[Diggs trade aftermath...what this means for the offense, draft, other WR's still here...]

7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I really had no problem moving on from Steff after how much he complains he had arguably his worst game as a bill his last game.

But to do it now and not closer to the draft or having something else planned is utterly ridiculous.

I still have to think there is something else at work cause man the WR Depthchart is absolutely terrible. 

Can't help but think Beane has something in the works as far as a trade or FA signing.  The draft is too much of a crap shoot.  

[Diggs traded to Texans for picks]

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Look at his catch percentage and depth of target. Marino has some great numbers on this. He was receiver three from week 7 to 28 and did ***** all in the postseason including a critical drop.

 

Yeah, sometimes guys hit the wall quick 

Marino does point out great numbers on Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, and Shakir.  Pretty telling of why they traded Diggs and let Davis go in FA.  Plus I believe Diggs just wore people out to include Allen.

[PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion]

I never thought PSLs would go as high as $50k.  There may be a higher turnover than everyone anticipated.  Some people may not even have a choice but to opt out.  That sucks.

[Tre White Gone]

19 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

 

I really wonder how his body is coming back

 Hoping the best for him , but it feels like he might be done ? 🙄

Might be right

[McDermott is feeling the pressure]

I think McD is a pretty good coach.  Has he made mistakes? Yes.  The Bills have had some injuries the last 2 seasons which have not helped.  Teams that win the SB usually have some luck regarding injuries.  I don't think the Bills roster has been as good as needed.  Not enough high draft picks on offense.  Too many high picks on defense.  Too much FA money on defense.  Not enough FA money on offense.  I think the team's roster philosophy is flawed.  You have Allen and Diggs on offense and now 1 season with Kincaid.  Get more wideouts for Allen who can get open and catch the F'n ball.  Why is this so hard?

[Tre White Gone]

5 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I agree. 

And I don't think Beane even answered the question of whether or not they offered a pay cut, seems like they didn't.  With so many draft picks it seems like a later round CB who might develop behind Douglas would make more sense than bringing back Tre.

 

Hyde makes more sense to me at a cheap price.  While the Bills should try and get a younger developing player it seems like  they could still use another veteran presence.

I don't pretend to know all the rules, but I was thinking earlier today if the Bills might try to get White, at some point during the season, on the PS.  Have him work back to getting ready and possibly elevate him late in the season or not.  Like I said, don't know all the rules involved with released players.

[Tre White Gone]

1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I don't think Tre comes back. 

 

IMO the blurb from Beane about Tre was because he was put in a tough interview spot when right after his praise of Von for taking a pay cut they asked him if the pay cut had been an option discussed with Tre.  There was a telling, panicked, half second before Beane got into his preprogrammed GM speak. 

 

We'll have to see what happens with the draft but right now I give much better odds for Hyde to come back than Tre.

Before White was released, I thought best case was he started on the PUP and come back at some point this season.  His availability timeline seems murky and don't see any team in a hurry to sign him at this point.

[DE Austin Johnson visiting the Bills today - UPDATE: DaQuan Jones says we got him]

11 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The only way anyone could be happy with this Free Agency is if they expected literally nothing (as you said). As in, they somehow expected us to field a team of 42 players instead of 53.

We have acquired:

- Curtis Samuel

- A defensive end with one of the worst possible grades you could ever imagine (Johnson)
- A LB whose former teams fans were celebrating him leaving (Morrow)

- A backup center

- Mitch Trubisky

Maybe I missed someone?

We have signed scrap heap players. 

Johnson is 6'4 315.  He's a DT, so he's not going to have great stats.  He's just going to clog up the LOS.  I think Samuel could be a pretty good signing.

[KC Trades L.Sneed to Titans]

Sneed is good.  Glad he's no longer a Chief.  So is Diggs.

[Drafting 10 or 11 Rookies: Is there an argument to do that this year?]

Beane will most likely trade around a bit within later rounds to get a guy he covets.  Also I can see him trading up into the 3rd rd.  Bills have not had much luck stashing draft picks on the PS.  The last few drafts, these picks have been claimed off waivers.  I can see 6 - 8 actual drafted players by the Bills.  Getting back into the 3rd round might be a little tricky and cost a few picks.

[WR then BPA]

Bills are light at DT and S.  I could see a veteran DT and S signing in FA.  Going into the draft they then could go WR, DT, S, CB and DE.  I hate saying this because I want a WR, but I think Beane might go DL first and then WR.  

[CURTIS SAMUEL A BILL]

I had to look up his stats and highlights, and I live in the DC area.  He looks pretty good to me.

