterman to have a chance st this kid.
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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
That rookie QB for Bama is gonna be a good one...true freshman reading the coverage, looking off the safety and throwing a dime to the area vacated to win the game...
Man it would be a dream if the Bills would get him in a few years if he can progress
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Um, no.
Please, there is a reason why he was considered a top QB recruit coming out of high school and you saw it tonight. I see no reason to draft a QB in Rounds 1-3 now especially with no chance of Rosen and Darnold.
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Get Tua in a Bills uniform in 2020, forgot all these QBs in this upcoming draft
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Just now, KelsaysLunchbox said:
Losman absolutely was. Manuel was projected, along with Geno Smith as a first rounder by many. It was a poor draft for QBs. We knew it at the time.
JP, well he was the 4th guy taken at the position. First 3 guys are in the discussion for a gold jacket when they retire.
When you look back, yes both were bad picks. One was 4th in a strong class and the other was the first QB taken in a weak one. This draft is "projected" as a strong class for QBs. I'd gladly roll the dice on the 3rd or 4th best viewed guy this year as opposed to the top QB most years. Yea, we could end up with a Losman...but we could just end up with a Big Ben.
Look I get you want a franchise guy, we all do, but the fact of the matter is unless in Aaron Rodgers case inexplicably falls in the 1st round, it’s very difficult to find a QB in with the picks Bills have in the 1st. I rather find a diamond in the rough like Russell Wilson. I rather continue to get good players all across the roster because this roster lacks talent, I think you can agree on that and FA will be part of the way to do that.
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17 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
No, didn't miss your point just completely disagree with what you said. You're content with taking fliers on second team QBs and hoping you can find a journeyman that's just good enough to get by until one pans out. That's great. I'm not. I'm sick of seeing guys like Tyrod and Fitzpatrick. I want a franchise QB. I'm not saying to blow the was of picks on one at the top. All I said at the start was if you don't mind a QB in the 2nd...be prepared to take him in the first. The whole notion of "overdrafting" and "reaching" on a guy is hogwash. If he's your guy...take him.
So JP Losman and EJ Manuel weren’t reaches just to clarify your opinion?
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1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
You do realize that the Vikes actually drafted a QB (Bridgewater) over where some had him projected, then burned and the 1st when Teddy got hurt (that's 2 1st right there if you're keeping score) only to get by this season from a freaky season by Keenum that if I'm a betting man would say he will never have again...right? That's the model you like?
So in short, they spend 2 firsts only to have Case Keenum take over. Not great long term planning. Sounds all very Fitzpatrickish to me...and we have all seen that movie before.
Wow you really missed my point entirely, the Vikings roster is mostly filled with players they picked and most believe they have the best overall roster in the league. The fact they are winning with not having their starting QB should tell how well-constructed their team is. If the Bills fan construct team like that in 2-3 years and the QB is a journeyman playing solidly I would take in a heartbeat over a star QB with a middling roster. The biggest reason the streak was as long it was because bad roster construction and overvaluing needs over getting good players. Taking Rudolph over BPA would a classic Bills mistake.
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8 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
And who is to say he's not Jim Kelly? And who is to say whoever your "surefire" 1st rounder you draft instead isn't Tony Mandrich?
Point is you can't win the lotto if you don't have a ticket. BPA is certainly "not hard" when you have a QB. When you have Aaron Rodgers, sure take a flier on Hundley early. Doesn't work out...so be it. When you have bupkis at the position you draft one you like, one that you feel good about tying your career on and take him. Take him a round before the "experts" think because if you don't someone else sure will.
My point is why force a pick above what he is projected, if Rudolph is projected a 2nd-3rd round that’s where you pick him there if he’s there. If you want waste another pick like when the Bills picked EJ Manuel and JP Losman instead improving your team in other areas instead of QB, be my guess. I rather build my team like the Vikings where it’s a strong overall roster and the QB just has to competent.
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1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
If you like Rudolph in the second, you take him in the first. Don't play around. If you feel he can be the guy you don't lose him.
No, because who is to say he’s not EJ Manuel. It’s not hard pick the BPA in both spots hopefully that’s LB and D-Linemen.
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Alex Smith really, if you guys are complaining on Tyrod, you will do the same on Smith.
Rather go after a placeholder like Keenum, McCarron, or McCown if Jets move on from him.
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Milano possibly being out is huge, Humber will be picked on a lot on passing situations. Hopefully the Bills get good pressure on Bortles throughout the game.
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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Great game, Go Dawgs!
I'm officially not sold on Mayfield. And I was really hoping he'd have a great playoff run and lead OK to a Championship. If for no other reason than to put another QB into the mix at the top of the draft.
I guess I can't say he's any less of a prospect than Mahomes, and he went #10. I still think Deshaun Watson will always be better than both of them.
Bottom line, I dont see Mayfield as a long term solution as a team leader and franchise QB in the NFL.
Yea I just didn’t see Mayfield enough NFL caliber throws where he had to lead his receiver or make throws in tight windows. If he in McVay type offense where skill players are schemed in great position to make plays, he could be solid. In Dennison’s offense, I think he would struggle mightily especially if O-Line isn’t strengthen.
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This screams arrogant “We got you to the playoffs, we can do no wrong” pick. Beane and McDermott put their careers on the line with this pick, they better hope Allen is a decent QB.