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  1. 36 minutes ago, The Final Word said:

    I realize it is not the proper protocol to start a new thread during a game but I felt compelled to start this thread to ensure those Bills fans suffering from Allen fatigue and calling Beane an idiot for drafting Allen.  Allen is the quarterback of the future period.  If you recall, he was number one on our draft board for months prior to the draft. He possesses all of the tangibles but requires additional work with his footwork.  Will be corrected this year.  Although Josh started today’s games which traditionally means he would be starting the first game.  Many novices would obviously jump to this conclusion and it most cases would be warranted but not in this case.  Those close to the happenings at obd though realize the rationale for McDermott decision for today’s game.  The plan was and still is not to start Allen at quarterback day 1.  I knew before the start of action today, Peterman will be our starting quarterback for the first game and THAT IS THE FINAL WORD.   PS I will try to provide the site with expert clarifications and happenings as the season progresses

    Dunkrirk? ... Is that you?

  2. 3 minutes ago, GG said:

     

    Utter horsecrap. 

     

    There's no distinction between socialism and democratic socialism.  The only practical difference would be that the next elected parties would decide on how to pilfer private resources.

     

    Socialism is evil, pure and simple, because it stifles humanity under a false pretense of equality.

    The same can be said of capitalism too, pure and evil. Only those who have money win. That's why we need to meet in the middle, and Democratic socialism, as you say doesn't exist, is socialism's differ of moving to the middle.

  3. 4 minutes ago, Foxx said:

    the two parties are nothing more than two wings of the same bird of prey. it is the bird in the middle one must keep their eye on, for you are the prey. the two wings are only meant to keep the bird aloft. when is the last time they actually represented the will of their constituency? the bird of prey has a plan and you are mere chattel that affords their means to an end. the more they can divide you up into little fractions of the same divide, the better for them. they are quite aware that if there was a united populace they wouldn't stand a chance.

     

    isn't the Donald proof that it doesn't matter who wants what? the machine just keeps churning away. best not to get caught up in it, else you'll get chewed up and spit out. the best option is to just let them continue doing whatever they think they are doing and just create the kind of system we all want outside of their elitist idiom. one day the (m)asses will awake to understand what is really going on here. all the better to have something in place for them to turn to when that arises.

    Foxx, this is the best representation of the political spectrum we live in.   I understand that, but many do not. It's why I will talk about the ideologies and not which party I belong to. 

  4. Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

     

    The context is her platform. Which is socialist. Not liberal. Not Progressive. Avowed socialist. 

     

    That's a problem for your argument that the party is centrist - the leadership is pushing the party well to the left. Majority of Americans, including democrats, are not socialist and realize socialism is INCOMPATIBLE with our constitution. 

     

    #WalkAway isn't about saying all democrats are socialists. It's about democrats realizing their party has abandoned not only their centrist roots, but the country itself. It's a big loser in November. 

    You know that Democratic socialism is different from socialism. But why not make the real arguement? Because it kills your point that it's not okay with our constitution.

     

    I fully disagree that the Democratic socialist agenda is a loser overall. Hell we employ a ton of the ideals already but will not acknowledge that we benefit from them. (Roads, Police, Schools, etc.).  

     

    This is the same arguement that had been made in the past, and we certainly aren't going to fix it in a forum.

    8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

    why bother paying attention to what the man actually said about the movement?

     

    they can't bother to give 90 seconds to learn anything

     

     

    The initial 7 tweets used to justify the movement in this thread all DIRECTLY point to the Democratic party, not liberalism. Just because the founder is saying that HE is leaving for a different reason does not translate down to the masses who are leaving the PARTY.

  5. 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

     

    Of course it doesn't encapsulate all views on the left... just those of the party's leadership:

     

     

    ...Which is the problem.

    How is this a problem? Just because some people won some primaries?  And "she represents the future of our party"

     

    Without further context of that statement we don't know if it was an age, a politics or a lack of money statement.  

  6. 3 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

     

    Hell, I'll double down.  The Republican party hasn't gone far enough.  

     

    Everything the Democrats fight for in the name of "progress," the Republicans end up fighting to conserve 10-20 years later.  No more.  A large portion of American people are sick and tired of being betrayed by those who would call themselves our betters.  Unfettered mass immigration, social programs designed to be handcuffs rather than help, kissing the boots of corporations and calling it the "free market," bending over on every social issue from trannies to abortion to guns in the name of "bipartisanship," etc. etc.  Enough is enough.  A reactionary movement is long overdue.  Trump has demonstrated this by his election alone.