[Draft night I can see this coming]

I like the idea and the plan but I think it's one year too soon.  Too many roster spots to fill this season.  A good draft this year makes your idea plausible next years draft imo

[Takeaways from Beane's Combine pressers]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

the way he played here…that sends the wrong message to the team.  Don’t do it!

Agree.  I want Douglas back too.  However we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.  He may want more money than the Bills are willing to pay.

[Takeaways from Beane's Combine pressers]

25 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

a low third rounder but with knowledge will be getting another 3rd rounder in UFA compensation and the 5th rounder from Green Bay. The way I see it is we traded down in the 3rd round from pick 91 to pick 166* (not sure what pick is due to compensation picks not awareded) and got Douglas. Assuming Douglas plays the 2 years of his contract (or more) it's more than a fair trade. 

True if he plays this year for the Bills, it's a fair trade.  Speculation based on Beane talking about Douglas in past tense, are the Bills getting ready to release Douglas?  If he gets released, I don't think it was good trade for the Bills.

[Takeaways from Beane's Combine pressers]

27 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I get it but he was a gimp at the end of the season and now he will be 30 years old. We can save $10M off the cap if we release him by March 15.

 

Personally I would still rather extend him to get cap relief and know that our CB situation is in good shape this year. But if we cut him I will take it as a good sign that Beane is prioritizing youth. In a long season culminating in playoffs that is not a bad thing.

Letting Douglas go and promoting Elam to starter seems rather risky to me especially with White recovering from an Achilles.  Perhaps plan A was to extend Douglas but his asking price is too high and plan B is letting him go. 

[Takeaways from Beane's Combine pressers]

25 minutes ago, mrags said:

If we let go of Douglas this staff is outright ridiculous. He was our best defender down the stretch last year. And it wasn’t even close. 

Not to mention we wasted a 3rd rd pick for basically a rental

["John Butler dishes on split with Bills and desire to be ‘in charge’"]

I found it curious to see Babich get interviews as a DC candidate but don't recall Butler receiving any himself.  Butler may have been perceived by other teams as the favorite to get the Bills DC job and therefore didn't draw any interest.  Can't blame Butler for leaving.  He was passed over and that's hard to come to terms especially if you feel you paid your dues and believe you can do it.

[Tasker & Chris Brown on Bills CB’s for 2024]

I think it's Douglas and Benford as CB1 and CB2.  Elam would need a really strong training camp to challenge.  He's probably CB3 though.  White will likely be on IR or PUP to start the season if he's still on the team.  They'll need another CB though whether it's Dane Jackson or someone else.

[Saints - “The bill comes due.”]

Saints need to reset and get a rookie QB and rebuild through the draft.  Too many free agent signings with high dollar contracts has put them in a bind.

[Matt Araiza signs with Chiefs]

13 minutes ago, JMM said:

Seems a bit strange, first of all the timing,  but more importantly they already have a terrific punter in Townsend. So unless they are releasing him for salary issues this signing makes little sense 

Townsend is a free agent

[Gabe Davis: Puts out an Instagram Video…good watch and could be sign he’s leaving]

46 minutes ago, babulator said:

It's kind of mind blowing seeing people make the case for Gabe. He's simply not good enough, all his film and stats and play back this assessment. It's almost as if people have forgot about his limited route tree, his league leading drops, his disappearing acts, all while playing with the leagues best QB while he's putting up astronomical stats. That alone, being unable to get on the same page as Josh says everything. Why would people want to hold Josh back with a guy that just can't seem to get in sync with him? The more I think about it, I just can't seem to come up with any viable argument to pay Gabe to stay on this roster.

Davis also has a very low catch rate, about 55%, and has never had a 50 catch season.  He simply isn't a WR2 and he has outpriced himself in Buffalo.  It only takes one team to think he's a WR2 and he'll be gone.  Good for him and good for Beane for not compounding the salary cap situation.

[Salary cap question, Leonard Floyd’s dead cap]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

I don’t get this.  Didn’t he sign a one year deal?  How is there a cap hit this year?

Voidable years.  Quite a few players have them.  Check out Spotrac for the details.

[Is it time to grow concerned about Greg Rousseau?]

He played hurt last year.  Foot injury.  Not worried about him as long as he healed up.

[First to third round picks used on every position for every NFL team (past 5 years)]

Unfortunately, GunnerBill I believe you're right regarding Allen.  He's willing to do the big things and explosive plays to win the game but he's reluctant to do the little things to win games.  I was hoping he would grow up a little and change his approach and mindset regarding playing QB but I don't believe it's happening.  One thing for sure, he needs more WR help.  Not enough playmakers on offense and too many high picks and money spent on defense.  Don't know if it's Beane or McD but collectively they have dropped the ball in getting Allen enough offensive help.  They did the hardest part, getting a franchise QB, and they keep ***** around in getting him help.