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Hopefully Schwartz took a look at Pettines playbook and adopted some of it. He doesnt have to be pettine but he should be open minded enough to consider expanding his playbook from ten years ago.

Nobody is bashing anyone. Just raising some concerns. Didnt say Schwartz was the anti christ. Last I checked hes not best buds with Marylin Manson. Lets just calm down people. I love the Bills as much as you. I hope we get 60 sacks and give up 50 yds a game on the ground this year. Then my concerns will fade away. I think your over reacting just a bit.

I just did.

Actually your missing my point on a couple fronts. The concern about the 4-3 on my end is that we dont have the personnel for a traditional 4-3. We did not run a traditional 4-3 last year. Schwartz didnt run a hybrid scheme when he was in Detroit or Tennessee. My second concern is that Schwartz success asa d-coordinator goes back 5-10 years. This game changes quickly as we and Dave Wannstadt learned the hard way. I dont care what scheme they run so long as it fits the personel of this team and I think you need another DE( 6'4' 280 lbs type player) to run Schwartzs scheme. I also dont buy into this we have to learn to beat people one on one. The game has changed. Scheming is more important than ever to get to the QB. The days of lining them up and rushing everyone straight up the field are over unless you have elite talent. I think we have some pretty solid players but not the kind where you can just send 4 guys straight up the field and expect to get to the QB. Pettine was a master at creating mismatches. That shouldnt be ignored. Not saying Schwartz is terrible, just voicing concerns over some of his comments. He sounds just like Wannstadt did when he got the job(from a philosophical stand point).

When they first hired Schwartz I thought it was a good move. Then he switched to a 4-3(even though we dont have two dolid DE's to justify that move) and started talking about how scheme is less important and you need your guys to win one on one battles. He is starting to remind me way to much of Dave Wannstadt. Somebody put my mind at ease and tell me why I shouldnt expect this defense to drop back into the 20's where it usually is.

If EJ becomes a successful starter it may change the way the league develops QB's. The trend right now seems to be one and done. In the good old days (yea, I sound like my grandfather) a QB sat for 3 or 4 years and came in when he was ready. Not saying you should sit a QB for three years but one year of sitting and a little more effort to build a team around your rookie qb(like the Bills are doing) seems like a better plan than casting a guy off if he doesnt throw for 3500+ yards with 20+ tds his rookie year. It took 4 years for the k-gun to take off. That was a combination of adding more talent and JK getting experience.

Cancel it. That would be my move.

Reminds me of those women who dress like street walkers and then complain when all the guys are staring at them at the local watering hole. I love a pretty woman but I probably spend about a minute looking at the cheerleaders during a game. Maybe its time to pull the plug on this sophmoric tradition.

Something Kelly wasnt very good at(winning) his first few years in the league until he had more talent around him and more experience. One thing im sure of is EJ wont fail due to lack of effort. He has the work ethic and the character needed to succeed in this league. Time will tell if that is enough. Certainly are enough people out there who have already written him off. Of course they are the same people who write pretty much everything off. Whether its football or life in general. Bit of a stretch to call those stats similar.

Ebron has plenty of holes in his game. Hes a great prospect but he certainly isnt a cant miss. According to your logic we should forfeit all our picks because you can find a bust in every round at every position over the history of the draft so lets play it safe and just not draft anyone. That way nobody we draft will bust because we wont pick anyone to bust.

I would stay downtown. The Chippewa Strip rocks on the weekend. It would be the place I would go fri/sat. The casino is ok if your a gambler. Its nothing special. Definitely would not stay near the stadium if your looking at a multiple night stay. Stadium parking lot is the place to be game day. Big Tree inn would be good after the game. Its a 5 min walk from the stadium. Typical hole in the wall watering hole but a good time. As for tickets stubhub is good if you want to play it safe. You should be able to get something between the twenties for 100 a piece if your patient. Id wait till thurs or fri to buy the seats. You can also try ticketmaster on wednesday. The Bills usually get returns from the visiting team and put them back out for sale on wed or thurs. Also NFL ticket exchange. Could also try craigslist for tix though i find those people are a little delusional on what they think their tix are worth. Id wait till sat if your go craigslist. bottom line on tix is you should get really good seats if your patient and are willing to pay 100-125 a piece. Dont pay that for endzone. The scalper market here is usually pretty reasonable. I agree with others who say stay away from the endzone and the upperdeck if your rooting for the Pack. The biggest jerks are usually in the endzone and the upper deck.