     

    Also, your notion that the Democrats haven't moved further to the left is incredibly silly.  Imagine your average 2018 Democrat waking up in 1980 suddenly.  How far to the left of the average person are they?

    Levi,

     

    I challenge you to justify this average person statement.  Just like I won't be able to justify that the average person is more liberal than you believe, you won't justify your belief that an average person is conservative. It is a matter of viewpoint at this juncture.

     

    If the large mass you speak of are privileged people of any color, I can understand that. It's just that those people are the majority anymore.  It's not people that have made this country more difficult to have a decent life in. It's politics and the two party system forcing you into making a choice. Until this is seen we will never move forward.

     

    Hey I agree with many of your statements but I still believe that Democrats have stayed closer to the center than is believed.  Imagine looking at the political ideologies on a line, with the center directly in the middle of the screen. Place the Dems at the extreme left and Repubs extreme right. Now move the Repubs right on that line what happens?  The center moves left, even though it doesn't move at all. I think this is what has happened with the identity of center. It seems further to the left when you move right.

    19 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

     

    The founder of the movement has categorically said he's walking away from being a LIBERAL. Not a Democrat. A LIBERAL.

     

    Not in the initial story. That is the basis of this. It consistently mixed liberal with Democrat, they are not one in the same.

  7. 3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

     

    Just curious, did you read any of the posts on the # walkaway or watch the video, or pay attention to any of the recent events? I find it hard to believe you came to that conclusion if you did.

    I read the initial article which continuously mixed left and Democratic party as if they were the exact same thing. Claiming that the party is one of hate and segregation is different than claiming the ideology is that way. The ideas that the initial article point to conflict at great length with the basis of progressivism or *gasp* socialism.  The party on the other hand is still closer to center, so it is unsurprising that the ideals of a person who supports a platform left of center would not want to be a part of it. These are my observations. Hey we all view things differently.

     

    As to the other recent events, I don't have cable, not do I watch the American news. Will I take some of the journalism that has been put out there with a grain of salt, yes, yes I will. (We could possibly even say that if it's trumpeted on this forum, it comes from a conservative news source). In that part of this I am deficient, but my understanding is that #walkaway is about the party.  

     

    I must state again, the party does NOT encapsulate all the views of the left. I find myself telling people this a lot. Just like the Republicans do not encapsulate all of the views of the right.

     

  8. As much as many of the Right in this forum think that "walking away" was moving from left to right, I believe that the walk away movement is actually moving further left.

     

    The Democrats, and Republicans for many years, were mostly centrist parties. This is why the government worked for a while. There would be working together and creating bipartisan bills. The Republicans party had to cater to the extremism of the Tea Party to continue it's existence (I believe), pushing it further Right, while the Democrats did not take the progressive platforms of the Occupy and Bernie movements(see presidential election 2008, presidential primary, Dem chair nominee, etc.).

     

    I feel there will be great debate over my thoughts that the Republican Party moved more conservative and Democrats stayed closer to center.  Some of you know my political stance, but I'm attempting to not allow that to bias my observations.

  9. What I find most amusing over this is the NFL coverage of the games, except on Veteran's Day weekend, the anthems are NOT shown.

     

    That said, those who choose to work for the NFL must abide by the working conditions set forth in the PRIVATE workplace. The First Amendment rights that some claim these employees have do not in fact exist at a private place of employment.  I know that this has been said multiple times in this thread, but that's how it is.  

     

    Work all that, I still have no issue with what the players choose to do. If they kneel, they kneel. To me I don't find that unpatriotic/disgraceful.  That's their choice, and they have to deal with the repercussions.  Also, they are subject to the terms and conditions of their employer.

  10. I haven't looked up the stats at the average amount of touchdowns per game for QB, but this video really proved the point that you could only expect 1 a game.  Yes there are some where he threw more than one, but it was not consistent.

     

    If I interject my opinion into this, I feel this is a reason why many fans are happy to see him go. 

  11. 19 hours ago, row_33 said:

     

    the argument goes both ways.

     

     

    I agree the argument goes both ways.  That's when you know that the set up is in between the extremes.

     

    With that said, I perceive that we are currently moving towards a business extreme, and that the market should correct itself without obvious interference from lawmakers (again, both ways).

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  12. 2 hours ago, row_33 said:

     

    Pensions were a luxury of the post-WW2 generation that cannot be reasonably afforded by the next generation

     

     

    Oh come on. That's such a silly argument. Corporate greed is why the funding of private sector pensions have failed. Why is it that executive pay has increased so significantly, while workers true wages have stagnated?  

     

    All employees should be able to unionize because they are the only things that honestly keeps management in check.

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