RunTheBall
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
He can sling it.
In almost every throw Sam is climbing the pocket before he unleashes. I think with our DTs that’s going to be a problem and we are going to see a lot of back foot throws. I take every team seriously but if Buffalo comes out and plays the same gameplan we did against the Raiders, we win easily. Instead of Crosby you chip Young on most plays. Cook should be able to get the edge on these guys, their LBs aren’t anything to write home about. Their secondary is suspect as well so if we can establish the running game the play action shots will be there all day.
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13 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Bernard is proving that MLB is a devalued position. In pure talent the drop off from Edmunds to him is massive, and yet the defense as a whole is performing just as well if not better than last year.
Bernard seems to have good instincts which Tremaine never developed. Benard is shooting the correct gaps like Tremaine never did and I was a big Edmunds fan, just not 18 million big
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Your yearly reminder that there is no statistical data to back up the "trap game" myth. It's only a fan anxiety reaction.
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43 minutes ago, Airseven said:
How? Commanders are one of the worst teams in the league. Dolphins will be a fair barometer to see just how far the Bills have fallen behind them.Speaking of which, your team is on in 50 minutes. Shouldn’t you be pre gaming with the other Fins fans?
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I hate NE and their bandwagon fans (I’m in RI, there’s been near ZERO Pats* talk the last 3 years) with the heat of a thousand suns, but it’s better for us if Miami loses. So, I will hold my nose and hope the Hoodie dials up something where they sack Tua in the closing minutes and seal a 6-3 victory
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WHERE ARE ALL THE BERNARD HATERS??
I liked Tremaine but at 18 million IDK if he even makes the plays Bernard made today. If you can keep Bernard clean, he can shoot gaps and dropped Jacobs a couple times. It’s only game 2 but he’s holding his own and even making some plays.
This is the second straight game Dorsey called a good game, this time Josh stuck to the script. I’d still like to see him under center more with play action (like the long Kincaid pass) and that 4th down call sucked but overall he’s shown some growth. Yeah I know it was the Raiders D but we needed a game like this to get on track and winning in dominant fashion doesn’t suck either.
Overall, exactly what this team needed especially Josh. Hopefully they can keep it rolling against Washington and then get a good test against Miami.
Go Bills!
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7 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Why are you quoting me? I've repeatedly said Allen played terribly and lost the game. But my point was that it's one freaking game and that the piling on here on 2BD and everywhere else is over the top and way to harsh. So are you saying that the criticism of Allen in 2BD has only been "slightly negative"? Or that what we're seeing on 2BD is just "slight criticism"?
Judas Priest you said exactly what I've been saying yet you call me out on it?
My bad dude. 78 was responding to me so I wrongly assumed your comment was meant towards me.
I'm a huge Josh supporter. I just feel strongly he unnecessarily went into Josh Mode and at year 6 we shouldn't be seeing that very often. I fully expect a bounce back
I rarely ciritcise him so clearly misinterpreted your meaning. Thanks for the clarification.
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19 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
They're surprisingly sparse on the details to your question given the intensity of their criticism of Allen. My guess is that they know deep down that Allen is more then likely to rebound big time and and go on a run of great games. The sad thing is if he does some of these posters are going to be disappointed.
JFC does any slight criticism of Josh need to be predicated with a discourse on how great we think he is?
Ok here’s mine so next time so just put this in front of any slightly negative comment I may have on Josh’s performance in the future
I think Josh is by far the most talented QB we’ve had including Jim Kelly
Josh is a top 3 QB in the league
Josh has been asked to do way too much and has carried this team for years
Josh has the potential to be a HOF QB
There. Now that being said, Josh blew that game and all he had to do was play small ball catch with open receivers to win it. He’s in year 6 now, these types of games should be few an far between. I fully expect him to bounce back, I hope he finally “gets it” and takes what the D gives him when doing that will result in a W. There are going to be times we need Josh to be Super Josh to win a game and just put the team on his shoulders and wing it. This wasn’t one of those games. All he needed to do was stay patient. It’s ok to say that.
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34 minutes ago, appoo said:
You want Josh throwing that ball to Davis on that play.
Look at the picture from Kubiaks article. Even thought it was taken with a potato you can clearly see Diggs in the middle and Knox in the flat wide open for the first while Davis is covered. How can you say Davis was the right read in this play? Come on.
56 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:How do you fix it then? Do you fire Dorsey? Do you run the ball heavy to keep it out of Josh’s hand? Do you think Josh has run his course and trade him?