Could be a great pick. I put very little stock in what people like Kiper say. Why dont we go back ten years and look at the hair's prior bigboards(over the past ten years). Half those guys arent even in the league anymore. Martin could be a ten time pro bowler. Ebron could be a heroin addict. Ever think about that one?

The RT issue is such an interesting debate. Ten years ago center was the ugly step child and all I head was how you could get a center anywhere. Five years ago it was guard. You can get a guard anywhere(right, Colin Brown fans?), they said. Now RT is allegedly the unimportant position on the o-line. My Question is this? Your in the Superbowl.The guy across from your RT is a five time pro bowler who had fifteen sack season. Don't you want the best athlete possible at RT? I dont mean that from the standpoint of wanting your best o-lineman to be RT. I think LT is still the glamour position on the o-line. BUT. In a perfect world don't you want five pro bowlers on your o-line? And, if at 9, the best player avail by far is RT, and you are looking to draft an RT, why then wouldn't you draft one? All I heard last year before the season started was how the Bills didn't put a lot of weight in the guard position. Then came the disaster known as Colin Brown. I guess they should have put more weight into that position after all. If Matthews, Lewan, or Robinson is there i think you take one of them.

The tactic you mentioned is also a favorite of Mike Schopp's. Gutless third rate journalism at its worst. "Heaven forbid we're wrong on something so lets CYA with fifteen different opinions on one topic". Nice try Jerry. Pretending to be someone else. We see right through you.

I hope its a billion because I would fully expect someone local to match that. Especially if the state is prepared to build a new stadium for the team or do the soldier field facelift like they did in chicago. The Bills were valued at over 800 million not to long ago. That amount(one billion) shows me a certain level of uncertainty about the NFL's willingness to allow the team to relocate. I don't think anyone wants to pay 1.5 billion and then find out they can't move the team. I don't think 1.5 billion would be overpaying if you where certain you could relocate to a major market. I dont agree. If Pegula bought this team for 1 billion now. He could probably sell it for 2 billion in ten years. Thats a 6% rate of return. Not saying he would sell it just saying I think a pro football team is a hell of an investment if you can afford one. This team is worth a billion here. Especially if they build a new stadium. In a major market its probably worth 1.5 billion.

Mayock had it right pre draft on EJ. Very Raw. Would require a team that is willing to work with him. That takes more than ten games.

This is exactly right. If EJ bombs this year(I dont think he will if they get him more help) then trade your entire draft next year. QB looking much stronger in next years draft. Every QB in this draft has at least one major flaw. No Andrew Luck in this years draft. Given the number of other holes we have and the depth in this draft at some of our key needs (Tackle, Guard, WR) and the mediocre QB class (just because 5 or 6 guys are getting pushed up into round one as oppossed to the usual 2 or 3 doesnt make it a great QB class) this is not the year to trade up.

Ebron will be the biggest bust since Ryan 'Cryin' Leaf

No actually my argument doesnt support your view at all. In the least. Not even remotely. Using the Redskins as an example of doing anything right is like trying to point to something Charles Manson says or does as being right. Last pro sports franchise on the planet I would be using to back up an argument.

