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20 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
He’s going to have to be better at contested catches to win vertically but I believe he will eat in the intermediate middle of the field as a pro and I don’t mean from the slotif thats true were in great shape with him. that 2020 year josh really ate with jon brown and co at the intermediate stuff. kincaid was also stuck with a veryyyyyyyy short depth of target under Dorsey. obv that started to change and fully expect him to be given keys to kingdom this year. gabe was just kinda whatever out there, felt like we were playing 10 v 11
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8 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
If Wash wants to deal or another team in the next 5 or so picks....I think we should seriously consider it.
Keon Coleman is my guy at this point
God dang I will HHHAAATTTEEE this. I can't imagine pining for a dude who couldn't separate in college.
That said I was furious we got wrong josh, and will have to talk myself into that mindset to try and not barf.
4.5 years clean/sober, Bills are definitely the hardest part of staying sober 😅😅😅
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1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:
Excellent post.
More recently, Cowboys stood still when Beane did a small trade-up and got a guy Jones coveted.
I am all for a trade-up to get the guy you really want and the cost of a low draft pick to move up a few slots is forgotten very quickly. Yet some fans don't forget and keep lamenting that "yea but Beane had to use assets to move up". It doesn't matter when you land a Kincaid type player.
I am very much convinced we will see a trade-up tonight.
the best party about the small hump up is that it allows BPA and position of need to align, thats good business in my book. they make their big board and stick to it.... if you see a big talent gap dropoff on whos going to be available, you sacrifice to go get him..... BPA, need, and avoiding reaching/overdrafting in your original draft position
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1 hour ago, billsfan714 said:
How did Sammy Watkins work out? Or JP Losman.
2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:Me too.
@dave mcbridethis is like trying to argue with a child that mcdonalds isnt the best food on the planet
15 yEaRs AgO sOmEtHiNg BaD hApPeN! tRaDe AlWaYs BhAd!
1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:Davis was his best DRAFTED receiver, and he was average, all things considered.
Can't say he evaluated Diggs who was an established veteran. It's one thing to bring in an FA. It's another to draft a dude.
so how do we know hes a bad talent evaluator at WR?
Davis was a 4th rd. not my fav player of all time, but i think most would agree he lived up to a 4th rd pick
Khalil Shakir in the 5th, that looks pretty good
Kincaid looks good, hes a TE, but a pass catcher
Justin Shorter, we dunno anything about, but thats a 5th rd flyer on a big body
from a small sample size looks pretty solid, no?
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18 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
I'm barging in here and not even sure about the details you guys have been talking about, but this point about Kelce is something I've been thinking about lately. Yes, it's true that Kelce is super special, but I think it's important to recognize that he doesn't succeed with physical dominance. He doesn't have great speed, he isn't a great run after catch guy - he isn't extraordinary at breaking tackles. His RAC comes from being wide open.
I'm not sure I'd call Kelce a game changer, altho I won't argue that point. What he is is an excellent scheme fit.
Kelce is an excellent tight end with good hands and brains, playing in great scheme with a QB who can execute the scheme. The important point for this discussion is brains, scheme, and a QB who executes is what makes a great passing game in the current NFL.
I think, in fact, that receivers are becoming a dime a dozen, just like running backs. Successful teams don't need a top-five running back, and I think the passing game already has evolved to the point that they don't need a top-five receiver. I mean, they'll have a guy who is top-five in the stats, but he'll get there by being a scheme fit rather than being a great receiver. I think that's exactly what we've seen in Kansas City. And it's what we've seen in LA and Detroit and SF.
