Cynical

And the peanut gallery speaks ... 1. If you do not want to read what I have to say, feel free not to. 2. The message board does contain a feature called "ignore". Feel free to use it on the posters you find offensive and do not agree with your personal beliefs. 3. If you still find it impossible in removing all the "negativity", feel free to start your own message board with the other poster. In between the Bills can do no wrong posts, the both of you can argue about who is more optimistic. Yeah, kind of like reading how Edwards is cool, collected, and a true warrior, Whitner has so much talent he can play any position, Jauron is a victim of venomous fate, Brandon knows exactly what he is doing, and Poz is the second coming of Dick Butkus. Those kind of posts accomplish a whole lot, too. Especially when team generates another losing record. Must be because Wilson is such a great owner ... .

Guess what, until you figure out the concept of when and how July 2008, August 2008, and September 2008 fall into a time line, we cannot go any further.

You mean this piece: Oh, yeah there's proof the Bills would have redone Peters contract in 2008.

Jesus ... I even quoted this statement in my reply. Did you even bother to read past the first line of my reply? Once again. Notice how Brandon does NOT give a time frame in that quote. Look at the date of your article: July 25th. As I stated in my initial reply (if you had bothered to read all of it), later in year, as in AFTER JULY 25th, it was reported and even discussed on this board, the Bills never had any intentions of redoing Peters contract in 2008. They would be open to the possibility of redoing his contract in 2009. Read all of it before you hit reply.

Feel free to start your own message board where you can dictate only "positive" people are allowed to post. Should be a blast to read.

There is nothing in those stories that disputes what I said. Notice there is no time frame given in Brandon's quotes. It was reported later in the year (and even discussed on this board) the Bills had no intention of redoing his contract last year. They would, however, be willing to discuss a new contract next (this) year.

Peters is not making it "uncomfortable", he's forcing their hand. It's not like the Bills have a plethora of talented Off lineman to choose from to fill in the different holes. If that was the case, then the Peters hold out would be "uncomfortable". Keeping your fantasies aside, whoever Peters gets traded to will redo his contract. Just do not be surprised if it ends up being somewhat close to what the Bills are offering.

I would say having played the second easiest schedule in the NFL may have more to do with the ranking, more than the Stroud signing. So did the 2006 draft after the 2006 season. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. By fumbling the situation? The Bills organization admitted they had no intention of redoing Peters contract last year regardless if he showed up for OTAs, etc .... Hitting the kool aid pretty hard this morning I see. Bills have two choices: overpay for Peters or move him. And the Bills have expressed a desire to do neither one if they can help it. Explain to me again who has the leverage? Because from my POV, it sure looks like Peters is forcing the Bills hand.

I agree. At least Royal could block, he just never developed into the pass catcher they hoped he would. The other two a** clowns ... <shudder>

Lonnie (*^*%&*%)*&%)*^(&+)(&(^*&^*&%^^)*+(*)*%@#$@(&*)+(*)U(*^*&^*)T*)&(*&B_(B_(^B&_*^!!!!!!!! Johnson I think the only other TE to even come close to that bad would be Reuben "Can't"

I think that's what he's trying to say, but he said this: Last I checked, "top" QB's were being paid some serious coin, and he did not attach any other qualifiers to that statement, like "assuming he plays well ...".

Let me get this straight. And please clarify if I am missing something ... You do NOT want to pay the left hand today "x" amount of money, but you would be willing to pay the right hand tomorrow the same "x" amount of money. THEN ... you chastise those who want to pay the left hand today, because they do not understand what the future consequences are when they give "x" amount of money to someone. That is some screwed up logic ...

I had no problem with your POV right up until this point. Seriously. The Ravens had a ROOKIE HC, a ROOKIE QB, something like 16 guys on IR and they made the AFC championship game. But for Buffalo to acquire 7 wins was "nothing short of amazing". Bulls**t. Inept coaching has a much bigger negative impact than many people want to admit. Good players can overcome a head coaches bad decision. BUT, even great players cannot overcome inept coaching. Every Jauron defenders favorite excuse .... those damn injuries. Other teams can overcome those things, just never Jauron coached teams.

If it looks like desperation, smells like desperation ...

Other than Owens, what other "talented, tall receivers" did the Bills acquire this off season?

Whitner and Edwards need to get together and look up the word "hypocrite".

My God, what a novel concept. A NFL head coach making his players perform better. Who woulda thunk it ... Are you sure? As you yourself said, Shanahan did have that ability to make an "average player look really good".

Isn't this same McMichael that had a case of the dropsies while playing in Miami? IIRC, Dolphin fans were not upset when he left.

What's even scarier is there are people that think drafting a pass rushing DE is a priority, like somehow 1 defensive player will overcome that excuse for an offense.

If we are going to be ridiculous, Trent had to win the game against Cleveland. How did that work out? Trent had to win the game against SF? How did that work out? Oh ... wait he had to leave the game because he pulled his pinkie finger. He had to win against the Dolphins the following week. Wait. He was still out. He had to win against the Jets the week after that. Wait. He was still out.

Who's in the hall?

It is the NFL, and there is only one measuring stick: wins. The rest of what you said counts for nothing if the end result is a loss.

That probably is the best option. Feed Trent enough rope to either hang himself or to lasso the offense under control. Adjust as needed. I guess my biggest concern is with the goobers that make up the coaching staff. I have no confidence in them to properly analyze the situation. Heck, I think they would struggle game planning a game of Go Fish.

Okay, maybe I missed something. Other than him running the occasional no huddle/2 minute offense, when has Trent been in full command of the play calling?