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GEORGE KORDA: UT’s Critical Race Collective’s five tenets – and the questions they raise.
1. Centrality of Race and Racism in Society: CRT asserts that racism is a central component of American life.
2. Challenge to Dominant Ideology: CRT challenges the claims of neutrality, objectivity, colorblindness, and meritocracy in society.
3. Centrality of Experiential Knowledge: CRT asserts that the experiential knowledge of people of color is appropriate, legitimate, and an integral part to analyzing and understanding racial inequality.
4. Interdisciplinary Perspective: CRT challenges ahistoricism and the unidisciplinary focuses of most analyses and insists that race and racism be placed in both a contemporary and historical context using interdisciplinary methods.
5. Commitment to Social Justice: CRT is a framework that is committed to a social justice agenda to eliminate all forms of subordination of people.
More at the link.
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Don't Ban CRT. Expose It.
There's a liberal way to fight illiberalism. And it's beginning to work.
Andrew Sullivan
FTA:
How on earth could merely teaching students about the history of racism and its pervasiveness in the United States provoke such a fuss? No wonder Charles Blow is mystified. But don’t worry. The MSM have a ready explanation: the GOP needs an inflammatory issue to rile their racist base, and so this entire foofaraw is really just an astro-turfed, ginned-up partisan gambit about nothing. The MSM get particular pleasure in ridiculing parents who use the term “critical race theory” as shorthand for things that just, well, make them uncomfortable — when the parents obviously have no idea what CRT really is.
When pushed to describe it themselves, elite journalists refer to the legal theories Derrick Bell came up with, in the 1970s — obscure, esoteric and nothing really to do with high-school teaching. “If your kid is learning CRT, your kid is in law/grad school,” snarked one. Marc Lamont Hill even tried to pull off some strained references to Gramsci to prove his Marxian intellectual cred, and to condescend to his opponents.
This rubric achieves several things at once. It denies that there is anything really radical or new about CRT; it flatters the half-educated; it blames the controversy entirely on Republican opportunism; and it urges all fair-minded people to defend intellectual freedom and racial sensitivity against these ugly white supremacists.
What could be more convenient? NBC News “reporter”, Brandy Zadrozny, even decried parents’ attempts to discover through FOIA requests just what their children
are being taught — and argued this week that, “for longtime ultra conservative activists, CRT is the opportunity of a lifetime.” CRT, she explains, is not a threat at all, and there is no proof that it is even being taught. It’s “just a catch-all term repurposed as a conservative boogeyman.” She goes on: “it harnesses pushback against 2020’s racial justice movement, covid denialism, and depends on a base still energized by Trump and misinformation, looking for political power.”
I’m sure the MSM will continue to push this narrative indefinitely. They are still insisting, after all, that “white supremacy” is behind hateful attacks on Asian-Americans, and that soaring murder rates are purely a function of Covid19. And you can see why: this dismissive take is extremely helpful in avoiding what is actually happening. It diverts attention from the stories and leaks and documents that keep popping up all over the place about extraordinary indoctrination sessions that have become mandatory for children as early as kindergarten.
And no, 6-year-olds are not being taught Derrick Bell — or forced to read Judith Butler, or God help them, Kimberlé Crenshaw. Of course they aren’t — and I don’t know anyone who says they are.
But they are being taught popularized terms, new words, and a whole new epistemology that is directly downstream of academic critical theory. Ibram X. Kendi even has an AntiRacist Baby Picture Book so you can indoctrinate your child into the evil of whiteness as soon as she or he can gurgle. It’s a little hard to argue that CRT is not interested in indoctrinating kids when its chief proponent in the US has a kiddy book on the market.
The goal of education of children this young is to cement the notion at the most formative age that America is at its core an oppressive racist system uniquely designed to exploit, harm, abuse, and even kill the non-white. This can be conveyed in easy terms, by training kids to see themselves first and foremost as racial avatars, and by inculcating in them a sense of their destiny as members of the oppressed or oppressor classes in the zero-sum struggle for power that is American society in 2021.
