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  1. Nice spin.

    Actually saw this band during my undergrad days. They played a concert in our campus gym. Fun show.

     

    However, I'm not sure you know what "spin" means. I answered the posters original question, gave reasoning, and explained my position. "To Spin" when answering a question is something entirely different than what I did,

     

    Good Video though....thanks for the trip down memory lane.

  2. The original question was woud the Bills have been better off keeping Fitzy....the answer is still yes.

     

    Tyrod is the first QB the Bills have had that is better than Fitzy. He would have been better than or equal to (Orton....but I would take Fitz), than every QB the Bills have started since he left until Tyrod.

     

    He would be a better backup to Tyrod than EJ...he may have fared better than EJ in those two starts this season.

     

    This does not mean Fitzy would be the QB to take a team to the playoffs. In fact there are probably 20 teams in the NFL these past four seasons who had a better starting QB than Fitzy.

     

    Until this season, the Bills weren't one of them. With Tyrod they finally have a starting QB better than Fitz.

     

    How could they not have been better off keeping him? Most teams in the NFL would have been worse off to keep him. The brutal truth is the Bills have been (prior to this season) so bad at the games most important position that they actually would have been one of the few teams in the league better off keeping Fitz. I agree....that's painful....but true.

  3. I have been to NASCAR races in Taladega, Alabama. Over 100,000 fans, 3 day tailgate, RVs everywhere, partying around the clock. I have seen stripper poles on trailer hitches (in use!), cookouts, beer pong, and endless bonfires. But not once did I ever see anything quite like that video.

     

    And if we poured our moonshine on him, he for sure would have gone up in flames!

  4. that's nice in theory. The revisionist history is that there was a phone call made public by Nix that said they didn't want him. They also had to draft a QB because of how bad he was. He was making too much for a backup and if you start him again while you develop EJ or whatever you are looking at another losing season - probably, since that was all he ever had. Plus he would have been without Chan, and with Marrone. No one knows how much worse he would have been. It's all a hypothetical but if you go back to when the decision had to be made and then what transpired in reality afterward... I say no, they would not have been better off. Maybe 7-9 or 8-8 instead of 6-10 in 2013 at best? Maybe they don't get Sammy? It's way too pie in the sky so can't really say yes, for sure.

    My post on previous page is about organizational competence for the Bills. The Nix years were not high on the competence scale. There has not been a QB on this roster since Fitz was cut loose better than Fitz...until Tyrod.

     

    We can respectfully disagree, but my prior post had as much to do with the fact that a competent organization would have kept Fitz as he was relatively cheap, durable, and serviceable while the Bills kept looking for his successor. Keeping Fitz would have been a decision made by a competent front office (not one run by Buddy Nix). A competent front office then would mean the Bills are better off as a franchise now.

  5. No. The revisionist history is amazing. He was brutal the last year he was here. Good for him for reviving his career - he found a good spot to do so and he seems like a nice guy. But he was not even close to being good after he got paid here. Even Houston is better without him and they are on their 4th QB this year.

    The question was would the Bills be better. And yes, Fitzy was average, to sometimes streaky good, to sometimes just awful. No revisionist here. However, given the QB nightmare up until Tyrod this season the Bills would have been better off keeping Fitz, while simultaneously trying to upgrade the QB position.

     

    Instead they made the position worse while trying to upgrade the position. Which the Bills finally did this year with Tyrod.

     

    Without a doubt I would rather have Tyrod going forward over Fitz. However, the Bills could have kept Fitz, been better off the past 2 seasons and had Fitz available when Tyrod got hurt this year. Fitz would be an upgrade over all of the Bills backups this year and may have been the difference in the games Tyrod missed due to injury.

  6. Yes....absolutely. We released Fitz and signed Kevin Kolb to play while EJ developed and we all remember how that turned out.... Manuel was thrown in the lineup too early after 2 left feet slipped and fell, was injured and last year was replaced with Kyle Orton (both situations ruined his development and confidence). These problems could have been solved by giving Fitz an extra year or 2 in a new system, and if Manuel wasnt ready in 2014, Im sure Fitz with Watkins and Woods would have been better than Orton was.

     

    I couldn't agree more.

     

    Keeping Fitz would have meant that The Bills had organizational competence in the front office in how to handle the most important position on the field. Instead we were at one point treated to a season of 1. EJ 2. Jeff Tuel. 3. Thad Lewis. No significant NFL experience and no veteran among them.

     

    Fitz was a better QB than Kolb at that time, more durable, and a team leader. And yes, Fitzy's contract seemed expensive when compared to jobs that aren't NFL QB (like teacher, lawyer, Doctor, CEO of a company), but for a starting QB in the NFL it was still reasonable and a good value,

     

    Then The Bills were forced to bring Orton out of retirement and we had watch him play, because EJ was not up to the level of starting NFL QB.