The Bills need a wideout, for sure. But I no longer think it's important to have the stud you might find in the top of the draft. There are a lot guys who can become part of an excellent passing attack in Buffalo, probably a half-dozen in the draft, and guys who will be available in September.
so the entire league is wrong, so wrong that theyre inflating the hell outta WR pay like we've never seen before? lol cmon this is crazy talk..... its a passing league
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4 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:
For several years if they trade future picks.
were worried that the strategy would then be winning with the offense?
we have the #2 QB in the nfl, one whos never had a fully dynamic offense around him like weve seen Mahomes have some years (not this year)
its 2024 where the NFL as a whole is driven by offense
adding a nasty WR to Josh is not 1 + 1 = 2
theres a synergy where the goal, if trading up, is 1 + 1 = 10
offense is at a rules advantage versus the defense league wide. this is the strategy we SHOULD be feeding into. not all the resources should go to the offense, but your top resources should
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6 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:
Did anyone see the nice / endearing piece on NFL about Adonai Mitchell and him transferring for his daughter?
My first thought: Buffalo is going to be a problem.
I'd cross him off our boards.
lol this is a comically bad post
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7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Dealing from a position of weakness is going to cost a ton.
meh. none of this matters now that diggs is already gone. not ideal timing to get rid of him pre-draft, but its safe to assume theres a reason it needed done ASAP,, now its obvious we want WR r1, but even before that trade teams arent dumb. the fans knew WR rd1 was likely, you cant hide your roster.
if a team gets greedy asking price, you call the next one down the list and hope someone will undercut a crazy demand..... and if nobody will, be fine staying put. youd LIKE to move up (maybe), but you dont HAVE to. thats beanes leverage
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6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
In the end I expect this to be much commotion about nothing. I'm certain Beane has called pretty much everyone about what a package to move up would look like. Gathering information. He does this every year to my knowledge. So do most GMs.
My best guess is in the long run this is a nothing burger. Lots of people spinning their wheels this week are building some pretty high expectations that will set themselves up for a disappointment come Thursday Night IMO.
Yeah I mean this in reality is the least notable thing ever. a GM not doing this with every other GM would be notable.
even a team in a spot you dont think you would want to move to, you still should be touching base with all 31 others
'hey would you even consider moving from where you are?
---no- ok thanks, got anyone else youre looking to move on your roster, even depth guy?
---yes? i know its a situational decision, but whats ballpark youd be looking for?
bare bones, this is literally their job. theres what, 10mins between picks? 32 teams, each team has like 10 ppl in draft room. GMs, HCs, their assistants, an owner... a million moving parts, these guys should all have some type of rough idea of a bare bones starting point of a negotiation. on top of that, theyre job is to relationship build.... touch base, be friendly, likable. you cant be a GM with multiple sour relationships in the league, and its advantageous as hell to have good comfortable working relationships, because maybe that team will call you first when something juicy pops up. 'hey call beane, we got a short window and maybe only time for 1 call to get this done, hes fair, easy to work with, decisive....'
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5 hours ago, 947 said:
Tweeners who don't fit a singular position do usually bust, but there have been some successes.
Brian Urlacher played Safety-LB hybrid & returned kicks at New Mexico, he was a stud at MLB from day 1 in the NFL.
parsons kinda fits this mold. although i agree with the overall point
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22 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:
Mark Andrews TE Ravens and a couple other lesser players currently in the NFL. I don’t mean to downplay the disease and a player certainly can be impacted during a game. But they and the staff will have a very manageable plan.
i think the bigger concern, and it could be smoke screen, is that he sucks at taking care of it. doesnt check it enough, diet concerns, and that they believe its directly caused him to be difficult to work with at times......