Let me draw an analogy to another kind of education. In Catholic kindergarten, kids are not taught Aquinas, the debates about the Trinity in the early church, or the intricacies of transubstantiation. But they are taught that they were created by God, in his image, and that they should love one another. All of this is part of Catholicism. But the former is abstract and esoteric; the latter is the practical, downstream application of these truths — accessible to children, to direct their morality. As they grow up, they will learn more. But it is all part of the same system of faith and thought. Its words and values resonate throughout it all: love, compassion, sin, forgiveness, dignity, God, heaven.
Similarly with CRT, impenetrable academic discourse at the elite level is translated to child-friendly truisms, with the same aim — to change behavior. And so the notion that the most important thing about a child is that she is white, and this makes her part of an oppressive system purposely designed to hurt her new friend, who is black, is how this comes out in an actual real-life scenario. And she has to account for her indelible “whiteness”, just as Catholic kids have to account for their sins. CRT has its own words and values, and they are instilled from the beginning: racism, systems, intersectionality, hegemony, oppression, whiteness, privilege, cisgender, and “doing the work,” as CRT convert Dr. Jill Biden would say.
To give an example from an elementary school in California, a teacher in a math class, asked all students to create an “identity map,” listing their race, class, gender, religion, family structure, and other characteristics. The teacher explained that the students live in a “dominant culture” of “white, middle class, cisgender, educated, able-bodied, Christian, English speaker[s],” who, according to the lesson, “created and maintained” this culture in order “to hold power and stay in power.”
The class of 8-year-olds then learned from a book helpfully titled “This Is An Antiracist Book” how some parts of their identity could be oppressive or oppressed. No, they were not introduced to Foucault or Marcuse. But they, and countless others across the country, especially in the past year, are being trained to see the world through a neo-Marxian lens of identity group power-struggle, even in a math class.
I don’t know what planet you have to be on to be shocked that when a child reports this kind of thing back to her parents, the parents want to know what on earth is going on. This is not something only “ultra-conservative” activists would react to, as NBC News’ woke reporters seem to believe.
This is not teaching about critical race theory; it is teaching in critical race theory. And it is compulsory and often hidden from parents.
It contradicts the core foundations of our liberal society; and is presented not as one truth to be contrasted with others, but as the truth, the basis on which all other truths are built. That’s why teaching based on CRT will make children see themselves racially from the get-go, why it will separate them into different racial groups, why it will compel white kids to internalize their complicity in evil, tell black kids that all their troubles are a function of white people, banish objective measurements of success to avoid stigmatizing failure, and treat children of different races differently in a classically racist hierarchy.
And this is why — crucially — it will suppress any other way of seeing the world — because any other way, by definition, is merely perpetuating oppression. As Kendi constantly reminds us, it is either/or. An antiracist cannot exist with a liberalism that perpetuates racism. And it’s always the liberalism that has to go.
And this has always been the point. There is something so disingenuous about critical theorists both arguing that they are revealing the real truth about the world in order to change it, and then claiming that they’re just offering an alternative take of history within a liberal context. You can see this intellectually dishonest bait-and-switch in the 1619 Project. It claims something truly radical — that the real founding of America was in 1619 because the core meaning of America is white
supremacy, not liberal democracy — and then, when called on it, turns around and says no, silly, we’re just engaging in a thought-experiment to explain how racism has affected all of us, and to provoke debate. Well: which is it? In theory, they tell you it is all compatible with liberalism; in practice, they prove and believe the opposite.
MUCH MORE at the link: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/dont-ban-crt-expose-it-2d9
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COLORADO: Aurora teacher pledges to teach critical race theory, like it or not.
“Common ground doesn’t mean meeting in the middle.The only common ground that exists is what exists in leftist beliefs. Because conservative ‘common ground’ leaves out people who are poor, BIPOC, *****, with disabilities, etc. But OUR common ground includes the liberation for all.”
As Rebellion Against Critical Race Theory Grows, Left Turns to Denial, Dismissal.
Americans are waking up to the threat posed by critical race theory, which is often presented behind a cloak of secrecy and the banner of social justice, and across the country, they are now fighting back.
