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  1. If the receiving team scores a TD and makes the extra point, the worst that can realistically happen is that they are either tied in a game where the next score wins or they have to stop a 2 pointer.  If the opponent scores and opts to kick for 1, then the receiving team has the advantage.  If they score a FG and can hold the other team to a FG they gain a huge advantage.  The only advantage for the kicking team is knowing what they have to do and possibly having 4 downs.  SF failed in the game, but the rules are pretty even between kicking and receiving, maybe slightly favoring receiving.  
     

    SF can blame their loss on being outcoached several times in or near the red zone.

    1 minute ago, Simon said:

     

    I think they punt

    It also changes what they might have called in third down.

    12 minutes ago, sullim4 said:

     

    The one reason - if it goes to a third possession, it's sudden death and if you score you win.

     

    That's the only reason why I can think you'd do it.

    And that is an absolutely huge reason.

  2. 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I’m not putting him right in the HOF. I believe that his floor is Amari Cooper. That’s what makes him such an incredible prospect. His ceiling is one of the best ever. His floor is a top 8(ish) WR. That’s why he’s different.

     

    Again, they aren’t going to be able to go get him. I would support it though if they did. I think that would t them over the top. There are other moves that could work out as well obviously. 

    Well if you have Amari Cooper in the top 8 ish that is……interesting.

  3. 25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I believe that there is virtually ZERO risk in can’t miss guys. MHJ is that. Jalen Reagor isn’t his comp 😂😂. You know that. Ja’Mar Chase is probably the closest. Calvin, Fitz, Julio and AJ Green are the only others that I can think of thought of like him.

    Who said he was can’t miss? He was a flawed prospect with good tools. The same as Josh, Mahomes and Darnold.

    I never made a comp of Harrison to Raegor.  The point was that Raegor, Ruggs and Jeudy were all taken before Justin Jefferson meaning the experts get it wrong sometimes.

     

    If you’re putting a guy in the HOF before his career starts, you may turn out correct. Or maybe not. Emphatically stating that nothing else can happen is something that has been proven wrong over and over again in sports, financial markets, weather forecasting and world history.  But you be you I guess.

     

     

  4. 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Lol, what? You didn’t prove anything other than you asked the wrong questions. You asked questions and got factual answers dispelling the narrative you were trying to push through. You then declared victory 😂😂

    Did you not say the draftniks are now impervious?  Let’s loop back after we’re done watching Trubisky win another Super Bowl for the Bears.

  5. 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I said that he had the second highest yardage total of any rookie TE ever. Where’s the lie?

    You said can’t miss guys don’t miss.

     

    I proved you wrong.

     

    You then said modern scouting has become infallible.

     

    I proved you wrong.

     

    You then shifted to top 10 scouting being infallible.

     

    I proved you wrong.

     

    You then changed the definition of “miss”.

     

    But you’re right, we should trade half our team and draft picks for two years because Harrison can’t miss.

     

     

  6. 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    After the 3rd or 4th time you prove @4merper4mer points incorrect in a given thread you realize there's no convincing him and he's probably just trolling. 

    He keeps changing his standards just like you but congrats on the Yankees awesome 2023 season.

  7. Just now, Dr. Who said:

    He hasn't exactly had a competent QB in Atlanta, not to mention the offensive prowess of Arthur Smith is somewhat questionable.

    All true and that can also happen to Harrison or anyone else.  With that said, Pitts was still can’t miss……and missed.

  8. 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Was the second rookie TE (behind only Dirka) to go over 1,000 yards? What do I win?

    So you’re saying Kyle Pitts has lived up to expectations?  Gotcha.  Thanks for the honest discussion.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    ….”and Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant and is starting in the Super Bowl.” 😂😂

     

    I gave you an over under on MHJ as a rookie. Feel free to GO ON RECORD with your prediction of his rookie year. Don’t talk about it be about it. 
     

    No one said anything about “pre-ordained.” Here are some things that WILL happen. Caleb Williams will be a very good pro. He will be a top 10-12 guy by 2025. MHJ will be a top 10-12 WR as a rookie. Travis Hunter will be a really good pro when he comes out after next season. Wembanyama will be dominant as he fills out. Etc…

    What do the following players have in common?

    Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Raegor?

     

  10. 15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    It’s a 🔥🔥🔥take to say that he will be the 5th or 6th best WR in the class 😂. That’s absurd. He’s 80 catches, 1,200 yards and 8 TDs when he gets off the bus as a rookie. If you read that report, he’s the highest graded WR that Pro Football Outsiders (who I think we all respect) has ever scouted.
     