^^^thats the rumor anyway. the 'difficult to work with' thing was kinda vague though..... did they mean,
1)he gets HANGRY'ish and becomes a jerk bc his sugars low and he doesnt know. orrrrrrrrr
2) the team tried to get him to eat better/check more frequently, and hes stubborn and is just going to do it his way/unapproachable about the topic
if that rumor is true, then i get the concern. i had a type1 diabetic roommate at 18, dude drank booze and regular Redbull, and ate BS constantly..... i had to call 911 for him several times bc he was just dumb about it. hed mix up his medications. there was insulin, and something else hed only take in the morning, was supposed to help keep him in a tighter range in between insulin shots.
dude woke up one day, hadnt ate, meant to take the 'stabilizer' (not a doctor i might be a lil off), but hit himself within insulin pen, when he was already low sugar..... not only was he already low, but it was more insulin then hed normally take even after eating.... legit thought dude was gunna die. turned 'dead body white', unconscious, seizing, while im trying to squirt whip cream down his face hole. dude didnt learn a thing, was drinking Yager bombs with classic Redbull 48hrs later at the bar lol
anyway, if hes a younger dude who wants to try and live like someone without diabetes, at minimum hes gunna be less than optimal performance, might have foot problems more than most wr's, mentally unsharp in film room/practice. obv we dunno the extent, if any, but teams are gunna take a deep dive into it and very easily could push him down. this 2nd/3rd tier WR group is so tightly clustered already, wouldnt shock me if he was last to go in those tiers
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On 4/19/2024 at 12:02 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
I want to go into my YTTV account to turn off auto renewal so to prevent being charged full price automatically, found instructions on how to do, but when I go down to step 4 NFL ST membership is not listed. I'm wondering is that due to not being in season right now and now even offered yet, or some other reason. Can others get to step 4? Right now I'm traveling so out of home market, wondering if that could have something to do with why I can't see the membership or other reason??
Looks like the same sketchy behavior all these companies use, literally all of them!
Ever try to cancel Prime, Disney, Peacock, Spotify? Lol good luck finding it buried deep in 8th layer of sub-clicks,where it's vaguely thrown in a category of settings it makes no sense being in. Plausible deniability to FTC you can cancel, but they hope you CANT FIND IT.
Google where to find the setting? They've used SEO services to make sure any useful tip is buried on page 94 or after.
Best way to hit them back is to close whatever card they're billing, and if they find a way to sneak it through, dispute it! Dispute rates hurt these companies more then even just canceling can. Obv that's annoying, but my point is always dispute shady transactions like this. For every 1 complaint FTC or Atty General see s, there are 5k unreported
/rant.
Also.... 🏴☠️☠️🏴☠️☠️
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2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:
whoops! sorry about that.
no, the chargers can’t trade Hebert. $108.5M dead cap if they traded him. That can’t happen.
Don't say this or use logic.
I just got +25,000 on Chargers first pick being a QB 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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4 hours ago, NewEra said:
Anything is possible, but his cap hit is 24M this year. If they trade him, it’s 36M
Yeah my bad I meant Legette just seems so comparable to DK, in every way. WOULD THROW UP if we miss on a pick and legette ends up an absolute freak.
2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:I don’t know why the Chargers would want to trade Herbert - dude can play. Maybe Harbaugh wants McCarthy?
Lol this would be funny. One giant step towards returning to college, before TC even starts 🤣 he'll be coaching Bama by or before 2026
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On 4/17/2024 at 5:24 PM, Dr. Who said:
You're definitely trading up from #60 if you want Legette. It will cost you a 2025 2nd, probably. Maybe Polk is there if you wait. #60 is not a great spot in the draft.
I've got serious DK Metcalf FOMO on him right now. Much prefer we take someone more polished rd1, then go up and snag him rd2
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On 4/15/2024 at 12:22 PM, Warcodered said:
The NFL just hasn't been the same since it's gotten soft and they removed fatalities from the
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On 4/12/2024 at 6:55 AM, Stokes84 said:
I love the pre-draft hot takes. I remember A LOT that looked just like this about Josh Allen.
so were using the rare exception to the rule (not the standard) as a measuring stick, not even just to QBs, but to any position/prospect now LOL
i like this! personally, while people may say hes fat, has a 5second 40, one arm, is 37years old. i think we should trade up into top 5 to take BillsShredder83
....did i do this right?