The Biden administration may have reversed former President Donald Trump’s ban on critical race theory and so-called anti-racist training in government agencies, but Americans from a diverse set of backgrounds are now making this a national fight, which is dramatically playing out on the local and state level.
What has been the response from the left to this popular rebellion against critical race theory?
Denial and dismissal.
When asked about debates over critical race theory taking place at school board meetings in Northern Virginia, former Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, earlier this month called it a “right-wing conspiracy” made up by Republicans.
On Sunday, NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd said that resistance to critical race theory was “manufactured,” and one of his guests, Cornell Belcher, a Democratic Party strategist, said it was nothing more than a “tool … in the racial tribal bogeyman’s toolbox,” concocted for electoral purposes.
Others on the left have said that critical race theory has been too broadly defined by opponents and legislatures that want to remove it from public institutions. It’s just an insignificant school issue, they insist: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Critical race theory is bad, you say? We’ve never heard of it, but stop trying to stop it, fascist!
These dismissive rebukes miss the point that many Americans reject the broad range of woke racial ideology that is broadly being promoted by activists, media, corporations, bureaucrats, and even the military to destructive effect.
Has the left bothered to narrowly define “white supremacy”—or for that matter, racism, which has been attributed to apple pie, bird names, and the air, among other things?
Of course not.
The fact is, critical race theory has given rise to a host of terrible ideas and policies that have gone by many names.
Information about what critical race theory and various other “anti-racism” programs are really about has been exposed by Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and many others. Its influence in schools has also been revealed by the fact that many parents have directly witnessed it as a result of the COVID-19 lockdowns and the resulting move to virtual education at home.
More at the link: https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/06/21/as-rebellion-against-critical-race-theory-grows-left-turns-to-denial-dismissal
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U.S. Catholic Bishops Aren’t Playing Politics With Communion, Biden Is
Should President Joe Biden, a professing Catholic, be allowed to receive Holy Communion despite his ongoing support for abortion?
Of course not. The entire question is a fake controversy ginned up by corporate media hell-bent on smearing Catholic bishops and faithful Catholics everywhere. Those feigning outrage over the idea that Biden would be denied communion are really just outraged by the church’s moral teaching on abortion, and want to change it. For them, as for Biden himself, this isn’t about religion but politics.
The rather narrow question of whether Biden should be allowed to receive communion is not at all complex or unclear. But Biden’s defenders in the press, and even some inside the episcopacy, are making it seem as though it were.
All Catholics know, or should know, that they are not supposed to present themselves for communion if they are objectively in a state of mortal sin. Supporting abortion — or otherwise dissenting from or promoting contrary positions to the Catholic Church’s fundamental dogmatic teaching — puts one in a state of mortal sin. Therefore, politicians who support abortion shouldn’t present themselves for communion, period.
You don’t have to take my word for it. Back in 2004, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who later became Pope Benedict XVI, wrote a memo entitled, “Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion: General Principles.” The letter was prompted by the presidential candidacy of then-Sen. John Kerry, a Catholic like Biden who insisted that his ongoing, unrepentant support for abortion shouldn’t bar him from taking communion.
To clear things up, Ratzinger sent a letter to the now-disgraced Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, at the time the head of a task force of U.S. bishops studying the question, and Bishop Wilton Gregory, then president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Ratzinger wrote:
Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.
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It is rather Biden who has politicized the Eucharist by his ongoing defiance of Catholic teaching on this matter. The media have also politicized the issue by framing it in political rather than moral terms, and so have the dozens of U.S. bishops who have refused to take a clear stand for what they know is right.
Indeed, if it weren’t for political considerations, Friday’s vote by the bishops would have been unanimous. If it weren’t for politics, there would be no need to draft a non-binding document to be approved at a later date.
Such weak half-measures would be unnecessary, because the bishops would say, with one voice, what every one of them knows to be true: Joe Biden should not receive communion. Politics, not the Catholic Church’s moral teaching, prevents them from doing so. Politics is what motivates Wilton Gregory, now archbishop of Washington, D.C., to say he will continue to give the Eucharist to Biden, no matter what the USCCB’s document says.