    In case you hadn’t noticed, scouting has evolved quite a bit in recent times 😂😂. Technology and analytics have changed things quite a bit from when Brien Taylor and Tony Mandarich were prospects 😂😂. I get it now. There’s an older generation that questions “can’t miss” because they remember things 30+ years ago. That’s not what happens anymore. When someone is “can’t miss” in 2024, you don’t miss. 
     

    Andrew Luck was can’t miss. He was elite for a short period of time. If you say, “yeah but Trevor Lawrence on here” you can find my takes dating back to college when I said that he was the most overrated prospect that I had seen. When you brought up random failures from 30 years ago I dismissed your opinion. 

    Lol ok.  If everything is pre-ordained as you say why don’t you tell us all the next five Super Bowl, World Series and Kentucky Derby winners?  Or just keep the info for yourself and make $$$$$$$$$$?

     

    Andrew Luck was “elite” until the game was on the line, but let’s not let facts and actual results get in the way.  If you want something more recent maybe you recall the phrase “wrong Josh”.  How did that one work out?  Would you say Lamar Jackson is having a better career than Sam Darnold?

     

    Evan Carter wasn’t on any top prospect lists except for the Rangers.  Guess who just helped them win the World Series?   He hadn’t cracked Baseball America’s top 500!  Modern scouting isn’t perfect.

     

    https://www.mlb.com/rangers/news/featured/how-evan-carter-became-the-rangers-second-round-draft-pick-in-2020

     

     

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  11. 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Lol, we have reached the 🔥🔥take portion of the thread. I’ve seen every snap of his college career. He’s generational and a lock. Again, they almost certainly can’t get that high but don’t be ridiculous on MHJ. You lose credibility. 
     

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/marvin-harrison-draft-scouting-2024/

    This is the exact notion that I’m challenging. I’m obviously using an extreme example but I don’t agree at all. If the Bills hit big on WR, whatever else they do won’t move the needle. They should swing big, whether they trade up or take 2 in the 1st three rounds.
     

    In order to pass KC (and others) you have to outgun them. You have to trade scores. The Bills have proven over and over that they can’t get the late stop. Instead of worrying about that, score more points and it won’t matter. if you have a top 15ish defense (which they always do) that’s good enough. You will win because of Josh, nothing else. Give him everything that he needs and then worry about whatever else. 

    It’s now a 🔥🔥take to avoid trading half the team and half of our value in the next two drafts for one guy?  I think you have that backwards.

     

     Generational lock lol.  Like Andrew Luck and Brien Taylor I suppose.  Tony Mandarich?  Ricky Williams?  No one is a lock except for in hyperbole and Harrison has issues tracking the ball which will need to be addressed when he’s not facing Purdue or Northwestern.  I’m not saying he is going to be bad and hopefully he doesn’t get accused of shooting anybody like dad but you’re just being silly.

  12. 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    The Bills need to stop worrying about minor holes or future problems. They aren’t losing to KC because of OT depth. They need to start outgunning people. If they are going to win a Super Bowl it is because of Josh Allen and his weapons.
     

    They aren’t built like Baltimore or SF. This isn't meant to be a balanced roster that would be a borderline playoff team with Kyle Allen. They’re more like the KC teams of the last 6 years. They go as Allen goes. Upgrading at WR is more important than the next 4 biggest needs combined. 
     

    You re-sign Rapp, Shaq, Jones and Dodson. You can afford that. You fill out the rest of your roster/depth with the remainder of the draft. 

    Trade half your roster and next two drafts for the most overrated WR in the history of the draft?  Brilliant.  He will be decent and have about the 5th or 6th best WR career of this draft class.  This dude ain’t Ken Griffey Jr.  

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  13. 8 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

    We Bills Fans have become quarterback snobs, haven't we? We are slamming Tua as if he is garbage and while he is not an elite qb, he is more than twice as good as anything we had between the years of 1997 and 2017. 

     

    I mean we are looking back at JP Losman, Trent Edwards, a finished Drew Bledsoe, Tyrod Taylor, Fitz, Rob Johnson, Todd Collins and Doug Flutie (who may have been the best of this sorry bunch).

     

    Looking back at that sad list, in those days we would have welcomed Tua, no?

     

     

    If he’s twice as good as Fitz, why was he benched for……….Fitz?

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