I wouldnt call it faith, I would call it patience. Having watched pro football for over forty years Ive seen many QB's improve dramatically from year one to year two. Ive also seen many stay the same and many get worse. Andrew Lucks completion percentage jumped 6.1 percent from year one to year two. Major improvement. Not saying EJ is a five time pro bowler or that hes Andrew Luck. Point is many young QB's struggle in their first year. Everybody seems to want to ignore that little fact but its the truth. Yes you can find examples of young QBs having great first years but those are not the rule, they are the exception. I think many who arent ready to throw EJ under the bus just yet also arent ready to declare him the next Joe Montana. I give him this year. If he doesnt progress dramatically(like say a 6.1 percent improvement in accuracy) then its time to draft another QB high (which again will guarantee us nothing other than going through this all over again). Your all 22 point is interesting but im going to make some counter points. Leaving plays on the field happens to all QB's. Even Brady. Even Rodgers. Even Montana.(greatest ever IMO. Joe Cool). First year qb's need to learn to read defenses at this level and they usually need two or even three seasons to develop real chemistry with teammates. A receivers route is often dictated by the defense. If the QB and receiver dont see the same thing the play breaks down. Last year two of our receivers where rookies. They where just as much in the dark as EJ was. Same for our offensive coordinator(who I think did a pretty good job given what he had to work with and how little time hes had so far to work with it so far). Going back to the JK days that offense was pretty abysmal his first 4 years. It wasnt till Andre and thurman got some experience and we added lofton that the K-Gun became the the K-Gun. 4 years. Quite frankly i think teams are too impatient these days with developing qb's. Defenses are more complex than ever and usually teams that are drafting high enough to get a shot at a marquee qb usually dont have alot of talent to support him. Thats why I have some patience. I can see the physical gifts EJ has. More importantly he has the work ethic. Ive heard numerous comments about his work ethic from teammates(past and present)and coaches(past and present). EJ has the reputation for being the first guy to arrive for the work day and the last guy to leave. Which is what is really expected of all the top QBs in the league. Get him some more talent. Give him time to learn. Give him time to work on his accuracy(it can improve, see Andrew luck). If the light bulb goes totally on we may have something special. As Ive said before, ten games isnt enough to fully evaluate a young QB.

Much better prospect. There is no RGIII in this draft. These qbs are alot closer to last years draft than they are to Luck and Griffin III. Jury is still out on Griffin BTW. Injuries. Problems with his coach and him getting along. Wouldnt put him in canton just yet. Next years college QB class looks stronger. Id be all for moving up next year if EJ flames out. No QB in this draft class is worthy of giving up multiple # 1s for.

I dont like the thought of burning a high pick on another QB when we still have plenty of holes. The Bills scouted this guy and decided he was worth a 1st round pick. Be committed and build around him. The book on Manuel was that he was one of the most talented QB's last year, but was raw. As Ive said before. New rookie coordinator. Young receiving corps. Sub par o-line. Average to below average TE. As they get better, EJ will get better. Jim Kelly was average at best his first four years here. Add lofton and get reed and thomas some experience and the 1990 bills offense evolves into one of the best. Not to mention the improvements they made on the o-line in his first four years.

Casserly should worry more about getting a new toupee. That rug he's got now is atrocious. He clearly didnt like Ej when the Bills drafted him because nobody could be that down on a QB after just ten starts.

I think this league has gotten absolutely ridiculous when it comes to developing quarterbacks. I know the college game is far more advanced offensively than it was twenty years ago but NFL offenses and defenses are more complex than ever. Yet we expect rookies to come in immediately and perform like ten year vets. I dont know how Manuel will wind up but its way to early to call it a day on him. Sub par o-line. Average to Below average tight ends. Below average receiving core(because of their youth). Your best RB was hurt all year plus a rookie coordinator and for some inexplicable reason many feel anything less than 40 tds 10 ints 4500 yards and a 70% completion percentage was unacceptable. This year is key. If he can get his completion percentage above 60, throw for 25 tds and keep the ints below fifteen and throw for at least 3500 yards that will be progress. Those are comparable to Russell Wilsons numbers last year. Buffalo runs an offense that is much closer to seattle and san fran than denver. If he throws for more than 4000 yards with the others numbers being around the same as above it will be a phenomenal seaon for him. Would also like the yards per attempt get above 7. If there isnt significant improvement this year thats a problem and your probably going to want to draft someone again next year. Lets see. Lazy disinterested drug addicted bust vs. EJ. Real solid comparison. Typical EJ hater comment. Ill bet you'd love him if he was getting in bar fights and had a dozen domestic battery convictions. Dan Marino is the only one I can think of and as we all know that candy a$$ never won a superbowl.

If you want to compete with Sanfran and Seattle you better have an o-line on par with the 92 Cowboys. Thats right. I said it. 92 Cowboys. One of the best o-lines of all time. Getting matthews or lewan would help accomplish that. Im fine with o-line in the first. The Mike Williams signing should get us by for the upcoming year at wr. Draft a receiver in the 3rd or 4th and develop him. Would also like a guard and rb somewhere in rounds 2-4.