Biden’s contention that this is a “private matter” (a claim repeated Monday by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki) is nonsense. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, a politician’s stance on abortion is never a private matter, any more than a politician’s vote on abortion-related legislation is a private matter.
Like every single American bishop, Biden knows that. He also knows he shouldn’t present himself for communion. So does every Catholic child. Cardinal Francis Arinze, who was prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments from 2002 to 2008, said in a speech in 2007 that he is often asked if a politician who supports abortion should receive Holy Communion:
Do you really need a cardinal from the Vatican to answer that? Get the children for first communion and say to them, somebody votes for the killing of unborn babies, and says, I voted for that, I will vote for that every time and these babies are killed, not one or two, but in millions, and that person says I am a practicing Catholic, should that person receive communion next Sunday? The children for first communion will answer that at the drop of a hat. You don’t need a cardinal to answer that.
So let’s dispense with the ridiculous fiction that anyone, from Biden to the bishops to liberal Catholic columnists in the corporate press, is the least bit confused about any of this. They’re not confused. They know what the Catholic Church teaches, and they’d like to change it. It’s as simple as that.
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Grassroots fighting CRT in the classroom is not big evil scary conservative groups or politicians … it’s parents and teachers of all races and political ideals who do NOT want this garbage being taught to their children.
Imagine if instead of pretending these parents and teachers are too stupid to understand CRT the proponents of this indoctrination actually listened to them.
Arguments like Sarah’s are simply meant to obfuscate what is going on. History can be taught accurately without using this lens.
In fact removing it encourages critical thinking.
I hate the shorthand to “CRT” because the lens is used on all characteristics to include Sex, sexual preference, gender identity, immigration status, religion, disability & even body morphology. It teaches children the very things that help them succeed like, time management, showing their work, getting the right answer in math, are a grand conspiracy of their Historical oppressors to keep them down. It is absurd, destructive, and crippling. And antithetical to the approach of great men & women who straddle history with a foot in their childhood when America was at its worst through our progression to being much more equal and fair than the vast majority nations in history.
It ignores the success of Thomas Sowell, Bob Woodward, Carol Swain, Condi Rice, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Glenn Loury & countless others who lived through the scourge of legal segregation to become iconic figures in the American story. Critical theories ignore these icons & so does the left because they disprove the thesis.
People like Sarah are either lying about critical theory or think it is confined to how we teach history. They either need to educate themselves or stop hiding the ball. Because on the ground, the grassroots movement is parents across the political spectrum of all races that object to the lens that is being used to teach our children to judge others motives, thinking & worth by their observable characteristics. As a nation we decided this was wrong in 1964 & have worked to continue to improve ever since.
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The riot at the Capitol on January 6 was, for the left, license to do everything from enact politics to open the door for even more divisive narratives meant to make their opponents look like attempted murderers and traitors to the nation. The GOP made it clear that while the actions on January 6 by those who ran amuck inside the capitol were wrong, the left’s telling of events was incredibly sensationalist.
Now, more Republicans are pushing back against the Democrat narrative that the January 6 event was an “insurrection” as the left likes to claim.
According to The Hill, almost two dozen Republican House members voted against giving Congressional Gold Medals to police officers over the fact that the legislation describes those at the Capitol that day as “insurrectionists.” Among them was Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie who put a brick wall up in front of the Democrat-driven narrative.
“They were protesting. And I don’t approve of the way they protested, but it wasn’t an insurrection,” said Massie.
Texas’s Louie Gohmert, who also voted against the legislation, went so far as to submit his own version of the legislation that rewards the officers who served that day but rids it of much of the one-sided language that reeks more of politics than it does fact, noting that it “serves as a tribute to our officers rather than using them as political pawns.”
“There was an undisciplined mob; there were some rioters and some who committed acts of vandalism,” said Georgia Rep. Andrew Clyde.
“Even calling it an insurrection, it wasn’t,” said Wisconsin Rep. Ron Johnson during an interview with Fox’s “Ingraham Angle.” “You know, I condemned the breach. I condemned the violence, but to say there were thousands of armed insurrectionists breaching the Capitol intent on overthrowing the government is just simply false narrative.”