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16 hours ago, Frostbite said:
Josh was a "leftover" was he not?...
herbert.levis might enbd up being aight. russ wilson back in the day. the boogeyman whoms name we dont mention lol
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12 hours ago, DrPJax said:
Will always love the BILLS , esp the 90’s teams and their greatness, but imho the final 4 is more pure athletic joy to watch over the much hyped , but often predictable, often less competitive Sb!
For one thing tonight’s national anthem was performed beautifully , flawlessly , with no improvised runs or interpretation. Done by a Native American who moved the crowd to chant USA, USA with no ongoing war , just moved by her performance which was fabulous and has replaced Whitney’s rendition imo ,{albeit it was still supporting the USA at a time of war}. Just my opinion , but thats how you show pride in your country with no political agenda. If that didn’t move you , maybe you are either very jaded or over medicated.
The quality of competition in march madness has been really good, and the meaning to each player , some of whom will never become pros , leads to the exhibition of passion pro sports fails to reach at this point. Now foes are just buddies, who share commercials, may even be teammates the next season, plus they are all highly paid and they know there is always next year because there is no eligibility limit other than your teams needs / cap limits. However, there are 31 other chances to catch on. The NFL is a mans sport , and nothing can match the youthful exuberance that we all Lose with time and experience. I loved the nfl/bills so much in my 20’s that iwent to two superbowls. Great experiences i was so happy to attend; yet now it is such a corporate , highly over priced event that there is no longer any amount of money you could pay me to be treated as nothing more than a commodity by a multibillion dollar business who still begs for taxpayors monies while holding communities hostage threatening to move their franchises despite years of faithful support.
That leads to the actual players we are supposed to be fans of, enjoy their unique talents. Some live up to that lofty expectation and i salute those who somehow retain their humility. But then we are exposed to many criminals, many with children by several “baby-mommas” as if some badge of honor, and of course , the narcissists who speak about teamwork but whose actions prove they are only about their personal gains and are really not about anything but their “ bag”. It’s just not as prevalent in college and they still play for each other. enjoying possibly their only chance to win a championship. It’s a business still, but not as in your face as ‘THE SHIELD” is.
Also , basketball is played much the same as it was in the 70’s , other than held balls and the 3 point line. Try and keep up with pro football , and the myriad of changes makes it hard to grasp each year It’s still way too often decided by too many part time refs and waiting literally on minutes for replay to still come back with not enough evidence or even frankly still wrong. Basketball doesn’t suffer from all the delays between plays , reviews, innumerable commercials . Rare doe it have Overhyped ,overextended halftimes. It’s still a faster paced game.
And never tell me about so called football experts, its plethora of podcasters that talk like they know more than regular fans, or all the draftniks who spend hours evaluation tons of mock drafts.. they are rarely even close and do all that wasted “film time” , as only 4-5 0f drafted players from each time will even see plating time. Yeah tell me experts have validity when almost 0 0f them predicted Diggs being traded. Actually criticizing any other opinion sarcastically “because there was no way with that cap hit”! It’s just proof , experts are no more than guessing amateurs and spending money on their “opinions” is just akin to scams. If you can’t predict a major trade like Diggs , how far off must your other advice be ?
But my main point still comes down to which event do you enjoy more? The SB , with its multimillion dollar athletes who will do the same all over again next year , with little on the line for them personally as most have already made their fortunes , or the excitement of march madness who didn’t have 2 anthems sung to please its corporate crowd., and is still the same sport we basically all have played. I love the BILLS , but i really don’t care about the offseason that much. Because time after time , the season isn’t won until it actually counts. The SB is good, most time anti climatic, but march madness and the final 4 is still ascending. Give me a BILLS win and i might feel different,,,,but 55 years is a lot to ask! Still, a great anthem tonight! Great game tonight!
I see you're getting rained down on, but this is a football forum, and one centered around buffalo which has no pro team and no competitive college teams for basketball.
