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  1. On 5/4/2021 at 10:59 AM, Big Turk said:

     

    Are they though? Because from where I am sitting they have a pretty bad hit rate overall for as much time and effort and knowledge advantages they have over all the posters...

     

    No offense but if someone does something everyday for a living on a professional basis and has a huge financial backing and lots of other people involved to check and double check their work, I would expect something better than maybe a 10-15% improvement over what an average poster does who just watches a bunch of games and/or highlights in their spare time.

     

    Sometimes I think they suffer from paralysis by analysis where they have too many points of information.

     

     

     Of course they are. The "average" poster looks at how many college players to "evaluate" them???? A dozen, maybe two dozen if they are die hard fans and I think that number is being VERY generous. Not to mention, the "average" poster (myself included) may have an idea on what to look at to evaluate a player, but they haven't got a clue on the actual evaluation process. For example, I know that a quarterback needs to have great footwork especially when dropping back to pass; but I, and most fans couldn't tell you if the QB's footwork is good or bad. Yes I can tell if the QB isn't setting his feet at the point of the throw or if he's throwing off the balls of his feet, but to ask me to tell someone that the actual footwork to get to that point was good or bad.... I'd be staring at you like Homer Simpson would after a lobotomy.    

     

     A professional scouting team looks at 3000 draft eligible players every year, and lets be honest; 90% of them are not elite players and I'd guess that of that 90%, 70% of them are bubble players, the other 30% good enough to have decent careers. That remaining 10% that are elite, are elite in TALENT and these scouts are experts at evaluating talentnot experts at guessing on how these young men will respond psychologically to the pressure of playing at the NFL level. 

     

     I do agree that sometime they suffer from paralysis by analysis. Especially when it comes to the elite of the elite; those top 10 picks type talent, or those once in a generation type talents. For us non professionals.... most of us (or them) are just guessing based on gut feeling and a few TV sports news highlight reels. The pro's, they evaluate some of these guys for days.... weeks or even months evaluating each of the players skills, and their off the field character.

  2. 20 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

    Could be a medical issue that the public is not privy to, could also be something on the tape that jumped out to many pro-scouts as being a big red flag. We don't really know what drives teams evaluations. He caught on with the WFT so he will get his chance in the pros. 

     

    Or.... it could be that the 32 NFL teams front offices are better at evaluating talent than, say.... pretty much every member of this message board and every team message board that exists. 🤷‍♂️ just saying.  

  3. 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

    First step is determining what UFAs we keep, then what UFAs we sign (March 17).  Would like to see a Diggs-like free agent pick up.  Maybe at RB?   
     

    Then draft on April29.    BPA in rounds 1 and 2.   
     

    We really need to draft an impact player on defense.  

    This!

     I would also add if we can, a highly rated FA pickup at DE. Hopefully Star Lotulelei will be back to help plug up the middle like he did in 2019 and not opt out like he did for 2020. Personally, I would also like to see some better run blocking OL-men. Maybe it was scheme related this year but it seems that the 2019 season we ran the ball better. Of course, we also had McCoy then. 

  4. 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said:

    There is no doubt Diggs is going to ask for more money. Deandre Hopkins yearly salary is going to be nearly twice that of diggs. Diggs is going to ask for more money, and based on other contracts he deserves it. I know he has 3 full seasons left, but so did hopkins before his trade. Going to be very tough to afford these two unless the bills ride out Allens contract till his 5th year, which I think is best. 

    Here, I'll explain it to you very simply. They do Incentive laden contracts with Bonuses at a smaller yearly salary. The Salary gets spread out over the number of years of the contract, but the bonuses count against only that year they are given. That keep the yearly salary's manageable while still having the cap space to pay out the bonuses when and if they are met. It's literally how every other NFL team does it. 

     

    That's not even taking into account the fact that these are all "character" guys that buy into the team first philosophy that Bean and McDermott are all about. They want the player like this because as long as they are building a winning team, those types of players will take those types of contract so that they can retain and attract great talent to keep on winning.

  5. 3 hours ago, mjt328 said:

     

    If what you are saying is true, there would be A LOT more uncertainty and nervousness this morning about Patrick Mahomes playing next week.  

    Less than 24 hours ago, following the on-field collision, Mahomes was unable to stand on his own and had a dazed look in his eyes.  The Chiefs later confirmed to CBS reporters that he indeed suffered a concussion, and declared him out... in the midst of a close playoff game.  

    • Andy Reid suggested after the game that Mahomes "passed" concussion protocols, even though that would be impossible so soon.  The NFL requires a 5-step process of gradually increasing activity during the week, while being monitored by doctors.
    • The average length of being out for a concussion is 19 DAYS.

    Following this train of logic, the only person on this planet with the slightest clue whether Mahomes can play is the neurologist examining him.  Not the Chiefs staff.  And even that doctor won't know until the middle of the week, after observing his progress during physical activity.

     

    Further more... based on what we've seen with other (non superstar) players in (non championship) games when it comes to concussions, the odds of Mahomes playing on Sunday is extremely low.  Yet if you listen to the NFL reporters this morning, most are expecting him to play.  Andy Reid clearly expects him to play.  Mahomes himself clearly expects to play.  

