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Awe the old campfire defense, what many ignorant smokers like to use. There are reasons smokers get a bad rep, I'm guessing you are one of them. Read the list of poisons in you smokes, how many of those things are in my firewood?

If you read my posts I said don't blow it in my face. I don't walk by the smoking areas and I don't expect people to walk up to me, when I was already there and light up. Your analogy about the car is to stupid to respond to.

I don't care about intent, you do not have the right to poison me. I camp every weekend in the summer, that I chose to do. I smell fine when I come home, I shower.

Ever been on a subway platform? lots of open space and some idiot lights up right next to you and blows a big puff of smoke right in your face. It happens. i have never seen a man die before, ever. Does that mean that men don't die?

Smoke all you want, don't blow it in my face or offer it to my kids and I'm cool. You have the right to smoke and I have the right not to.

Man, I just can't fathom the **** that goes on in larger cities. I come from a small city in Ontario (close to 60,000 people) and there hasn't been a murder here since 1997 I believe. We are certainly not without crime, but not the crazy killing of each other.

jw, you have been reading too many crayonz posts, you should take a break. (not a TG break, but a break). I am concerned.

That's fair.

Exactly, it's Rick Nash, it's worth about the same either way.

I would also use the "C", just a different word.

Do you mean why isn't it being discussed?

I can forgive, no biggie.

I'm sure you are correct in the legalities of the use of the taser in this situation. I guess my problem is with the policy that makes it ok in to use the taser in this case.

Did you see him at the NFL draft, the guy was F'd up. (or coming off of one hell of a night). If this is proven, lock him up for a long time.

You are correct, a bogus arrest to boot. But hey, I was a witness who helped put away a cop on extortion (and other) charges. The prick got 49 months of paid "leave" (on my dime) before he was sentenced. So you will have to forgive me if I don't buckle at the knees when a cop tells me to do something. the second bolded part; that could be fun.

Happy B-day old man. I remember when I turned the big "35" , well most of it anyway.

Of course you are right, you are a cop after all.

Yep.

No, then the resist arrest charge is added and that is dealt with in court as well. their job is to arrest me, not punish me.

I do have children and I would do what ever was necessary to protect them. But I can't assume everyone on the streets is a child molester and overreact. There are plenty of dangerous people in the world, but we can't tackle every East Indian guy with a backpack on running for the subway, just in case. I'm no hippie. Just someone who believes in people's rights.

Because when you break the law, the consequences come on your day in court, not during your arrest.

Like I said earlier, every situation is different. I think in this case it should have been handled the same way these types of situations have been handled in the past and the same as it was handled the next night. I think any reasonable human being could see that this was a jackass kid screwing around waving a towel over his head, not a gun. I want cops not to treat tasers as a quick fix. Not "!@#$ it tase the punk and toss him in the car". I'm sure there are plenty of times where the taser is the safest way to get the job done, this was not one of them. Way to compare what this kid did, to someone holding a gun to someones head. I know you feel like you have to stick up for your own, it's what cops do and it's what I would do if I was a cop. However IMO this was lazy police work.

I would expect nothing less. It was not necessary and the cops backing the cops doesn't make it so.

Just because you did it, doesn't make that right either. Now the police won't be chasing them in Philly. I think that speaks volumes.

Yep, just like I've seen hundreds of times before. All of them resolved without the use of a taser. Oh, I also see a cop really pissed that he couldn't catch the kid. EDIT: I wonder if the Phillies think it was necessary? LINK