“‘Insurrection’ is a term of art defined in the law, and it involves taking over a country, a shadow government, taking the TV stations over, and having some plan on what you are going to do when you finally take power. Clearly, this is not that,” Castor said.
To be sure, Republicans and Democrats viewed what happened as wrong for the most part, but to hear the left tell it, white supremacist, right-wing forces planned to infiltrate the Capitol and depose the government.
Many have speculated that this constant attempt at labeling the January 6 events as sensationalist is Democrats trying to keep a point of political leverage that allows them to set narratives and craft legislation. It allows them to paint themselves as both victims and heroes and their opponents as the epitome of anti-Americanism.
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Progressives' cri de coeur: "Where is the President?" on HR1
Ah, politics. Where else but in America can the GOP’s “Where is Joe Biden?” campaign before the election get embraced by progressives after it? The Democrats’ tendentious and partisan voting-reform act will get shredded in the Senate this afternoon, which everyone has known for weeks, but progressives want to know why Biden hasn’t lifted a finger to fight for it.
Politico reports that progressive ire might shift from Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin to the White House in the aftermath:
Progressives are steaming that President JOE BIDEN didn’t use his bully pulpit to try to move the needle on the bill — or strike a deal allowing Congress to block GOP legislatures from curbing access to voting. They want to know how Democratic leaders can claim in one breath that democracy is in jeopardy — and in the next let this legislation crash and burn.
Indivisible founder EZRA LEVIN went on a tear about this Monday, declaring in a Twitter thread: “I have reached my WTF moment with Biden on this.” The progressive grassroots leader said BARACK OBAMA “did a live debate with House GOP on the ACA,” BILL CLINTON “gave 18 speeches on NAFTA and deputized [AL] GORE to debate ROSS PEROT on it,” and DONALD TRUMP and GEORGE W. BUSH “were all tax cuts all the time.”
“Where is the president?” he asked. “Is saving democracy a priority for this Administration or not? I don’t want to see some tepid public statement. We need to see the President and VP using the full force of their bully pulpit to lead.”
Ahem. Did progressives even notice how Biden and Kamala Harris campaigned for their jobs last year? Biden restricted himself to tightly controlled appearances with very few people in attendance, and Harris didn’t get out much more than that. At the time, we assumed this was a political version of Mohammed Ali’s “Rope-a-Dope,” forcing the media to cover Trump rather than Biden. Strategy or not, it succeeded.
More at the link: https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/06/22/progressives-cri-de-coeur-where-is-the-president-on-hr1-n398189
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Donald Trump, Bill Barr Score Another Big Victory in the Lafayette Park Clearing Controversy
Just today, in another big victory for Trump and Barr, a federal judge ruled that the plaintiffs (ACLU, BLM, etc) in various lawsuits against Trump, Barr, and other former administration officials over the incident could not provide sufficient evidence that there was a conspiracy to deny protesters their First Amendment rights. The judge also ruled that Trump and Barr “are entitled to qualified immunity as the plaintiffs have not plausibly alleged a violation of law”:
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On 6/20/2021 at 10:14 PM, BillStime said:
BINGO
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14 minutes ago, TH3 said:
Where is the cheating?
Learn to read.
Back to the thread. Today's the day the democrat party's power grab goes down.
Worried CBS Frets: What to Do If Dem Voting Power Grab Is Doomed?
by Scott Whitlock
Monday marked the 21st day of June, a month that Joe Biden hoped would see the passage of his extreme voting rights power grab, as well as a huge infrastructure bill. So far, neither has happened and CBS This Morning journalists began to fret about what to do next. In fact, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki seemed to indicate that the so-called “For the People” act was doomed. Co-host Anthony Mason asked Psaki if the White House had an alternative strategy: “Jen, as Kris Van Cleave mentioned, a vote is expected as early as Tuesday.