That said the SB as a whole, has been mostly trash (as a 35year Olds perspective). There's been some decent games sprinkled, last 2 years have been fun, generally I think afccg/nfccg is the best round.
The tournament was a freaking blast. I don't think your opinion is as out of line as the comments here would make it appear
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2 hours ago, Special K said:
I believe he has 2 years and 35 million left on his current contract......if Seattle eats some of that contract in the way the Bills did with Diggs, could a trade for Metcalf be possible?
How about a 2nd and 4th this year plus a conditional 2nd that could become a 1st next year for Metcalf and Seattle's 3rd rounder this year.
This would still leave the Bills with the ability to draft a WR at 28.....they could go with a smaller speed-type receiver like Xavier Worthy to compliment Metcalf at WR2.
An offense of Metcalf, Worthy, Samuel, Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook would surpass anything any other AFC offense could put on the field!!
Lets go, Beane!!
I'm not here to poop on trade idea threads. It's reasonable, trade value looks fair or in ball park of fair.... wouldn't hate it If we did it, but prefer if we just draft our own young cheap guys.
That compensation gets us at least in ball park of a top 3 wr. Definitely within top 4. Stay cheap, get the humble, juiced up to perform kinda guy over an expensive veteran.
Will admit my approach is more of a gamble, higher ceiling, lower floor potential. If BB finds that too risky or impossible.... stay put and let a stacked draft fall your way.
Good scenarios where any of the 3 options improves us
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Literally who cares?
There's a reason the team keeps in house squabbles under wraps. Think the season gets better or worse if front office let's all this hit open air? Pretty easy to say worse, 1 year of that, what's Diggs already tainted draft value? A 5th?
Are we pining for the Russ Brandon days? Lol I'm cool with not hearing soap opera bs if it means better on field production.
Wrestlemania is this weekend, maybe that could be your thing! I'll take being a fan of football games instead
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2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Yes, but we’re not paying any of our skill position players top end of market right now. Shakir, Kincaid and Cook are cost controlled for at least another 2 years. Knox took a paycut. Yes, it would be great if we could draft a stud WR who’s immediately a #1WR but the odds are well below 50% where we are drafting. And I’m not wasting a year of prime Josh on those odds. Give me the 80-90% sure thing in Aiyuk.
solid reasoning here i could be talked into (compensation dependant). still want us to take a WR in draft, basically high (top 3 rds) every year we have Josh
CAN ANYONE ANSWER:
IF SF IS ON ROOKIE CONTRACT W/ PURDY, WHY ARE THEY UNWILLING TO PAY HIM? I KNOW THEY PAY DEEBO, BUT AGAIN ROOKIE QB CONTRACT
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3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
Wow! See that’s why I like this trade. No more diva wide receivers. Just draft smart young guys who are willing to do whatever and run good routes. Just let Josh distribute.mcconkey lol
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Agree they have to believe that. And yep, Harrison is not a total consensus as #1. Equally though Nabers isn't a total consensus as #2.
The other option is a trade up to say #13 with the Raiders which costs a smaller price and take Thomas.
early here, but this is the scenario im liking the most (obv on paper without specifics known).
If you win some money you dont immediately blow it out of a cannon as fast as you can to buy a mansion. you pay off your current mortgage, get a nice but reliable car, dont quit your job, stay on the plan.
small trade up to grab the #4 guy, unless a top 3 falls farther than youd expect. consider going to WR well again in 2nd/4th. develop shakir, Kink, plug some holes elsewhere.
that Minn 2nd is going to be a premium top 10 (maybe 5'ish) pick, so if some team wants to treat it like mid-late rd pick, you walk. if some team acknowledges that team is going to bottom out and theyre looking to trade back to build up a roster, you consider it
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Rd 5, Pick 168: Edge Javon Solomon, Troy
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god dang that video is brutal. how hard is it to circle or put a dot on a guy before u show a play