     

    Not keeping Fitz, not properly managing the QB position through the draft (over drafting EJ out of desperation), and then not having a durable veteran available to help develop EJ, Tuel, Thad and now Tyrod was The Bills height of inept decision making. And this is a very tall mountain these past 18 years !

     

    In a nation of 320+ million people, we produce 32 starting NFL QB's. Of those 32, 15 teams have a great to "good enough" player at that position. Fitz was and is borderline "good enough". The play at QB (with the exception of Tyrod this year) has been far from "good enough" for the Bills since they cut Fitz loose.

     

    The Bills would have been better off with him, but were too poorly run during the Dobahie/ Marv/ Nix years to have known to keep him.

  7. The defensive schemes utilized in the second New England game (and the opener vs the Colts) were what many fans thought the defense would look like all year. As a fan, it's great fun to watch. As a strategy it seemed to work very well in those two contests. Yes, Brady exploited the fact that Rambo went out and abused Williams for the winning TD.

     

    Against KC they don't pressure Alex Smith because they are afraid of being beaten by his legs. Yet, when Tyrod runs we all hold our breath hoping he doesn't get hurt. My guess, is that Alex Smith takes a few hits that game if we pressured him and he decided to run. After a few hits, maybe he doesn't run so well anymore? Would have been interesting to see how brining the heat played out that game. Sitting back and letting Alex Smith pick us apart was painful to watch.

  8. I used to say that I want to watch the Bill in the SB with my dad 1 more time before he dies.

     

     

    Now I am being realistic and saying I just want to watch a playoff game with him

     

     

     

    CBF

    5 years ago my Dad, and fellow Buffalo Bills lifelong fan, was dying from terminal cancer. During one of our conversations in those final weeks my Dad said "it sucks that I don't have enough time left to see the Bills win a Super Bowl"

     

    I replied: " Dad, I don't think any of us have enough time left to see the Bills win a Super Bowl".

     

    We had a good laugh

  9. Picking up the yardage with his feet to move the chains on 3rd downs was fantastic to watch. Won't show up in QB ratings, but is a real back breaker for the opposing defense.

     

    His accuracy today was pin point.

     

    I can't comment on read progressions as I don't have the all 22, but it's the best QB play for the Bills in a long time!

  10. But every game is different. Other times we came out throwing every play and went right down the field. This is really the first game we have had a healthy McCoy and Karlos. Next week against the Jets we may be throwing the ball all over the field. I think this offense has been very versatile when we have had Watkins and McCoy/Karlos at the same time. I don't think you can count the games that EJ played without Watkins and McCoy hurting and Karlos out. That is not the team we have or the offense we run. We can run and we can pass with our starters. I don't think the game plan was to rarely pass and play ground and pound. We just never had to pass much and when we did we burnt them deep a couple times.

     

     

    It was great to see the offense healthy (except Harvin) and watch Greg Roman call a game that was damn near fantastic!

    It might be a different attack all together against the NYJ on Thursday. Having the weapons available allows for a variety of offensive game plans week to week.

  11. By having a lack of legitimate top tier NFL talent throughout their roster the Bills coaches and front office had to take risks with draft picks, trades, and free agents. Some shortcomings of injury history (Harvin), history of team conflict (Incognito...who IMO was never as big a problem as made out to be), legal troubles (Dareus, Bradham, Karlos Williams), critical thinking skills (Watkins as evidenced by his choice to engage in social media conflict with knucklehead fans, Seantrel Henderson with his off field college choices), and lack of proven starting ability (Tyrod Taylor) forced the Bills into a very tough place regarding personnel these past two off seasons.

     

    As the Bills have less holes to fill, they will be able to bring in players that are more complete in regards to mental, physical and legal attributes.

     

    Until then giving a super talent like Harvin a one year deal to see if he can perform is a great option. It's not as if the Bills had a player of his talent that they had to cut to sign him. Hopefully, by next year they have the depth of talent that makes having to take some of these calculated risks less often.

     

    Go Bills!

  12. Haha- yeah Whaley is the best young GM in football right now. Mark it down. He finds talent, period.

    1. Karlos Williams and Darby are looking like two fantastic draft picks.

    2. Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes was genius

    3. Charles Clay is a great all around TE, and a solid FA acquisition

    4. Signing Percy Harvin and Incognito with something to prove was genius.

    5. And Tyrod looks like the real deal.....the first time that can be said for the Bills in a long time

     

    Thanks for posting Bill!

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