Progressives Are Livid at Kyrsten Sinema Because She Understands Long-Term Consequences
Democrats Will Be Displeased to Learn How the Public (Especially Democrat Voters) View Voter ID
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Washington Post is condemned for video urging Americans to set up 'white accountability groups' and force themselves into 'a period of deep shame' over their skin color
by Peter Belfiore
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We had to check the date on the tweet to be sure it was current, taking into account all we’ve learned about Fauci recently. We’d thought all of the praise pieces had been done last year, but we guess they’re still coming.
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2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
We are now into the 6th month of President Biden's term. At what point do you stop obsessing over our past president? Come on, man.
And again, if Trump made promises he didn't fulfill then its OK for President Biden to not fulfill his promises too?
Put yourself in his (sorry) position.
There is nothing about the current administration that can be remotely praised.
Even the ones who voted for Biden/Harris know that they are not doing much for the country.
Bringing up Trump over and over is all he's got.
One just wishes he was more intelligent about it, the same dumb crap repeated ad nauseam
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GOODER AND HARDER: California’s $100 Million Marijuana Bailout Tells You All You Need to Know about Its Government.
I bring up [the Johnny Depp film] Blow in light of news that California’s legislature approved a $100-million plan to boost California’s struggling legal marijuana industry.
As the Los Angeles Times reports, the industry is in serious trouble. The growth of licensed cannabis shops has been dismal and far below state projections. Just 1,086 retail and delivery firms have been permitted to date—about 82 percent lower than the 6,000 cannabis shops the government anticipated.
How is this possible? Well, shortly after California legalized pot in 2016, lawmakers began burdening the industry with so many regulations—particularly myriad compliance orders associated with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA)—that businesses are drowning under paperwork, fees, and delays.
“Many cannabis growers, retailers and manufacturers have struggled to make the transition from a provisional, temporary license to a permanent one renewed on an annual basis — a process that requires a costly, complicated and time-consuming review of the negative environmental effects involved in a business and a plan for reducing those harms,” the Times reports.
Who on earth could have predicted this development?
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They're trying to make it part of curriculum in every school from K through Uni, but somehow YOU'RE obsessed. That's rich.
Why Critical Race Theory Isn't About Just Teaching Social Studies
By Joe Cunningham
They do not deny this, largely because they cannot deny it with any intellectual honesty. The point of Critical Race Theory is to divide white and black into oppressor and oppressed. It creates a class divide that is much greater than what we actually see in reality. The theory does not match the world.
As far as academic theories go, the first red flag is the fact that it has its own built-in counter for anyone who would challenge it: You are privileged, and therefore cannot see it. That is not a fair response to challenge, nor does it stand up in any meaningful rhetorical discussion. But, this isn’t about any civilized rhetorical discussion. It’s about division.
Contrary to what the activists are saying right now, the history of racial strife in America was taught long before CRT became an educational tool (it originated as a legal theory and only recently transitioned into an educational application). For decades, we have taught in our classrooms that so much of American history is problematic in terms of how our country has treated minority groups, and that hasn’t stopped simply because some states are passing laws to ban CRT in our districts and schools.
But, you would not know that just listening to the people losing their minds that parents might expect to have a say in how their taxpayer dollars are being spent to divide their kids from one another. Late last week and over the weekend, there were many who lamented that Juneteenth was a federal holiday we can’t teach about in school… except that the bills garnering the most public attention (like in Florida and Texas) specifically stated that such issues have to be discussed in history classrooms.
Take Texas, for example. Juneteenth has been a recognized holiday in that state for decades, because the day originated in Texas. Moreover, the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for the state’s education system include this in seventh grade social studies:
(Several examples of teaching plans highlighting slavery given, for Middle school and High school)
Critical Race Theory proponents want you to think that the only way this history gets taught in schools is through the adoption of their worldview, but indoctrinating with any particular worldview runs counter to how education should operate. The point of education is to teach a student to think, not tell them how to think. And it damn sure isn’t about teaching kids how to think of themselves and others solely through the lens of racial identity.
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"Most of the Protesters Were White": Native American Businesses See Their Pipeline Equipment Destroyed by Protesters
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2021/06/22/most-of-the-protesters-were-white-native-american-businesses-see-their-pipeline-equipment-destroyed-by-protesters-n400643