Allen has to fix it. He has it in him. He’s gotta trust the game plan and play within the script for the most part. He has to have the maturity to recognize exactly what defenses are taking away from him and baiting him to do and take what’s given. I’ve been a huge Dorsey skeptic. Dorsey was not the problem this time - just watch the All 22, there are guys open flat/short/sometimes intermediate all game. In the second half Josh passed those options up to go deep. I love Allen, he’s going to go off script sometimes and that’s what makes him great. But, when he doesn’t have to, when all he has to do is play small ball making easy throws that were there to win the game he has to have to self discipline to stay patient and take it.
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5 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
One thing that stood out to me was Allen's decision not to run for the 1st down on the play he launched the deep INT. IMO this is a problem of coaching. In their zeal to cut down on Allen's runs the Bill's brain trust risks compromising one of Allen's great gifts. I want Allen taking that run EVERY time. The coaches need to reinforce that in that situation Allen should tuck the ball and head down the sideline.
This sounds nice in theory but you have at least 5 examples of Josh initiating contact, not sliding, not getting out of bounds when he could, and leaping 5 yards short of the first down line into 2 players. So if he’s going to run and throw his body all over the field on all those plays why on the one play where he’s got a wide open field in front of him to gallop do you think he’s all of a sudden thinking about what the coaches told him? Naa, he got Hero Ball on the brain and wanted to chuck it deep. It’s that simple.
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4 hours ago, appoo said:
The one forgivable "decision" on an INT was the 3rd one. In that play Bills ran a smash concept (3 guys running routes to the sideline at 3 different levels), Sauce dipped into the low zone coverage in, leaving I think Davis to run that corner route - with leverage - on Jordan Whitehead. He read that perfectly, but that was really bad ball placement which led to that INT. Shouldn't even have been risky throw even, because that ball goes up the sideline, and instead Josh left that behind Davis. Thats a throw I'm confident he puts in a decent spot 9 out of 10.
What are you talking about? Diggs and Knox were WIDE OPEN for the first down. There was no reason to make that throw to Davis who ran his typical crap route where his cut had about as much angle as a rainbow. It didn’t help he threw it behind him but it was absolutely the wrong decision. So was the first, so was the second, so was the fumble. Enough excuse making for Josh he blew it and needs to get his head in the game ASAP.
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3 minutes ago, Since1981 said:
I don’t like that she and others pretend to be “reporters” or anything close to objective. Their roles feel icky to me.
Which is exactly why a paid propagandist of the Bills should be keeping her mouth shut about any players but especially the #2 guy on the team. I mean her job is to toe the company line and promote whatever story lines the Bills media department wants to get out there.
Talking crap about your #2 star player, whether it was in jest or not, is a bad look for her and the franchise
It’s not misogynistic to say an employee of the Bills caught on tape talking smack about a player is an idiot. I’d say the same thing about Chris Brown or Sal C but Sal wouldn’t say a negative word about the Bills if you had a gun to his head.
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All you white knights riding to Maddy’s defense can contribute to her Go Fund Me when she’s on the unemployment line.
I have no idea if she’s good or bad because I don’t listen to Bills Propaganda Reporters (including Sal C).
What I do know is that if you are a paid member of a franchise’s media team you DO NOT trash the star players even in jest.
Why? Because some idiot will record it and post it on the internet and YOU become a key player in yet another franchise distraction.
That’s a fireable offense. Period. Has nothing to do with how ridiculous the whole situation is (because it’s really nothing). It’s the sheer idiocy of putting yourself and the team in a bad light when you are PAID by the team.
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Didn't think he'd respond. Goodbye Maddy!
(Somone else can embed the tweet better haha)
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Josh threw a horrible ball on that out route to Davis that got picked but if Gabe rounded out that cut any more it would have been a sphere
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Bad look for a bad reporter when you are on the team payroll and talking sht about a star player even if it’s in jest. I don’t think Stef could care less about Mandy Glab’s opinion on anything and he won’t acknowledge this little hiccup. Why anyone listens to any Bills reporter paid by the team (Sal C included he’s the worst) is beyond me. They are paid propagandists and we get nothing insightful from them.
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I’ve been a Dorsey skeptic but he wasn’t the problem. Dorsey called a good game against the defense that has been giving Josh fits since halfway through last year - the 2 high safety with quarters/palms coverage. Rush 4, 7 in coverage, rush contained with your eye out for Josh to run.
The way to beat this is with an effective running game and throws to the flats/slants/middle until it forces them to bring a safety down or change the coverage.
Do any of you guys watch the All-22? You don’t have to be a film guru to see what was going on especially when you take the emotion out of it.
The running game was meh especially between the tackles and you can chalk that up to one of the best D-lines we will see. The outside gap/zones worked better getting James to the edge. The only criticism I have for Dorsey is he could have stuck to the outside runs a little more.