     

    The NFL does not care about player safety.  They implemented these concussion rules to avoid another lawsuit.  But if Mahomes and the Chiefs agree to keep this hush-hush behind the scenes, don't doubt for a second that an "independent" doctor wouldn't let him play.  And everyone knows it.

     

     

     That is factually incorrect. They never confirmed that he had a concussion. They only confirmed that he was in concussion protocol and therefore unable to finish the game.

    Also, I am hearing that it ended up being a pinched nerve in the neck which would exude similar symptoms, but also puts his playing up in the air for Sunday. This information would fall in line with Reid's comments after the game when he said he appeared to be doing much better.

     

    I won't argue your point regarding the NFL caring about the players as neither our opinion matters. The just simply differ.

  6. 3 hours ago, TBBills said:

    I doubt the NFL will let a concussion keep Mahomes from playing. He will magically be out of protocol by gameday.

    Respectfully, I have to disagree 1000% on this. They have taken a lot of heat about concussions and concussion protocols. There is no way they will pressure the independent doctor that reviews and tests Mahomes into giving him the go. That doctor would also be committing career suicide to allow it to happen. They let him play and he hasn't actually cleared protocols and then gets hurt even worse the fallout from that will be catastrophic. Especially with it being Mahomes, who is undeniably the face of the NFL right now.  

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  7. 9 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

    Without Allen, Diggs doesnt come here.  Without Allen and Diggs, we are a 9-7 team at best.  Therefore, Allen's AV to me is about 104.

     That's not exactly a mathematical formula but I think I won't disagree that it can't total up his AV to 104. 😂
     
     As someone else mentioned Diggs would still be here as he was traded to Buffalo. One could argue that Bean never makes that trade if it not for the fact that we have Josh Allen. I think that one could even argue that if it not for Diggs JA doesn't take as significant a leap in his game this year; and I won't argue the fact that if not for JA and Diggs connecting over video games before camp the chemistry they share now wouldn't have been there.

     

     All that said, saying we would have been "a 9-7 team at best" is pointless. You would have no idea where we would be.... none of us would. It would be a completely different team. We already had Allen, and he was developing and making progress during and after each season so that puzzle piece was already here. Say we never make that trade for Diggs or someone else ponies up more capital to get him instead of us forcing Bean to go in another direction for a top tier veteran #1 receiver or ending up picking the best receiver available in the draft with their 1st round pick. Do you think Josh would have done anything different as far as trying to connect with that person on a personal level to create that connection and develop that chemistry? Given his character.... I highly doubt it. While that non Diggs player may not have had his veteran experience, he would have at least close to the same level of talent and you can't guess on how he would or at what level he would or could connect with said person that would plug in place of Diggs. So, there is no way to cast such a definitive decision on what this teams record would have been without Diggs.

     

     The best part is that we DO have Diggs and we don't need to think about where this team might have been. All we need to do as fans is focus on is where we are now and let Bean and McDermott worry about where we go tomorrow, next week, next month or next year. 

  8. 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

    I would politely disagree with your contention that the Colts D is as good as the Ravens. The Colts allowed fewer yards and fewer point.

     

    Agreed that Daboll is a weapon, but he was I believe on the team last week as well, as was Allen.

     

    I'm not concluding we're going to lose, of course. But is this a team we should worry about? Yeah, it is.

      It's the playoffs, every team should be at the very least a concern if not a worry. They are in the playoffs for a reason.... they were good enough to get there. To not have some level of concern, in my view; would be foolish.

      Look at last nights Steelers vs Browns game as a prime example. The Browns weren't even allowed to practice until Friday due to COVID. I thought for sure they would walk into Pittsburg and get their a$$e$ absolutely handed to them and get completely trounced by the Steelers. IT was 28-0 at the end of the 1st quarter Browns. I was like..... 😲 holy shiz-nit

     

     

    2 hours ago, CSBill said:

    One simple formula for winning this game: Keep Jackson's running under control. I don't have a magic number, but I would say less than 75 yards. And especially on the scrambles--that is were he really kills teams. Contain the designed runs and the Raven's run game (less than 175 ???), and don't let him go off on long scramble plays. .... That's all 😁

      So basically what we did last year to them, except this year we have an offense that can pretty much score at will? We held Jackson to 40 yards rushing on 11 attempts in that game.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said:

    I wonder if AVP would ever come back to Buffalo, assuming we lose Daboll. I have no clue what his contract with the Browneyes is.

    Why do so many of the Bills Mafia have to rely on nostalgia to bring back former players to coach when we lose a coach or have the possibility of losing one? He's been here as a coach before, from 2006 - 2009 as Offensive Quality Control Coach in 2006 to Offensive Coordinator \ QB Coach in 2009. He was a "just okay" coach. Maybe he is a much better coach now. But, let our front office and head Coach do their jobs to pick who fits in as a coach for this team. We don't need nostalgia to lead us. We need leaders that can teach the game of football. That's why McD's worked out so well. He picked great minded coaches who know how to teach their systems and the fundamentals of football. 

  10. 6 minutes ago, Buftex said:

    Maybe better than Singletary, but only by a hair.  Remember how good Singletary was last year?  He (and perhaps Moss too) just don't seem to be getting a lot of opportunities.  From my armature eye though, I think Singletary hits the hole a little better...not trying to trash Moss, he has had moments, I just envisioned him being a little more of a bruiser...Singletary's game (when he was going good) is a little craftier.   

     Agreed. Last year Singletary did play better than this year. I know what you mean by him being a little more "craftier". Maybe it was just an off year or something that they did different in scheme that caused it. Not sure. I am certainly no expert either. Hopefully the run game picks up a bit more in the playoffs. We can't afford to be one dimensional. 

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  11. Not for anything here but one thing that may play a factor for Daball is that he is from this area, he loves the area and had been waiting for an opportunity that allowed him to come back to the area. While i may be reaching here, he may not want to leave. Just a thought. Plus Sean McD. could promote him to Assistant Head Coach like they did when they hired Fraiser. He is the Defensive Coordinator but doesn't he have the title of D Coordinator\Assistant Head Coach?

  12. On 12/31/2020 at 10:44 AM, Shaw66 said:

     

    I'm so in love with Allen, I'm hopeless.   I have to defend Allen against these "chip-on-the-shoulder" claims.   Yes, I know that when asked, Allen has said he'd like to prove some people wrong, but I don't think he's driven by that.   Allen is driven simply by wanting to be good.   I think he's pure, good-natured competitor, without the edge.   There's no hate, no nastiness in the guy. 

     

    Aaron Rodgers is the guy with the chip on the shoulder.  He's been very frank about it for years.   He's perpetually pissed off that other teams didn't take him and pissed off that the Packers sat him for three years.   There are plenty of reports about the fact that some, even many, of his teammates don't like him.   HE's quick to blame others.   I don't say any of that to dismiss his greatness - it's taken me a long time to recognize it, but he is one of a very few true greats.   His decision making, his quick delivery and arm strength, his accuracy, his running ability, everything, is superb.  But he's not very likable.  Even his State Farm ads show his tendency to lord it over others, when he throws the tennis ball out of sight or hits his driver on the run, both actions being done to show up Jake.  

     

    Allen doesn't have that edge about him.  He's not motivated to prove people wrong.  He's motivated simply because he's always been motivated.  He was born that way or raised that way.   He was a great student in high school, and a great, motivated athlete.   He didn't go to junior college to prove anyone wrong - he went because he wanted to play, and it was the highest level of competition that wanted him.  He didn't go to Wyoming to prove anyone wrong - he went because he wanted to paly and it was the highest level that wanted him.   He didn't come to Buffalo to prove anyone wrong - he came because he wanted to play at the highest level.   He doesn't plan with anger.   He rarely, if ever, says "I told you so."  He just wants to play, and play well.  

     I whole heartedly agree that JA is all of those things you say he is. The fact is though, that he has been told he wasn't good enough. Especially so, that he wasn't good enough to be a franchise QB in the NFL (by so called experts). That he wasn't accurate enough.

     

     I find it hard to believe that that doesn't put a "chip on his shoulder"..... at some level, it has to. It's not a bad thing, not at all. He can have that "chip on his shoulder" and still be all those things you said he is. He just internalizes it to motivate himself to be the best player he can be. Maybe saying that it "pissed him off" is more of a misnomer and saying that it aggravated him enough is more accurate; to work that much harder, or put in that extra study time.... or whatever it is that he has done for himself to take that next step in his evolution as a player to make himself an elite player. 

     

     As for Rogers...... agreed. I've read enough and see enough people talk about him to know you are right about him. That dude is an a-hole 🤣

  13. Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

     

     

    That is all true plus our defense was near its bottom.  I have read the stories about Milano, Edmonds and Tre White were all banged up for a while but I am still amazed how the defense has turned around.

    Agreed. I wouldn't say i am "scared" of the Titans as a team to play..... more like nervous. LOL! They have to get past the Colts first but beyond that, none of the other teams outside of the Titans make me nervous for our Bills. Not the Ravens or the Chiefs, and certainly not Cleveland or the Colts.

  14. Honestly... I would rather play the Steelers than the Titans. That said, I'm not really what to think about playing the Titans again. The last time we played them, we didn't know for sure who we were going to be playing and had to game plan on a short time frame. We got crushed... but we're not the same team that we were then either. Their Defense is mediocre at best of that Henry is an absolute beast and very tough to stop in the run game.

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  15. 9 hours ago, Buftex said:

    I know it was garbage time (for us), but Williams ran the ball like I was envisioning Moss to run it this year.  I realize, Williams is a little bigger than Moss, but he ran with power.  Moss is still kind of a mixed bag for me.

    As much as I think Moss struggled to gain yards at times, I still think he performed better than Singletary did this year. Our o-line needs to do better in run blocking schemes. Pass blocking they are ridiculously good. JA some weeks can sit back in the pocket and literally make a loaf of bread he has so much time and open space protecting him. 

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