Other than that, if you watch the All-22, you can see guys were open in the short/intermediate area all game long. Josh took them in the beginning then for whatever reason just flat out ignored them in the second half. Again, you don’t have to be a film guru to see Knox/Diggs/Kincaid open for obvious first downs when Josh chose to go elsewhere.
I asked Marino via Subtxt if he could tell from the film if this was Josh just making bad decisions or if he was losing his field vision which would be much more problematic. His response was that in his opinion it was very obvious Josh saw the open shorter routes and just chose to play hero ball. He said with the 3 different views he could get a good look at where Josh was looking and he just wasn’t pulling the trigger in the early part of the progressions. I’d be much more concerned if this were a “reading the D/lack of vision” problem.
The only positive out of this is that it’s fixable. Now we are going on over half a season with Josh talking the talk but not transferring that into the game. Maybe, just maybe this game was humbling enough for Josh to start playing within the game script and listening to his coaches. Make no mistake, Josh wears his heart on his sleeve and he knows he cost the team this game. That can’t sit well. I just hope it’s enough to get him to settle down and start listening to his coaches because the plays were there to be made he just chose not to make them.
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Just win baby
In terms of the Bills, it solves everything
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2 minutes ago, appoo said:
Right, need to see what Terry says about this. Because there's no context that makes this acceptable, unless he's quoting someone else and making a point about how terrible that statement is.
IT has to be a flat out denial.
You can not be an owner of a team where 80% of the playing employees are African, and have those racist sentiments in your soul
Why are you so sure he said it?
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Until this is corroborated by someone other than a guy hoping to make bank on a discrimination law suit, I’ll withhold judgement. Terry very well be a closet racist, I don’t think so and hope not, but you don’t destroy a man’s reputation based on one guy’s statement who has a huge financial incentive for people to believe its true.
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Josh’s issues are 100% mental. The question is, can he get get back to a more calm mindset during games and if so how long will that take?
He was almost in a manic state out there. Throwing his body around, scrambling out of clean pockets, heaving backyard bombs to the other team.
I’m not a huge Dorsey fan, but his gameplan was not the problem. That’s EXACTLY how you attack a 2 deep shell with quarters or palm coverage. You hit the flats/slants/middle and run the ball (effectively) until the safeties start to creep down or they switch out of it. That’s football 101!
Mahomes had the exact same problem and worked his way through it. Josh either doesn’t trust Dorsey’s gameplan or simply doesn’t have the patience to see it through. If it’s the latter we are in deep sht because every team is going to play him the same way until he demonstrates he’s mastered it.
I think he has the football intelligence to turn it around. He knows he let his team down big time. Hopefully that humbles him enough to stop going off script when he doesn’t need to and start trusting the game plans that are developed.
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Eh, ask me after Miami where I think Josh’s head is at.
I’ll tell you though, for the first time in years I had no confidence in Josh when he got the ball in OT.
Josh was: 1) Inaccurate 2) Made poor decisions 3) Didn’t protect himself 4) Flustered in the pocket resulting in being 5) a turnover machine
That’s about as poor a QB performance as you can put on. But, it’s only game 1 of a long season. Josh has earned a chance to right the ship. I think he will.
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What’s the main Bears message board? I was trying to creep on some Edmunds talk but every site I tried was absolutely dead. Like Pats* fans without Brady dead
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That was a horrible DPI but won’t matter, Giants are going to get waxed. Dabol coming down to earth and they should have used some of that Daniel Jones money to pay an O-line. Bunch of turnstiles out there
The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report
in The Stadium Wall
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No one is obsessed with Edmunds. It’s perfectly natural to wonder if the team made the correct decision in letting a 1st round draft pick who we traded up for walk after being a 5 year starter. I LOVED the Edmunds pick. I thought we had our starting MLB for a decade at least. After a couple years I started to wonder if he would ever develop instincts. During his 5th year, he played better but it still wasn’t instinctual. Still, I was convinced McBean were going to sign him to an extension and I couldn’t have been more wrong. I’m thrilled we didn’t pay him 18 million, he’s not worth that and he’s never going to live up to it. Guys don’t just “get it” after 5 years, they either have it or they don’t. Edmunds is an above average LB because of his elite physical and athletic traits but has horrible instincts. He’s being replaced so far by guy half his size who has already made more splash plays and is getting paid about 16 million less. Now the book hasn’t been written on Bernard yet, and I’d say 80% of this board wrote him off after one game of his rookie year, but so far has anyone noticed a lack of Edmunds? I’d say no. I wish Tremaine the best, I wish he worked out here, but right now it looks like McBeane made the correct call not only by letting him walk but by giving Bernard the opportunity to play MLB. Time will tell.